JW’s right to fatherhood

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Posted: 19 years ago
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One question has really bugged me for a long time. I am not married and thus may be find it difficult to understand. Does a person hold exclusive rights to parent hood if their spouse has cheated on them? I think not. During the PR raaz I could have supported Bani's decision of leaving JW cause of her love for her mother but what right did she had to deny Jai's right to be with his child, or a child's right to have his father's TLC and protection? She is again somehow treading on the same path but JW can have a little relief this time because his wife is at least in protected surroundings and in front of his eyes. The way she keeps on harping "mera bachcha" makes it sounds like JW never wanted this baby and she is the one, who is solely responsible for the baby. I can understand her dilemma right now and if she runs into JW's arms just like that, I will not be able to digest that. I am saying this cause even after Munna's partial redemption, as a woman and a wife who love her husband to death, she cannot overlook, that her own flesh and blood, her own sister (and on top of that a Dixit) is carrying his child, something she held exclusive rights to.


This is not a post favoring Jai or Bani bashing but simply questioning a child and his father's (or mothers )rights to be with each other. I am not suggesting that a single parent cannot be good at parenting but just that- should a person be denied his child cause he/she has committed adultery?Same goes for Pai too, inspite of being a bad person what if she turns out to be a better mother than Bani?
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Posted: 19 years ago
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The legal position I believe is that the Court determines which parent is able to provide better parental care and gives custody of the child to him/her. Not sure on this but most often to the non-cheating partner. But the other partner is given visitation rights etc.

(if she runs into JW's arms just like that, I will not be able to digest that.)

I will not be able to digest that either. But surely she must start realising that he too has been through a trauma and that at least she had a support system, he was just left to rot on his own. She has to reach out as a concerned human being and as a friend, if not as a wife.

(she cannot overlook, that her own flesh and blood, her own sister (and on top of that a Dixit) is carrying his child, something she held exclusive rights to. )

Yes, she cannot. But over a period of time, she has to realise that what happened was not Munna's fault. But if she cannot, then she has to set him free and let the two of them go their own ways.

Rgds,

Pri



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Posted: 19 years ago
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Pri....

when its Dixits and JW facing eachother,Dixits win hands down!! as munna wants so adn if bani is on either side no prizes for guessing..
So regarding J-B child its amma who will make all the decissions,set the rules and finalises the rights and later she will tell that her child will understand what she did was right!!!.
So though its not written anywhere that a bad husband(is my munna a bad one 😕 ) will make a bad father and i am sure JW will make the best Father any child would dream off!!! anyday he will turn out to be a better parent than bani.
So with maasi and skunk around i hav doubts whether he will be allowed to be with his princess.




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Posted: 19 years ago
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Mahimn,
I think part of the problem is the way the creatives heels handled post-ons. Bani has with her own eyes, seen JW give primacy to the child Reptile is carrying: that infamous Anupam shooting Pia scene where JW is made to say that the child is his, and that he wants it more than anything in the world.....
So perhapds Bani feels that JW has already gotten the rights of a parent, by his own chosing....
if they had shown JW confessing to Bani or even outrightly rejecting Reptile's kid, thereby proving his words to Bani that all he wanted was Bani, he could live without a child then Bani's actions right now would be unjustifiable.
As it is, having been betrayed by the two ppl she loved and trusted absolutely (however inadvertent the ons may have been for JW, the post ons deception of Bani was something he did with full consciousness!) this child is all Bani has and i do understand her stance.
In the end of course as a complete JB loyalist, i want Reptile's Progeny to be fathered by Pushkar so that Jai can now set out to woo Bani.......and we can have our unsullied JB and their JDD back.
Armana
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Priyanka, in any case, a mother cannot deny the right of the child to its father, until unless he proves to be a bad parent! But in JW's case, I personally feel that JW will be a better parent (as he will not teach Banigiri and jasoosi for sure) 😡
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Armana,

(Bani has with her own eyes, seen JW give primacy to the child Reptile is carrying:)

She has seen a lot of other things too:

JW saving her from fire.
JW saving her from the riots.
JW exonerating her from the black magic scam.
JW quietly accepting whatever punishment she and the WM gfns have to hand out to him.
JW kicking out Pia and her kid from WM.
JW making over his entire property to her and making her flunkey Pooch the project head.
JW coming back to WM just for saving Raashi's life, paying for her treatment.

Bani just sees things secletively. I guess what she chooses to see and what she chooses not to see tells us a lot about the kind of person she herself is.

(having been betrayed by the two ppl she loved and trusted absolutely )

This is something that I have understood. Bani has never trusted JW so why accuse him of breaking her trust.

(this child is all Bani has )

She has a lot of other things- St. Billo, Dadi, Adi, Rano, Raashi, Pooch, St. Tarun, Anu, WM, Walia Corp, loads of money. It is JW who does not have anything (apart from Karuna possibly).

(In the end of course as a complete JB loyalist, i want Reptile's Progeny to be fathered by Pushkar so that Jai can now set out to woo Bani.......)

So JW after being acquitted of being a rape victim, having had his shradh performed and kicked out of his own house, has to go out to woo Bani. Poor fellow has to pay for falling for a Dixit.

Rgds,

Pri

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Posted: 19 years ago
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The issue here is that why after JW hs been partially redeemed, she denies him his right?She knows this much that he was not a deliberate party to what ever happened in Dubai,one can understand that she is not comfortable with him as man and wife but as a mothger should she not let a father be with his child?The legal angle will come in when JW had confessed of cheating on his wife deliberately, but it is not the case

Jai has proved time and again that he loves her and at the same time he cannot ignore his child from Pia, he has made it clear that he is not in love with Pia at all.
This is a very sensitive imaginary situation-What iftti was Bani who had conceived out of marriage, what if she had been raped or drugged,would she have given up on the child she conceived from that incident?
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Priyanka,

(This is a very sensitive imaginary situation-What iftti was Bani who had conceived out of marriage, what if she had been raped or drugged,would she have given up on the child she conceived from that incident?)

I had in fact put something on this line on MT's POV post. (I will PM the scenario to you. Maybe u can comment on that.) And tried to draw parallels with JW. The general comment quite rightly was that people would have difficulty sympathising with JW because of preconceived notions about males and females.

There is something more. bani has secured Nattu's rights in the Walia family and WM, wouldn't it look hypocritical on her part to deny that to Karan?

Rgds,

Pri


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Posted: 19 years ago
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what if she had been raped or drugged,would she have given up on the child she conceived from that incident?

***Never and not because she is a dixit, any female who conceives no matter in what circumstances develops a feeling for the baby (there are cases who would go for an abortion for many reasons too) and especially she being Ekta's herione she wouldnt hv punished the innocent kid and now also she doesnt realise, keeping the father away is like punishing the child as it deserves the love of both the parents and especially when JW is longing for the baby
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: aashyagh

Priyanka, in any case, a mother cannot deny the right of the child to its father, until unless he proves to be a bad parent! But in JW's case, I personally feel that JW will be a better parent (as he will not teach Banigiri and jasoosi for sure) 😡

Ash that is right. But I believe that JW is just as bad as Bani in his parenting skills. If she brought up Pia then he too brought up Jigyasa, none of them turned out to be good but evil personified.

But JW sometimes learns from his mistakes which Bani fails to do everytime. JW finds it difficult to trust people once they have betrayed him,Bani is the only exception. But Bani puts her trust where it backfires on her always.

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