Jalaal-Jodha: Mazhab nahin sikhaata.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hey,

Okay, I for one, have no clear idea what to say about today's episode . I mean, the Jalaal Versus Ulema portion. Religion is something very personal and one's relationship with God is even more personal. I don't want to comment on who was right and who wasn't. Because I didn't understand any argument at all. I am a Hindu by birth . I have equal respect for Hinduism, Islam., Christianity,Sikhism, Buddhism and all other religions - as long as they are routes to reach that one supreme power - Bhagwaan, Allah. Yeeshu, Budhh, Parmatma, Babaji - no matter what you call HIM. I pray at temples, masjids, churches , gurudwaras and everywhere the feeling is the same. I don't think bowing my head at a masjid or a church makes me any less of a Hindu. I see and feel the same Almighty everywhere irrespective of what priests , maulvis or monks say.

Religion is supposed to give you a faith that defines your way of life and marks your route to unite with God. The moment it teaches you that God is compartmentalized and makes you believe that another human-being is less of a human-being because he/she belongs to another faith , its religion no more. It becomes something else, totally.

So, all that "Who owns Islam" and how " Hinduism influence is a sin to Allah' jazz in today's episode was extremely disturbing to me. Worst being that a Muslim has to justify his relationship with Allah and a Hindu is being forced to convert to Islam. Am sorry, but religious fundamentalism makes me sick in the stomach and just reminds me why the world is such a colossal bloodshed.

Apart from that I have just two things to say about today's episode:

1. Jodha's response to 'what happened last night' with Jalaal has been put into layers by the creatives. She was furious and devastated at the onset but Jalaal's cold and riddle response has switched her off - and now, until she comes to know the truth , she has to keep on oscillating between various possibilities. She is looking as though her flame has died out.

2. The whole Jalaal versus Ulema scene was a BOTCHED UP JOB. Firstly, the cameraman , the editors and the creative on set and edit rooms need to be pulled up. Ashwini was not present during the shoot of the scene - they have used a body double whose face you can see so clearly during the entry. Ashwini has shot for this scene separately - and that is why you only have her closes. Hence, all reactions of Rajat, Paridhi are mismatched and wrong. Its a very very juvenile job at the edits. The post production creative head should be hung upside down by Ekta for such a big mistake. Even trainees don't do such mistakes.

That's it for today, from my side. 😊

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well put.

The episode left me reeling and sick to the stomach.

Poor Jodha 😭😭 Two colossal blows !
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Posted: 11 years ago
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All I can say is that the episode was not at all up to the mark, disjointed & utterly boring for ME.

CVs & the editors need to wake up now.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sonia_1

Well put.


The episode left me reeling and sick to the stomach.

Poor Jodha 😭😭 Two colossal blows !


Thanks. 😃...Jodha maybe many things but she deserved to know what happened between her and Jalaal. I know the creatives are stretching it to use it as a layer between JJ , but i understand her turmoil as a woman. Especially because she does not remember anything.

Secondly, the Ulema or anyone has no right to tell someone to forcibly convert their faith. Your religion is a part of your roots and ripping it is equal to losing a whole chunk of your identity. Jalaal should put a stop to this.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Absolutely agree with what you said about religion. As a Sikh, I've learned that different religions are merely different paths to the same destination. That's all there is to it. Disrespecting anyone is disrespecting God's child. Everyone has the light of God in them; you just have to love God enough to see it.

I haven't seen the episode yet, but I too feel uncomfortable with the religion issue. I only hope it's solved in a positive way.

As for what happened to Jodha, I knew we wouldn't find out right away. Seems to me that today's episode was just to prolong the suspense.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: BornThisWay

All I can say is that the episode was not at all up to the mark, disjointed & utterly boring for ME.


CVs & the editors need to wake up now.


Thank you. The screenplay was disjointed because one script deals with one subject at a time. I understand that the Ulema and religious fundamentalism had to come in , but i just find it sickening. Totally.

Editors and the creative need to be spanked for that totally botched second half. 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I didn't understand the epi MKM...I mean kaha se kaha gaya ??🤔
what was that exactly ?
can u clear my doubt ? Had they done IT ?? itni jaldi wo scene khatam hogaya ke pata hi nahi chala did they have "it" or not ? kya kya sochke rakkha tha maine...I think kisiko nahi pata kya hua tha...only Jalal knows...but he will never reveal it agar kuch na hua ho toh...baad mein googly phekega🤪
The maulvi scene was expected...well, as a Muslim I know "a Muslim cannot bow down (shizdah) to anything/anyone but Allah" and if he does, it is considered as "shirak"...but one can rectify it...Maulvis were exaggerating unnecessarily...🥱
I think Jallu will find a way out and Jodha might not have to convert to Islam😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Vicky what do u mean her flame has dried out??😭😭.
I know she is devastated and disturbed because she has no recollection of what happened to her and Jalal the previous night but has my baby lose her spunk??Jalal gave her no direct answers to her questions.She almost begged him to tell her he didnt break his promise.I was really happy she didnt start to lambast him left to right but i like my fiery Jodha😭😭.
I just dnt want her to feel like she was violated and used for fulfilling any sexual desires for Jalal.
The fact that this woman's dignity is more important than her life i juts dnt want to see her lose face and bow to anyone now thus reducing her to some door mat.
I always wanted Jodha to act more mature but dnt want her character to be assassinated or because of any emotional turmoil twist her into someone unrecognisable.
I know for a fact that when a womn has intercourse for the first time she loses blood and she does feel pain.How can Jodha not know if she has been touched??She has to feel different and since it would have been her first time she would have felt a little soar.😕
Oh well that is only my 21st century mind talking so cant judge her there.
As for the rest id the episode i am dissatisfied with how fast they went into this religion issue.I hate when they discontinue tracks to incorporate others.I would have liked to see how both Jodha and Jalal would have dealt with this situation respectively.Now its straight into another problem for Jo.
I heard she does accept Islam but only after Salim was born and after she died she was buried according to Islamic rites.Oh well only time will tell but two massive blows in one day Jodha baby stay strong!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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nice post
same feeling here also .
i felt for jo today the same thing happened in mjht with mayank n nupur n till date never clarify it ...i dont want hear they have to clarify it...i want my old jo back..stubborn ziddi fiery nonsensical anything u call it.. i want that back she still look sick...😒
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: preet_pal320

Absolutely agree with what you said about religion. As a Sikh, I've learned that different religions are merely different paths to the same destination. That's all there is to it. Disrespecting anyone is disrespecting God's child. Everyone has the light of God in them; you just have to love God enough to see it.

I haven't seen the episode yet, but I too feel uncomfortable with the religion issue. I only hope it's solved in a positive way.

As for what happened to Jodha, I knew we wouldn't find out right away. Seems to me that today's episode was just to prolong the suspense.


Thank you. You can totally skip today's episode. Disjointed screenplay, worth-slapping editing job and all that 'I own God' disturbia.

Jodha is in middle of nowhere - a mysterious night spent with Jalaal and this pressure to convert to Islam. Too much to take in one day.

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