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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nice post Ash. I too had said exactly these same things in several posts earlier but I think people weren't ready then to hear that Soham himself should be responsible for his own actions. So it's good that you brought it up again.

In the final analysis this is true for everyone...unless someone is mentally ill and cannot function normally. So I would like to throw out a challenge to both of us, putting out a caveat regarding Soham. As the writers have now portrayed him, he is mentally ill. His obsession goes beyond normative behavior on all levels.

There is of course history of obsession in the family. Varsha who stole him was obsessed with him and the results are obvious. Ovi's attachment to Arjun was bordering on obsession, and of course many felt it was ...

In Soham's case however, they have taken it a step further and included his violent & criminal upbringing to boot. Varsha's obsession was centered on her and Soham, and Ovi's centered on her and Arjun. They were both suicidal and wanted to hurt themselves if they couldn't get what they wanted. Of course there was much peripheral damage in both cases.

With Soham however, it is different and obviously much more dangerous. Soham was depressed & drinking (hurting himself) but now he also wants to hurt others when he can't get what he wants. Anger and depression are just two sides of the same coin...one turns inward and the other outward but they are the same thing clinically speaking. Except in my personal non professional opinion the desire to harm or kill others is much worse. In addition, whilst suicidal depression is treatable and often healed, violence towards other is rarely changed. Not always, there are cases but very very few.

All this to say, it is even more dismaying that the writers Ekta and the CV's took such a loved character and made him this way. Not much hope now to redeem him...or heal him.

But of course, as i've posted many times before...Ekta and her magic wand can do anything she wants!! abracadabra !! šŸ˜†



Edited by naava - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: pikachu.


It may happen but normally the husband would be more educated ! If its vice versa it becomes really difficult for a man to live! Trust me, its the truth! Love is temporary but a man does start feeling inferiority complex if his wife is more educated and earns more than him! At least in India it would have been a big issue! Soham would probably after few years only start feeling the same! And as you can see he never really loved her. So it would take hardly few seconds for the attraction to fade! There is infact a movie too of Amitabh Bacchan(dont remember the herione or the fim name). There they have shown that ! Amitabh had loved one girl who was from a small village but she used to sing well. He was a well known singer. But later she became more famous and popular than him and she used to get more offers than him! He later started hating her.
If the difference is quite small its okay to some extent..but in case of soham-gauri one is educated and one is not! It changes the whole situation!
Love is one of the factors which run a marraige but not the only one!


Jst love ur reply regarding this post šŸ‘ ... Specially ur last line dat love is one of factor for run a marriage...realistic and matured thinking..I like it 😊 ... Just before 24 hours i read one post by onirfans which was also realistic but in post reply so many members mentioned dat Love is pavitra rishta which is beyond than marriage too... It was shocking reply by arvi fans...good to see dat someone like you is also existing in this forum.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: naava

Nice post Ash. I too had said exactly these same things in several posts earlier but I think people weren't ready then to hear that Soham himself should be responsible for his own actions. So it's good that you brought it up again.


In the final analysis this is true for everyone...unless someone is mentally ill and cannot function normally. So I would like to throw out a challenge to both of us, putting out a caveat regarding Soham. As the writers have now portrayed him, he is mentally ill. His obsession goes beyond normative behavior on all levels.

There is of course history of obsession in the family. Varsha who stole him was obsessed with him and the results are obvious. Ovi's attachment to Arjun was bordering on obsession, and of course many felt it was ...

In Soham's case however, they have taken it a step further and included his violent & criminal upbringing to boot. Varsha's obsession was centered on her and Soham, and Ovi's centered on her and Arjun. They were both suicidal and wanted to hurt themselves if they couldn't get what they wanted. Of course there was much peripheral damage in both cases.

With Soham however, it is different and obviously much more dangerous. Soham was depressed & drinking (hurting himself) but now he also wants to hurt others when he can't get what he wants. Anger and depression are just two sides of the same coin...one turns inward and the other outward but they are the same thing clinically speaking. Except in my personal non professional opinion the desire to harm or kill others is much worse. In addition, whilst suicidal depression is treatable and often healed, violence towards other is rarely changed. Not always, there are cases but very very few.

All this to say, it is even more dismaying that the writers Ekta and the CV's took such a loved character and made him this way. Not much hope now to redeem him...or heal him.

But of course, as i've posted many times before...Ekta and her magic wand can do anything she wants!! abracadabra !!šŸ˜†






Naava, Unlike Ovi and Varsha, Soham's obsession is Bordering on violence because of the influence in his upbringing. All his life he has been trained to react with violence and sadly that is manifesting in his actions now and is causing havoc to all including himself.
As far as Ekta's magic wand I will not be surprised if she either makes Gauri suddenly realize her hidden love for him which she was not even aware of OR Sachin giving Gauri back to Soham so all is well in the happy family :) after all, people are commodities in PR ! Has been done before, so nothing new..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Wonderful post ash as always...totally agree with you šŸ‘ šŸ‘
Soham is mature enough to take his own decisions and responsibilities...in life there are many who try to influence you(in the case of soham..its balan)..but you need to out-past that and stay firm on your decision...unfortunately Soham is unable to do so...if Soham wanted he can become as educated as anyone else by,as you said joining night classes just like her mother Archana did..but unfortunately he didnt do so..he chose the wrong path!!But yeah Ankit is doing an amazing job portraying the character of Soham...šŸ‘šŸ¼

Once again amazing post by you..thank you for sharing your point of view..it is always a pleasure to read themšŸ¤—
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: bee5

Ash,
Brilliant Post, once again!
And i remember myself writing this long time back during Purvi's kidnap that Soham is an adult with his own "thinking". Upbringing, environment, etc only have certain effect, once the person grows and gets his own thinking, he is completely responsible for his doings.

I hv never bothered abt Soham and nvr rooted for him, but i did watch all the events happening, so i can't turn a blind eye.
What is happening right now is such a crappy drama that as always has several loopholes and impossibilities. It is such an improbable case that writing abt it or even thinking abt it makes me feel is a waste of time ... Oh i'm digressing!

So, soham the remorseful kidnapper & unsocial element was still shown to not touch Purvi and respect her! So, they did show all was not lost and showed several instances of it which u hv noted too. So how could this person not understand a 'no' was a 'no'? I cannot comprehend anything beyond that, everything is completely illogical to me.

So soham was an 'animal' they say and what was their own behavior towards him yday? Wasn't that beastly? I'm not condoning what soham did, but what did the rest do?

Gauri did not love Soham, fine. But gauri did not love Sachin too.

Would the happenings be any different if Archana-Manav had infact taken Soham's proposal & not Sachin's? Would Gauri hv accepted that proposal?

Everyone started screaming that what Soham want is wrong & incorrect, that they thrashed him yday worse than a living being, but its not something that he 'wanted' after knowing Sachin-Gauri's alliance, so how did that become wrong?
Here, His 'wanting' is completely different from his 'acceptance of not getting what he wants'. His 'want' is not wrong, his not accepting the happenings is wrong. But if his parents had taken his proposal instead of sachin's & if Gauri also had accepted, everything wud've been right.

So conclusion:
Soham is wrong in what he did.
And rest of the family too are not any right in what they did.
And really and big blah and thumbs down to EK & her creatives! Quality of their content stinks!



šŸ‘ Completely agree with ur post! Thats what Ive been trying to say in other threads! Soham is completely wrong in being obsessive and violently murderous, but his parents are also completely wrong in their way of dealing with this whole thing! If they were more understanding and patient with him, matters would not be so out of hand! Im not absolving Soham of his crimes, he shd be in jail where he belongs! But then Archana and Manav also share the blame for blasting him and beating him up when they could have explained to him calmly why he cant marry Gauri... because hes an uneducated, uncivilized ex-criminal who would not be acceptable to Gauri or her parents!

Soham is wild, uncouth and uncivilized, we dont expect him to deal with his obsession in a philosophical manner but his parents could have behaved with more sensitivity and caution.

As for Soham alone being responsible for his own actions, I think most human beings tend to blame others for their unhappiness, sorrows, bad luck or whatever ills befall them. Soham is also blaming and hating Sachin for always coming in between his happiness, for being Manav's favorite son, while hes always been rejected and blamed by Manav. He is hating Sachin for snatching Gauri from him, as thats the way he perceives it. Hes hating Sachin for having had all the chances in life, from an education abroad to love and acceptance of Deshmukh family while he has been deprived of all that inspite of being their son!
Does Soham really have the maturity or self realization to think that he himself is responsible for his own life? For his own actions?
Edited by pallavi25 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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In PR characters never take responsibility for their own actions, it is always blamed on upbringing or some other excuse. So why will it be different with Soham. He wil be allowed the convenien excuse that he was raised by a bad man and therefore became bad. Adults must be made accountable for their actions. Your past only influences your present to the extent that you allow it to do so. You are in control of your today as an adult.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Brilliant post Ash di ! Agree completely ! šŸ‘
Its not like always Soham needs to be blamed because he is shown to us like he is Bishna Lala, he has a heart inside, but the way Ekta is showing his one sided love, its like Me, myself and only I , Soham was never like this, this all happened overnight and he took a 180 turn!

It really hurts when ur favourite characters are butchered in the show .! 😭
Edited by Ruchikaarvilove - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -LiveLaughLove-

Wonderful post Ash šŸ‘
Could not agree more. This is not love. Love comes with respect and it is free. If Soham loved Gauri he would want her to be happy and if it was with Sachin so be it.
Soham is responsible for himself, he has no respect for Gauri how can he claim he loves her?


thanx for using my siggie Avni šŸ¤— and well said ! Soham doesn't respect her then Howcome he say he loves Gauri ? First he shud learn how to respect girls and then explain the meaning of love !
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Haa dear...i jst lvd hm as soham his cutie chweetie sharmaana hs way of speakng hs nok jhoks it ws lvly n fun 2 watch...but ekta has ruind it lyk anythng...
Yeah ankit s potrayn hs neg role realy v gud v appreciable

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