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Posted: 12 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: tinoo

Pressurized him how? How could sumitra pressurize him to forcibly sit in a mandap and get married to saanchi? He is an adult and he could have told them and taken a stand that he would not marry saanchi under any circumstances.
Now as for reason he did not want his family to be blamed... I do believe that this was a decision of great magnitude and he should atleast have given them the choice. i.e. "I plan to do this so as to spare you and take the blame on my shoulders ... would you like to do it in some different way?"
Maybe the singhs (dadisa and bhairon) would have preferred taking the blame on their shoulders. Did Jagya even consult them? or give them a chance?
and fair enough, if they reacted unreasonably, THEN AT THAT TIME, he could have gone and done exactly what he did and broken it off himself.


Yes, pressurized him. To call it forcing, one need not hold them physically. They mentally forced Jagya showing Anandi in front of him.

I still believe he did the right thing by going alone and face the bullet. Had he has done like what you said - informing Singhs ahead of breakup, that would have created other catastrophic effects on them. Shekhars would have blamed outright on Singhs than Jagya alone. They would have accused Singh's of allowing him to break the rishta without considering their family honor in the society. Remember, Singhs place high value to Shekhars and ready to bend backward and forward for the sake of Anandi. Jagya has seen this. Though that alone is not the trigger point for his decision but collectively such things has impact who has the upper hand in the relationship and who is going to suffer if something disturbance happens in the relationship. Jagya has clearly read its going to be him and Singhs.

I agree to your post on integrity but not in the case of Jagya. Frankly, no Singh except Bhairo trusts Jagya completely. They see Anandi's comfort at the cost of Jagya. And somewhere Jagya sensed this. Despite his explanations he will not be able to bring consensus on breaking up rishta without a solid proof. And things could go out of hand quickly. Marriage was just days ahead. He was ready to tolerate Sanchi for the life for the sake of his family. But when he saw there is no good comes to his family with this marriage, he went ahead with the breakup. What happens after that...its out his control...

Only thing he could have controlled is marrying Ganga...there Jagya should have explained his family about his intentions properly...there he should have made his case for Ganga...however that turns out to be good for him...again the out come of this marriage is also out of his control albeit good one...



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Posted: 12 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: monamie111

Tinoo...how r u? 😃...i really missed u and ur posts...hope u r doing well...

can u remember me?...i used to jump and attack u in every post of urs... šŸ˜†...so nice to see u back!...

Of course I remember you dear sweet monamie. we fought like cats and dogs on every single thread and every single post. 🤣🤣. I hated ANSH and you defended them with every last breath. How could I possibly forget you?? šŸ¤— . . Loved all your VMs. I would eagerly watch them.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#53
thanks gun_k, picasso9 and skepblun for your warm welcome šŸ¤—
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Posted: 12 years ago
#54
Tinooo!!! Really missed your posts on here. Your thought-provoking threads were what initially got me to join this forum, and despite disagreeing with you a lot about AnSh-related matters back in the day, I definitely missed you after you left! Hope you are here to stay despite the current pathetic state of the show 🤢 If you don't remember me, here's something to jog your memory: Heth Singh And The Kidnappers šŸ˜‰ šŸ˜› šŸ˜†

Anyway, back to the topic at hand... yes, I completely agree with you. I have serious issues with this entire track because Anandi was always someone who lived in line with her integrity. I mean, she went against Basant and Gehna in that sarpanch track and sided with the truth despite Sumitra begging her not to. So why did she stay quiet for so long in this case? Remaining silent and allowing the matter to escalate is not in Anandi's character at all.


With Jagya, I sympathise with his silence. I guess he was trying to make things work with Sanchi for a while before realising it was futile. He didn't want to cause Anandi any more trouble and wanted to make his family happy after all the grief he had caused them in the past. I am not sure why he acted so rashly and bhare-d Ganga's maang like that without warning, though. I guess he was just fed up of people questioning his rishta with her and wanted to shut them all up once and for all, and so took the bull by the horns in the midst of that emotionally-charged state of mind. At least he did that in line with his integrity, though. Anandi has yet to take charge like that in this situation. Jagya has shown far more courage than her in this track thus far.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: SiriuslySujal

Tinooo!!! Really missed your posts on here. Your thought-provoking threads were what initially got me to join this forum, and despite disagreeing with you a lot about AnSh-related matters back in the day, I definitely missed you after you left! Hope you are here to stay despite the current pathetic state of the show 🤢 If you don't remember me, here's something to jog your memory: Heth Singh And The Kidnappers šŸ˜‰ šŸ˜› šŸ˜†

Naz darling!! did you really think I would not remember you?? So happy to see you. šŸ¤—
Let past disagreements lie in the past. It's okay, we can start a fresh relationship now.
Heth singh and the kidnappers 🤣🤣 Ofcourse I remember the all-time favourite rock band.
🤣🤣 Really, I remember I was drinking some soda at the time when I read your post on that, and I started laughing so hard that my drink came out through my nose and splattered onto the computer screen and the keyboard. 🤣🤣. I remember well!!
Do you remember the other rock band "dadisa's laadesars" -- with nandu, jagdish, and shiv all singing on stage in dark glasses šŸ˜Ž
And they were to have a sing-off at the annual Jayetsar rustic music festival.
And then the anandi-shiv duet "Mirchi and Muscles" 🤣🤣🤣. At the time she was being very snippy to him and he and his muscles were pursuing her.
Sigh!! Good times.
🤣🤣
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: tinoo

Naz darling!! did you really think I would not remember you?? So happy to see you. šŸ¤—
Let past disagreements lie in the past. It's okay, we can start a fresh relationship now.
Heth singh and the kidnappers 🤣🤣 Ofcourse I remember the all-time favourite rock band.
🤣🤣 Really, I remember I was drinking some soda at the time when I read your post on that, and I started laughing so hard that my drink came out through my nose and splattered onto the computer screen and the keyboard. 🤣🤣. I remember well!!
Do you remember the other rock band "dadisa's laadesars" -- with nandu, jagdish, and shiv all singing on stage in dark glasses šŸ˜Ž
And they were to have a sing-off at the annual Jayetsar rustic music festival.
And then the anandi-shiv duet "Mirchi and Muscles" 🤣🤣🤣. At the time she was being very snippy to him and he and his muscles were pursuing her.
Sigh!! Good times.
🤣🤣



Oh, past disagreements are definitely in the past! Plus I always enjoyed debating with you anyway 😊 Very, very happy to see you back here 😳 šŸ¤—


And hahahaha! 🤣 You have a way better memory than I do! Saare purane yaad taaza kar diye 😃 I remember all of those things! Gosh, I really came up with some really crazy stuff back in the day, didn't I? 🤣 BV used to give me such inspiration ā­ļø Sadly, these days I only come here out of habit and have lost all real interest in the show's plot and proceedings. The Anandi who lived in line with her integrity seems to be no more!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: rdjha

a very nice and thought provoking post
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i agree that in all this fiasco Jagya and anandi both are to be blamed in that order.
Sanchi and Shekhars are of course at maximum fault...but i donot want to discuss them here.

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Jagya, agreed he is a changed man...and his decision of calling of the engagement and marrying Ganga was very much correct, but the way he handled it was really wrong and the biggest reason of all this fiasco.
First - i am ok that he did not wait for anandi to talk to Shiv and all, because he saw her resistance in breaking this rishta. But he should have spoken to his family. he could have called Bhairav atleast - that would have led him to a better direction with a better advice.

second - even if he did break off in haste - that is his intrinsic nature, he had enough time to tell the truth to his family before leaving for Manglore. Ganga was in trouble all done - but an hour's delay wouldnt have caused any difference to Ganga's case.

third - there was absolutely no need to marry Ganga this way. and i dont buy Sumitra as an excuse. Just because she was degrading Ganga doesnt mean you go and do the sindoor daan.
Jagya did it cause he loves Ganga and this was an easy escape from Sanchi and getting Ganga in his life. if he was not in love with Ganga, but still didnt want to mary Sanchi - then also he would have done the sindoor daan just because of Sumitra's insults? No, never. Ganga was also in love with Jagya and hence she also didnt protest. If she didnt love him, she would have fought tooth and nail but wouldnt have allowed him to fill her maang.

So this enitre wedding was unnecessary. and people are not wrong when they say that Jagya wanted to marry Ganga and made Sanchi a scapegoat. due to Jagya's wrong timing, Sanchi's faults were easily forgotten and all blame came on him, ganga and anandi.
Jagya has always been selfish and impulsive and he is still the same.
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coming to anandi - i agree she was sitting on a large pile of lies. but she never wanted to hide it, its just that she delayed things unnecessarily. but then again it is her intrinsic nature to keep things to her self, assess it to no ends and then try to brong it to light. and this is where she is at fault.

i dont buy the reason that Shiv was busy in romance and didnt allow her to speak...if she really wanted to tell him , she could have. when he knows its about his sister and J he would have listened no matter what his mood was. didnt she strongly discuss Chanda and Bhaili issues with him, he was in a romantic mood then as well. the real issue was anandi wasnt willing to share. she herself was confused and didnt understand how to present the case so that her point is understood and there is minimum hurt. she basically wanted to keep all parties happy, which is never the case when you have truth to unfold.


but i do agree with Aparna, that the way you bring out the truth is equally important. one wrong move and it can fall flat on your face and that is what happened now. Anandi was too late to speak, and when she did, Jagya's sudden wedding completely washed out her efforts.

even now when Shiv puts Jagya in jail it is very important how anandi supports Jagya. she really needs to be smart else she will lose all her relations and also her husband in the process.

Excellent post . Well said.

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