Episode 419 Discussion: 2nd Nov 2013

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Episode 419 Discussion: 2nd Nov 2013

Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

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  4. And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

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Originally posted by: river123

TRP Charts: Like the week before, TRPs did not go down - another week of increasing trend (am going to ignore the fact that they are only very marginal increases) 😃. The sad news is, they only went up only 2% increase (TVTs went to 4,305 from 4,230 the week prior.) TRPs were 2.1. MB's position is #15, same as the week before.


Most of the top 15 shows showed an increase in TRPs over the prior week. MB's increase was the smallest increase. Don't have too much to say this week - I'm in a wait and watch mode. I will say - for the near future, even if the show is able to move beyond the current roadblock, TRPs will probably still float in the range of the 2.4 range (see trends below for last 16 weeks) - unless there is a real game changing feel good track coming up.


Weekly TRP historical trends are below (note: data converted from TVTs to TRPs so that we could have consistent comparison points. This is a rough inexact conversion and may not match to the second decimal place with other estimates due to minor differences in conversion methodology)


Note: Data converted from TVTs to TRPs from week 31 onwards. Does not take into consideration impact of adding new markets at various points. Size of these markets, viewing patterns, demographics, level of digitization etc. of those markets would impact TRPs. Also, hard to judge IPL's exact impact.


The two charts below show: 1) Top 15 shows TRPs and 2) TRP increase/drop for those shows, compared to the week prior. The blue bars on the second chart are the ones that did better, the red are the ones that did worse, and the no bars are the ones that were the same.




Note: this is a rough analysis. Please feel free to point out any holes.



Daily TRPs:

Originally posted by: leelaa9

MEIEJ - Week 43 - 21st to 26th October 2013:-

Madhubala: 4305 (4230 previous week)

TVT 4305 = TRP 2.15 = TRP 2.1.

TRP daily breakdown credit to Aakash and synopses credit to Meenu.😊

Week 43 Madhubala Breakdown

Saturday, 19th Oct - Episode set primarily in the studio, and focused on the shoot. Karan-Anamika sensual sequence, Madhu is uncomfortable with onlookers watching intimate scene being shot. She hesitates and flounders multiple times. RK the consummate professional tries to put her at ease. Mehul yells at Madhu, and calls pack-up in frustration. Simmy's mother drinks the coffee. Precap: Pabho plans to recruit Radha and destroy the Radha-Madhu mother-daughter relationship to break Madhu.

2.07 - Monday, 21st Oct - Pabho-machination filled episode. Simmy's mother has reaction to drinking the spiked coffee. RK tells Madhu Mehul was wrong to yell at her, and he'll talk to him (but not about changing the scene). Mehul tells RK Madhu has to focus on just being the heroine. Radha tells Madhu to be producer's wife first and then heroine. Pabho plans to destroy mother-daughter relationship between Radha and Madhu, eavesdrops on RK conversation, and decides to crash the studio with a family visit. Madhu expresses her reservations to RK. RK persuades Madhu to do the scene. Romantic RM moment. Shoot proceeds smoothly next day. Precap: Appalled Radha, and Dipali and Pabho watching RM leaning in for a kiss at studio.
2.18 - Tuesday, 22nd Oct - RM "intimate" scene witnessed by horrified Radha who storms out. Dips takes pictures of the scene. Radha questions Madhu and gives her a lecture on morality, wife's role and duty etc. Intimate pictures in the newspapers with tawdry headlines. At studio, Madhu sees newspaper, is upset and runs home to placate Radha. Precap: Mehul is upset with RK for letting his heroine walk off. RK laying down the line with Madhu - he will not let the film suffer.
2.34 - Wednesday, 23rd Oct - Mehul commands RK to bring back his heroine, and threatens to quit if Madhu doesn't focus on the film. Pabho instigates Radha, who falls for it and cold-shoulders Madhu. RK and Madhu clash, witnessed by Pabho-Dips. RM differences are unresolved overnight. Radha denies Madhu her karva chauth sargi, so instead Madhu eats Radha-prepared leftovers from refrigerator. RK does not want Madhu to keep karva chauth fast. Madhu declares that she is fasting. Precap: Dips tells Pabho that news from the set is RK is trying to prevent Madhu from keeping the fast.
2.23 - Thursday, 24th Oct - Madhu promises Radha she will be back for karva chauth puja. Madhu puts on temporary mehndi and shows RK. RK furious, changes the scene to a dinner scene. RK-Madhu have a huge argument. Madhu vows to do the scene. She pretends to eat, buts spits out food later in private. Precap: On set, RK cancels pack-up and calls for a double shift. Mehul asks Madhu if she's okay with it.
2.38 - Friday, 25th Oct - Madhu spits the food out in private, unbenownst to RK. Another RM argument. RK tells her that he's called for a double shift. Madhu plots to do half the puja at home, and then break the fast at the studio. Pabho rubs it in to Radha about Madhu's absence for karva chauth. Madhu arrives, participates in karva chauth puja. RK arrives, furious with Madhu, and in front of everyone, lets it out that Madhu has not kept the fast. No precap.
2.24 - Saturday, 26th Oct - Madhu keeps quiet in face of teary Radha's shock at Madhu already having breaking the vrat. At studio, Mehul helps Madhu engineer scene where Karan breaks Anamika's fast ritually, and disparages RK to Madhu. RK is furious at the fast-breaking scene, and accuses Madhu of using the scene to even the scores, shuts off the 'Baaho ke darmiyaa' song, is upset at her insistence of her identity being only as his wife. No precap.


Edited by -MAS- - 11 years ago
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I have zilch interesting or analytical to say on today's episode, except that I found it hysterically funny. And of course, disgustingly archaic.
Rant Alert: I cannot help it, there is no redeeming factor in this episode. RK-Madhu symbolise a contemporary couple, vastly differing in sensibilities but united in their devotion for each other. We know that, and we can accept any rubbish that is thrown at us. But what the hell is happening? This is clearly falling lower and lower. Not one track is completed, every two days a new angle, and alarmingly, each new angle is more regressive than the previous one. How can they keep on saying 'phooti huyi kismet' about Madhu or any girl??? Downright disgusting!! The leads are mercilessly butchered because they know the serial runs on their chemistry and the few fans who are left watch for them.

I'm writing here only because if the creatives are stalking, they should get feedback. Just because I have access to a computer does not mean I am online audience, I switch on the Tv every night to watch the tripe that is being dished out in MBEIEJ. And as far as I can see, everybody I know who used to follow the serial has stopped long ago. I am still sputtering along, in fits and starts.

I'm going to stop my rant right now.

Some hilarious asides:
  • Pabhoo's nivaaran was disturbed half way. because her intentions are evil, I was hoping for it to happen. Of course she blames Madhu, but at least the panditji yelled 'ghor anarth' at her, to her👏
  • My mind was wandering when Madhu took on the task...tie your hair, tie your saree, the material is flimsy, inflammable etc etc😆. Of course, i knew she would complete the nivaaran.
  • Sikky worrying about RK's turning detective. Looks like these guys are khamakha worried about RK...they haven't been briefed yet, RK is no longer the 'udte chidiya ke par ginne wala'. 😆
  • RK wakes up, and asks for Madhu. What i found bizarre were Rji's expressions...what is she doing to do now? SHe has no hold over RK, she has burnt her bridges with Madhu. What is the point of her being around RK, crying ?? Madhu arrested? Rji has failed her son yet again. WHen oh when will these characters get their due? We keep talking about Madhu's paying for Sultan, RK paying for his misdeeds, what about Dipali, Sikky, Kji, AB??
Edited by Soundarya22 - 11 years ago
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I kind of liked today's epi but this does not mean that I can watch this crap everyday .

Panoti Pabbo chali aangaro par chalne apne coal se bhi kale dil ke saath and obviously woh task nahi hua and the blame is put on Madhu.

Aur hamari Madhu ne apne "saaf" dil ke saath kiya aur kaam ho bhi gaya .
While she was walking on that coal I was like ..ladki apne baal aur saree toh zara band .

Good part RK mia is out of the stupid and dumb danger .

Will write the rest later gotta go n see my Indian Cricket team ;)
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And people A very happy Diwali to everyone in this thread .

Lets not get sad and depressed with all of this on a festival coz at the end of the day its just a show :)
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A very very happy Diwali to all of u
Have a great year

Diwali is a Festival of Lights
Hope it fills your life with light also

As for this serial
Hope is all we all have


And hope this Diwali brings light in our rishbala life also

I really don't want to write anything depressing and negative for next three days Atleast

Again a very happy Diwali
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A very appy Diwali to all of you🤗
It's unbelievable that today , just out of habit, i finished my chores , just on time, to catch a glimpse of MB and I was maha upset , as if the roof will come crashing down, bec. i skipped the first 5 mins !


Thankfully, like Madhu, my threat was considered & RK opened his eyes ! so this is the BIG twist which they were talking about sometime back ! but unlike the unwedding, there were no tweets from the CV's, no news articles, nothing, just a normal routine kind of twist !


so what else are they planning to show? that Pabo is a pishachini? soon she will be doing some witchcraft on Madhu? or MB will turn into a super natural thriller and Radha will be finding antidote of Madhu...hhhmmm where is rahukaal ? and where is vishkamini? (see..I'm ITNA bada fan of VD ke I remember his wife's cameo role)


therez a limit to the bakwas being shown but CV's don't have any upper limit i guess...Madhu bani savitri & brought satyavan (RK) back from death...so the next time RK falls sick or Madhu falls sick, they will do some kaala jaadu & cure them right?


and looks like they didn't have time to shoot Pabo arresting Madhu scenes..it's a big secret u c...TG for small mercies, at least Bittuji was a witness to Bhabhiji's pagalpan and he can tell RK later on...but wait? "kisi ne FIR kara di" so RK should not know that it's his Pabbo !


*Yawns* well done CV's ! All the best for your suicidal mission..but itna toh bata do humari kya galti thi !
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Happy Diwali, everyone.🤗
And a huge thanks to Meenu for holding this together with the most detailed update and review everyday and the weekly analysis, to Charu for keeping her first-page review a reassuring norm till date, and - in alphabetical order (it's haphazard still, sorry😕) - 4EVRoptimist, aan-rish, amrithas, Ankita, anitarani, armummy,
arshisfan, bcbs_srk, blacklambo, Cardio, Chakku, ClosetRomantic, dramacrazy12, Drashti13, dvs_smiRK, ennishet, i-me-myself, loveurkmadhu, LSPD, MarathiMulgi, masan, mayamagic, minu_8, moniluvskinshuk, raj80, rajjji, sangeet6690, soni28, Soundarya, Sree, Stephanie, Subashni, taraka2005, valar_morghulis, war-is-peace, Zoya, and all the new and old members of the EDT who kept the thread going even when episodes have been uninspiring.
Still hoping that the series may become interesting again and Shri, AA, Ananya, Angeena, Aritri, pnars, Zoe and so many of the EDTians will want to write on it regularly again.
Warm wishes to all the named and everyone else as well for happiness, health and prosperity in the coming year.🤗



Edited by leelaa9 - 11 years ago
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Happy Diwali to all of you!
Hoping to see HR in the show next week if that rumour is true...


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Happy Diwali everyone :)

Todays episode was ok..
The high point of the episode today for me was Madhu's devotion towards RK..! :)
I know it was soo cliche.. but I expected far worse! :)
I guess today's episode reminded me of the 2012 October episodes! :)

and RK looks for his Biwi as soon as he wakes up! God.. adorable or what :D ❤️

I love the fact that RK still managed to keep his wit intact regardless that he was bed ridden and half awake! :D ahaha! That made me smile :)

I seriously hope this partial paralysis thing wont be dragged for long! It hurts big time to see great characters just go down the drain! :( and great is an understatement! but considering the current situation, we are gonna have to make do with just 'Great' -.-

and the precap.. why do I have the feeling RK doesn't really show up?? :( I hope he will though! :(

and yesss... I'm missing the 'Hum Hai Deewane' 's biiig time :(


xxx


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