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Posted: 11 years ago
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first of all i dont blame shakti at all for this mess. why is everyone expecting him to behave like an adult when he is not. it is US who has messed up this situation. this fight was coming since the beginning because it started wid how US treated his mother. i agree that pratap is better than shakti in everything but as a king and as a father, he failed there too coz he openly showed that he favored pratap instead of treating them as equal when the competition began. so he needs to stop bragging that he was being a fair king when he sentenced shakti. jayawantabai's approach to this is a classic example of how to treat everyone fair and equally. after shakti lost, instead of going to him and being a good father, he completely ignored him and started yelling at him in court infront of everyone. he could have had that convo in private. shakti is barely a teenager and one cannot expect mature and subtle behavior from him considering how he and his mother were treated by US all his life.

shakti behaved exactly the way a kid behaves when a parent tries to force their thoughts or does not give them enough attention and love. he rebelled. it is love and care given by parents that shapes a child's character and develops a bond of understanding. there is a reason why pratap is so understanding and subtle most of times. it is jayawantabai who with her love, care and understanding always takes care of him. she has always given honest, firm and straight answers to any questions by pratap. has US ever done that to shakti?
so i put this whole thing on US who is a megalomaniac and who failed as a father and now as a king too.

sorry for the long post.
Edited by john909 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree wid every word in this post.
Shakti and US both r having elephant size ego. But I won't blame Shakti here, all this mess has been created by GHAMANDI UDAY SINGH. In one of @Pari's post I supported him when I saw dat scene where he decided to free Shakti from jail but now no more sympathy to US. He failed to himself as a good father as well as a king. Husband ki toh baat hi chodo, he's just Bhatiyani's hubby.

And Shakti has been gifted this stubborn attitude 4m his father only. Afterall bacche bado se hi sikhte hai. Shakti is a kid , so he can commit mistakes, he can act stupid, impulsive but watz wrong wid Ranaji?? He is behaving like completely self obsessed egomaniac jerk?? God, he just shouts on every1. I want to punch him in d face when tries to insult Jaywanta.

But I like d way Shakti smirks at him. And his answers ... They r just awesome. He's done masters in Sarcasm. He rubs d truth on US's face. I just love that.

I don't know d name of dat actor playing Shakti's role, he is really doing a good job.

And @Anu, see I m nor reserving any comment here. 😛
Tere wo post pe Mera comment baki hai, will comment soon. U write a full epis detailed description.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@john and @cherryberry

I am with you on Shakti! I always maintain that US ought to be wiser being an adult! Shakti is a teen or not even a teen yet and if he feels a sense of neglect and discrimination then it is contingent upon US to resolve that conflict.

US' open favouritism amongst wives and kids does not go well with anybody. Wives digest it somehow because they are mature and being women they feel too tied up by feeling of patni-dharma to even voice protest against Rana ji. Kids can't be expected to be silent and bear everything patiently.

Also in last episode Shakti was silent. It was US who started it all. He worsened a matter which could have been solved.

This is why I call him Asth Singh (Asth is opposite of Uday!). 😛

And yeah I have admitted it earlier and I admit now also that I personally LOVE it when Shakti shows US the mirror and reminds him of his bias. US is in denial. But fact is that he is biased. Shakti's silence, his smirks or his one liners like "unhone jisey aashirwaad dena tha woh usey pehle hi de chuke hain" are kickass! 😆 I love his rebel nature!
This egomaniac US deserves it for he's too drunk on his power seeing everyone get to their knees and always beg in front of him!

I hate how he threatens to throw out Pratap also. Or mis-judges Pratap thinking he has started 'interfering' because he is proud of being Yuvraj whereas Pratap cares zilch about about being Yuvraj!

He has eyes, ears and heart only for Bhaatiyani! 🤢 Hen-pecked husband in her case!

@Cherryberry

Thank you! 😆 Bada acha laga full reply padh ke aur "Res" ka saamna na kar ke. 😉 Waiting for your updates on previous "res" posts. 😃
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Well written post my friend!
Maharana Uday Sing or Rana Sangha or king of Amer, all Rajput kings had ego problem. Perhaps they wanted to show their nation that they are the most fair rulers on earth and would serve justice in all circumstances.
Shakti Sigh was a stubborn prince who wanted to become the King of Mewar. I think his mom and youngest queen Batiyani has to be blamed for Shakti Singh's conduct and behaviour.
History tells us that even Uday Singh forgot his promise in his last days before his death and wanted Batiyani's son Jagmal to succeed him but after Uday Singh's death the senior Ministers wanted Pratap Sigh to be their King as time was very tough and difficult. In their opinion Prince Jagmal would have been a weak King. Shakti Singh and Sagar Singh did not support Pratap at that time and jained King of Delhi Akbar's army.
At the famous battle of Haldi Ghati which was fought on June 21, 1576, both Shakti Singh and Sagar Singh fought against Pratap Sigh from Mugal Army. When Pratap was trying to kill Raja Maan Sigh of Amer in that battle who was also fighting from Mugal side, his horse Chetak got injured on his thigh from Maan Sigh's Elephant sword called mardana. Pratap had no choice when his generals advised him to flee the field so as to be able to fight another day. As Pratap was escaping the field, two Afghan worriers followed him. Shakti Sigh spotted them and realized that his own brother was in danger. Pratap could not go more than 2 miles when Chetak collapsed. Shakti Singh went after them and killed those two Afghan soldiers. Shakti hugged Pratap and apologised for his behaviour. Both brothers had tears in their eyes. Shakti gave his Horse Unkar to Pratap and Pratap vanished in dense forest.
I still remember the poem I read in my grade 6 Hindi text book:
Ran beech chori bhar bhar kar chetak ban gaya nirala tha,
Rana Pratap ke Ghore se, par gaya hawa ka paala tha.
Great history, great people of Rajastan but unfortunately some Rajas gave their daughters to Mugals in marriages at the name of friendship.
Pratap Sigh was a Sisodiya Rajpot. These Rajpot clans - Sisodiyas, Chauhan, Rathor, Tomar, tanwar, Parmar, katoch, Solanki, Pundir, Rawat, Bist etc later settled in UP, Punjab, Hariyana, Garhwal and MP. Here in Canada I was surprised to see some of my Muslim friends from Pakistan have these last names, that mean they are also Rajputs who had adopted Islam some 300 - 500 years ago.
Edited by JasToronto - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@JasToronto

Thanks for the reply and the info. 😊

I think Shakti's behaviour is also to be blamed on US who definitely is partial and talks down to everybody except Bhaatiyani and Pratap. Yes Bhaatiyani only fuels his feelings of insecurity.
Sajjabai is not responsible for his attitude. She does try to make him happy, get him out of frustration and correct his misconceptions. But yes she is a bit weak and not that persuasive. She is scared of Rana ji and Shakti. And at times she too has made mistakes by listening to Bhaatiyani's nonsense.

Uday Singh according to me is like a guy "jo kisi ka sagaa nahin hai"! He cares only for Bhaatiyani. All his Pratap Pratap chant is also hokum as we know he will take back his decision and make Bhaatiyani's son his successor later! 🤢

It is to Pratap's inherent qualities and patriotism plus Jaywanta bai's good upbringing of Pratap that he did not become frustrated after what his father did to him. It was a shame to be stripped off the title of Yuvraj after being given that in a public ceremony.

And going by the show I think it is family ties which finally resurfaced and led Shakti to save Pratap in that battle with Mughals.

Rajputs may have converted to Islam. Maybe due to pressure or to derive benefits by siding with them. Mostly it was pressure I think.Some have been said to have converted to Sikhism also. Another discussion altogether.

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