Likely sequence of events after PM S**...see pg 3 as well

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charminggenie

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Posted: 12 years ago

#31

@Dreamygal301- A big thanks for all your sensible posts!

I have repeatedly stressed that its not the fact that a marriage happens between Satya and Antara but the bigger issue here is how does Antara, a daddy's girl forgive a man who was involved with her father's death. A girl may forgive but to love and live with a man who was responsible for this tragedy is a very big deal. The pain and torture Raghu would go remembering his role will way worse than seeing her with Satya. His gilt , helpless and self-loathing would drive him crazy.

As far as Rantara are concerned, she might hate me but at the same time cannot love another man. Whatever reason she marry Satya , it would be short-lived one. The high is her return to Kashmir, as a broken girl who Raghu tries to rebuild.

I feel Satya's character would be terminated at a very high point, that will not only change Rantara's lives but also DM's. She would go all crazy on them , thus opening a new chapter in their life.

Mamaji seems slimy and kind of shady , I think he might be the one forcing the marriage here.

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Dreamygal301

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: charminggenie
@Dreamygal301- A big thanks for all your sensible posts! Your Welcome Charminggenie. Most of it's common sense and extrapolated from the show itself. 😊

I have repeatedly stressed that its not the fact that a marriage happens between Satya and Antara but the bigger issue here is how does Antara, a daddy's girl forgive a man who was involved with her father's death - exactly so! can you imagine the tug of war inside her? she would start hating herself, thinking she had betrayed her father and then there's Raghu, she can't kill the love that took root in her though she will try her damn best. A girl may forgive but to love and live with a man who was responsible for this tragedy is a very big deal - So glad you understand. The pain and torture Raghu would go remembering his role will way worse than seeing her with Satya. His gilt , helpless and self-loathing would drive him crazy. Yes!!👏👏 I mean in some ways, he would be glad she is out of his sphere because his self loathing will be immense...as I was trying to explain earlier this is why he is dreaming of killing her with a bomb..all a metaphor for how he thinks he is too bad for her, that being with him will kill her...his mind associating the bomb that killed her father, will kill her as well...He must be wondering how on earth did he get so duped...so the next time unknowingly he might end up killing his beloved Ms Kaul, better she is far and safe rather than close and in danger...😭.

As far as Rantara are concerned, she might hate me but at the same time cannot love another man. Whatever reason she marry Satya , it would be short-lived one. The high is her return to Kashmir, as a broken girl who Raghu tries to rebuild. Again yes, marriage to Satya does not matter nor does it count. In their love this is a blip, not even worth the effort to analyse because each understand the other too well. Raghu will never ever blame her, in his anger he will say a lot but most of it will be stemming from his own self loathing, but in his heart of heart he will not blame her because he already found himself guilty and accepting of any punishment that comes his way. I'm not sure they will go to Kashmir, I've written about it in another thread titled 'DDEJ promos', I would be interested in getting your POV on that.

I feel Satya's character would be terminated at a very high point, that will not only change Rantara's lives but also DM's. She would go all crazy on them , thus opening a new chapter in their life. Possibly, the life of a villain in shows dealing with romance is not long lived. DM, if she stays, would be the main antagonist but so far she has failed to impress me and if she starts kitchen politics with Antara after the wedding (whichever man she marries) I will never ever take DM seriously!😆

Mamaji seems slimy and kind of shady , I think he might be the one forcing the marriage here. Yes I too was wondering who would apply pressure (and yes, it goes without saying that there will be some pressure!😆) and so his sudden appearance clinched it for me though as her Mama he had to be here for the wedding. Interestingly, I wonder how her mother will be dealt with - the poor woman must wonder why on earth isn't her husband turning up for his daughter's wedding. I think maybe her mother's condition will also apply that extra pressure...maybe Satya will say he will get the best doctor... whatever, though it will be sad and annoying the story is moving ahead and for that I applaud it. It's been feeling somewhat static in terms of the story or then too sudden and abrupt without the necessary emotion being conveyed to make me believe in it...

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punnubaby

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Posted: 12 years ago

#33

Originally posted by: Dreamygal301

agree that she wont let Saattu touch her but that Sattu wud leave no chance to make raghu jealous ...he will ask anatara to sleep in his room only ...we know that though antu and sattu wud sleep on different places in the same room ...but imagine how terrible raghu wud feel to see sattu closing the door of his room on his face and doing the pretentions that now antara is his wify ...she is his property so now he got the licence to b with her under the same roof...
that wud b so painful for raghu 😭😭

Hi Sita,

It's natural for a married couple to sleep in the same room ...whether in the same bed is a different story.

I think Antu would be too shattered, too dazed and numb to even think anything through. Off course Satya will do everything he can to show his claim on Antu now in front of Raghu.

And Raghu, like it or not, will in some ways have to pay for his part in this mess. I'm talking about his life choices, which led to him going to Kashmir in the first place.

They will both be in pain, coming from two different ends, but never fear they will soon be close to one another. Their love is too intense and deep - they have seen one another at their worst and still fell in love. It shows a sense of security and emotional trust...for a while Antu will lose this, and I can't blame her.

Put yourself in her place, it will feel like she has to choose between her father and Raghu without feeling like she is betraying one or the other. Parental loyalty is very strong so she will take a step back...then as time goes, the pain lessens she will remember her pacifist father's ideology (love and forgiveness as well as giving people a second chance) and most importantly that though Raghu has violence in his life he did not go to Kashmir to kill her father, he was in fact used. That would be the most important factor in her decision to trust Raghu once more.

Off course nasty Satya will also make this a lot easier. He is a creep, she had seen him at his worst...

...I still can't think how she agrees to the marriage, so I'm guessing her Mother's mental condition and possibly pressure from Mama will make her go through it - she is financially dependent on them after all.

But the biggest thought will be to have revenge on Raghu and what better way to do it than by marrying Satya? another thing that had belonged to Raghunath Naik is now once more in Satya's hand. I hope before it's too late she understands what Raghu said, that once Satya gets it in his hand he then breaks it. You can bet anything that Raghu will be on alert to make sure his Ms Kaul does not suffer anymore than she already has.

One thing, I'm not liking this dialogue writer...I miss the old one and his lively crackling words...😕...it's too flat and bland, whereas the old one used a lot of subtext and often it felt like there was two conversation going on at the same time!

I don know Im stil havin hopes..bt the nly prob is then Satya n Ruksana both the characters wd bcm irrelevant!!

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Dreamygal301

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: punnubaby

Nce post dreamygal!! Bt one thing I don agree is that Anatara wd think of revenge!! Antara knows Raghu in n out!! She mite hate him,bt she very wl knows Raghu cn never hurt an innocent soul!! She wl surely understand that he ws been used!! I don expect her nt to hate him,bt surely she wont think of a revenge!! If she misunderstands him completely n thinks of a revenge,this love story wd loose al its purity n beauty!! how well can we know someone? not very much. Every one of us has a hidden part, you can spend a lifetime with someone and then find you don't know them. When Antara finds out Raghu's part in her father's death (at this moment we're not sure she will find out now for the wedding) she will feel hate. It's only natural, and the other side of pain is to deliver revenge to the person responsible, to make them feel what you are feeling. Raghu never had anyone in his life who loved him for himself except Antara. So when I say revenge, I meant she would take herself away from his life. That is revenge. BUT this does not mean they didn't truly love one another, in fact the stronger the hate and need to give back pain the stronger the love. A love is pure when every different facet of a character has been accepted and understood. She knows he is a gunda, used to talking with his fists more than his words and violence has ruled his life. She knows where he came from and how it shaped him as the man she fell in love with. She will remember all this when she finds out about her father, and she will say 'how did I get so blinded by this goon? how many others has he killed as well?'...only time and perhaps opening communication with Raghu will she things differently.

Second thing...good point Satya ones he gets wat belongs to Raghu breaks it..Whether Antara realises that or nt Raghu knows it very well!! Probably Raghu understands Satya better than DM. He very well knows that if Anatara marries Satya her life is nt gonna b in safe hands!! Do u realy think he wl let the marriage happen?? As far as I hv understood the character Raghunath Naik he will cut himself into pieces b4 letting his Ms.Kaul's life go into wrong hands permanently!! I don know sumwer I hv hopes that Satya-Anatara marriage wd b planned up,n I wont b surprised if Raghu kidnaps Anatara on the weddin date against her wish!! Nt bcz he cnt c her been sumone elses,bt he cnt c her in pain,n since he knows Satya too well,he wd know the consequences of their marriage!! Raghu's dialogues r still echoin in my ears which he said yest... first one.'.Main isse tere liye kabhi nahi chodunga' .Second one 'Ye to sirf shuruvat hai aur main vada karta hoon is bat ko anjam main hi pahuchavunga' I too have been wondering where Raghu will be when Satya marries Antu...I too mentioned he might just take her away from the mandaap at the last moment in pg 4, I think.. You forget DM. She has a more of a pull on Raghu, one of obligation and duty that he cannot forget nor turn a blind eye to. What if Satya and DM have him somewhere else? or stop him from entering...or what if DM orders Raghu to let Satya marry? the biggie will be Antu herself might say I want to marry Satya...everything you say about Raghu is true but the biggest factor about him is that he loves Antu but he will also believe he doesn't deserve her, that by being with him she too will die and that is why he backs down from marrying her (so far, what we heard).

I don know Im stil havin hopes..bt the nly prob is then Satya n Ruksana both the characters wd bcm irrelevant!! How can you say Rukku is irrelevant. Did you not see her in today's episode? she will be a good friend to Antara. Let us be a bit sensitive here. Raghu is a rough man with a heart of gold and once anyone see's beneath that it would be impossible to not to fall in love with him just a tiny bit...just as Rukku has done. The important fact is that she has never made a play for him, in fact respects Rantara love. She has a right to her emotion, to feel sad but beyond that she is a good friend (hope that doesn't get changed). Satya will be a thorn in Rantara side until he becomes unncessary and then he will be gone!

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charminggenie

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Posted: 12 years ago

#35

Originally posted by: Dreamygal301

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charminggenie

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Posted: 12 years ago

#36

@DG - Can I just scream a big Yes, that like you I like the idea of Antara gunning for revenge. That would be so awesome. Hate-Love anyone?. She would try to torture him with her taunts and inflict emotional pain and he would bear it all. As he is guilty to her loss. The more she hurt him, the more she would cry. In her heart of hearts she understands Raghu, will know that he is innocent but he just makes her father's death so alive. I think if the CV's try , they dont even need another antagonist but they can play her hate as a character. No matter what nobody can tell her to stop hurting him- she has a genuine reason.

This is too deliciously set up, I hope they just don't over play the marriage track or have kitchen politics.

I always felt till now we have just seen the glimpse of their love, they need a conflict to make their love , the one for the ages.

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Dreamygal301

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: charminggenie
@DG - Can I just scream a big Yes, that like you I like the idea of Antara gunning for revenge. That would be so awesome. Hate-Love anyone?. She would try to torture him with her taunts and inflict emotional pain and he would bear it all. As he is guilty to her loss. The more she hurt him, the more she would cry. In her heart of hearts she understands Raghu, will know that he is innocent but he just makes her father's death so alive. I think if the CV's try , they dont even need another antagonist but they can play her hate as a character. No matter what nobody can tell her to stop hurting him- she has a genuine reason.
This is too deliciously set up, I hope they just don't over play the marriage track or have kitchen politics.

I always felt till now we have just seen the glimpse of their love, they need a conflict to make their love , the one for the ages.

CG,

The prospect for hate/love has once been played out when they first met. The chemistry and attraction between them was so obvious from the get go. Raghu was fighting and still can't keep his eyes of her. But she just came from lighting her father's pyre, she knows it had to be the terrorist and so she saw Raghu's action and instantly decided against him (equating it to the terror she left behind). She got angry and aggressive, which was so out of character (from what we had seen) but again it was a response to what she had been through - that being good gets you nowhere - and now in her Mama/Mami's basti there is something bad going on, something no one is willing to stand up for (she is linking it back to the terrorist's activities in Kashmir,where her father did stood up and then paid the ultimate price) and she WILL stand up especially as she owed her relatives for taking them in.

This starts their fight...Raghu unable to believe this girl is standing up to him when his word is the law...Well he wasn't having that, he wanted her respect (recall how he tried to get her to apologise) but she was adamant he was nothing (denying the power over her). The rest later was sniping, an avoidance of their attraction..the intensity only slipping when they got to near.

So the potential for revenge is good, though it would be short lived and half hearted as Raghu would not be responding, except for bleeding inside with her anger/taunt/action.

I think if Raghu takes this approach, being a wall to everything she is throwing at him her love will resurface because she would start trusting her judgement again and know that she had not been wrong in judging him as a person. If he in his pain, went out and started doing gundagiri (also a potential as an outlet for his pain - when we are down, we revert to our ingrained behaviour) then the revenge and hatred between them will go on. In fact, both may use this to sustain the separation, a mind's way of coping with the devastating trauma they are both facing but unwilling or helpless to end.

Conflict is huge as long as it's kept between them. I do not want other's to get involved otherwise it would be one big misunderstanding after another. I want their first impressions, then their love and now the current situation to be used through these conflicts.

The saying time is a great healer is very apt here. Only with time and distance can they make their back to each other, which would also give Antara the time to mourn her father and to really understand that he would be the first to say forgive Raghu and go back to him. All fathers do want a loving partner for their daughters, especially one that would die for her so willingly.

Unfortunately I doubt we would get the depth we are looking for. This week the editing of the story has been abysmal, character reaction/actions really slow and too action oriented, to segue into the dramatic side of the story I guess...tonight's episode was so butchered, IMO...as yesterday.

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