Bani’s Indifference towards JW - My POV!

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Posted: 19 years ago
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If you look at JW's outcasting in a logical sense, you would see that the Creatives are doing it deliberately, cause they know that majority of the viewership is comprised of women who are ga-ga over RK / JW! And hence, making him a Matyr will only help in gaining audience sympathy!

Even though, Bani irritates me for some or the other reason, I still find her to be one of the most sensitive and endearingly loyal Balaji Characters (Females) Even though so much happened, the thought of revenge or marrying someone else to spite JW never even crossed Bani's mind, she was always shown to be in love with him and never even displayed any outburst of temper or insulting him ever, neither when they were alone and definitely not in front of anyone! (Infact she had looked mighty offended when Tarun had picked up a fight with JW in the Office)

What Bani is going through is actually a very natural reaction.....Our mind is conditioned to accept what our eyes see and what our ears listen to.....even though the truth is always spoken from the Heart, we hardly ever seem to listen to it! Bani in her Heart knows, always knew, that Jai coudldn't betray her in this manner but what she has been conditioned to see for the last few days has obviously clouded her mind!

The truth for Bani today is that her husband is Father to her sister's child and that disgusts the life out of her, as it does to us! It doesn't matter how it happened, why it happened or whether it really happened or not, the truth is so bitter and so huge, that Bani is unable to see anything else!

This is very similar to the situation that JW faced a few months back, when Bani had come back into his life (Dubai) Even though Jai accepted her unconditonally, he was distant from her, since his mind seemed to say that this is the same woman who killed their child and claimed a vicious divorce settlement from him and yet his Heart said that, this is the same woman who has loved him more than anyone else in the World! It took time for Jai to see what his Heart told him, despite the fact that both Pushkar and Massi tried their best to give justifications for Bani's actions (Here I do believe, that if they had told the entire truth to Jai, he would have accepted Bani without any apprehensions!)

Bani has been told the truth by Massi and she believes it, but how can she disbelieve what she has been seeing for the last few days? How can you expect Bani to go running into her Husband's arms, when she has seen him throwing the Divorce Papers on her face and claiming that he loves Pia and is the Father of her child????? (Once again, Bani has selective amnesia, but that is the Creative's fault and not the character's!)

If you remember an old episode of KS, where Bani had lied about her Pregnancy to save Anu's honor, Jai had been livid with anger and humiliation and had gone all out to put down Bani and make her life miserable! And mind you, that was a time, when Jai had absolutely no feelings or emotions for Bani, none at all, save, except, affection and trust, but that is it! (Jai had told Bani that once Massi goes away, he will divorce her and free her from the marriage, but still the news of her Pregnancy totally rocked him up!) If the fact that his unwanted, unloved Wife could have a child with some other man had so shaken and shattered Jai, then how can you expect Bani to forgive and forget all that happened between Jai and Pia!

Things have changed a lot now, not only does Bani love Jai, but is going to become the Mother of his child. Remember, it is not only about Jai fathering a child outside his marriage, it is also about his Fathering a child with Banis' own sister! How it happened is probably immaterial to Bani right away, it happened is all that matters!

Also, as you might know, the trust factor between Jai and Bani weighs heavily in Jai's favour...He has always trusted Bani unconditionally, as opposed to Bani trusting him!

Hence, I feel that unless and untill Jai's name is cleared in the ONS Fiasco, totally, as in its proved that he has not Fathered Pia's child and nothing happened between them that night, Bani will find it impossible to carry on with Jai...More importantly, Jai would find it impossible to carry on with Bani!

Bani might unconditionally accept the child later on, but she will find it very difficult to accept a tainted husband! Not because she loves him any less, but ironically, because she loves him too much! It is a strange fact of life, that we find it the toughest to forgive people who are the closest to our Hearts! Hence, Bani might with time forget about what Pia did to her, she will find it neigh impossible to forget what Jai did to her (Deliberate or not, it doesn't matter. When has the Heart listened to reasons, anyway?)

But that does not in anyway imply that Bani's love for Jai has gone down in anyway, but she is the sort of woman, who would rather live alone, than live with a doubt in her mind and same goes for Jai!

Rambled a lot with and without reason, if you guys feel same or contrary, please do share your views on this!😊

Love,

MT

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Posted: 19 years ago
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MT,
i completely agree with u and i just posted that on Pri post that she is confused about what to believe and she needs time and unless until JW himself explains her the whole issue and his behavior post ONS she wont be able to be normal with Jw and that is what she was doing on friday episode, she wants an explanation from JW as she never suspected JW to be father of pia's child and pia also was sure that she won't believe this fact unless until this come out from Jw's mouth only and that's why she played that game. so i think its high time that both of them should talk to each other about whole issue and which i think is not possible as mai won't do that.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mistletoe

If you look at JW's outcasting in a logical sense, you would see that the Creatives are doing it deliberately, cause they know that majority of the viewership is comprised of women who are ga-ga over RK / JW! And hence, making him a Matyr will only help in gaining audience sympathy!

Bani irritates me for some or the other reason, but I still find her to be one of the most sensitive and loyal Balaji Characters (Females) Even though so much happened, the thought of revenge or marrying someone else to spite JW never even crossed Bani's mind, she was always shown to be in love with him and never even displayed any outburst of temper or insulting him!

What Bani is going through is actually a very natural reaction.....Our mind is conditioned to accept what our eyes see and what our ears listen to.....even though the truth is always spoken from the Heart, we hardly ever seem to listen to it! Bani in her Heart knows, always knew, that Jai coudldn't betray her in this manner but what she has been conditioned to see for the last few days has obviously clouded her mind!

The truth for Bani today is that her husband is Father to her sister's child and that disgusts the life out of her, as it does to us! It doesn't matter how it happened, why it happened or whether it really happened or not, the truth is so bitter and so huge, that Bani is unable to see anything else!

This is very similar to the situation that JW faced a few months back, when Bani had come back into his life (Dubai) Even though Jai accepted her unconditonally, he was distant from her, since his mind seemed to say that this is the same woman who killed their child and claimed a vicious divorce settlement from him and yet his Heart said that, this is the same woman who has loved him more than anyone else in the World! It took time for Jai to see what his Heart told him, despite the fact that both Pushkar and Massi tried their best to give justifications for Bani's actions (Here I do believe, that if they had told the entire truth to Jai, he would have accepted Bani without any apprehensions!)

Bani has been told the truth by Massi and she believes it, but how can she disbelieve what she has been seeing for the last few days? How can you expect Bani to go running into her Husband's arms, when she has seen him throwing the Divorce Papers on her face and claiming that he loves Pia and is the Father of her child?????

If you remember an old episode of KS, where Bani had lied about her Pregnancy to save Anu's honor, Jai had been livid with anger and humiliation and had gone all out to put down Bani and make her life miserable! And mind you, that was a time, when Jai had absolutely no feelings or emotions for Bani, none at all, save, except, affection and trust, but that is it! If the fact that his unwanted, unloved Wife could have a child with some other man had so shaken and shattered Jai, then how can you expect Bani to forgive and forget all that happened between Jai and Pia! Remember, it is not only about Jai fathering a child outside his marriage, it is also about his Fathering a child with Banis' own sister! How it happened is probably immaterial to Bani right away, it happened is all that matters!

Also, as you might know, the trust factor between Jai and Bani weighs heavily in Jai's favour...He has always trusted Bani unconditionally, as opposed to Bani trusting him! That is a fact!

Hence, I feel that unless and untill Jai's name is cleared in the ONS Fiasco, totally, as in its proved that he has not Fathered Pia's child and nothing happened between them that night, Bani will find it impossible to carry on with Jai...More importantly, Jai would find it impossible to carry on with Bani!

But that does not in anyway imply that Bani's love for Jai has gone down in anyway, but she is the sort of woman, who would rather live alone, than live with a doubt in her mind and same goes for Jai!

Rambled a lot with and without reason, if you guys feel same or contrary, please do share your views on this!😊

Love,

MT



MT,

I agree with all you say, these two lived through a gamut of emotions, indifference, respect, hate, affection, love etc.

It is however very sad that the betrayal as Bani sees it will come between her love towards Jai. The sanctity of marriage has been broken, the unfaithful act is so amoral not only because of adultery, but because of the person that's involved.

Imagine your husband committing adultery with your sibling, no matter how much I love my spouse, it will always come between him and I.

So I respect Bani for her feelings, it doesn't matter if Pia cornered JW to do all this, it's just seeing them together mentally is a big put-off for any wife.


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Posted: 19 years ago
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MT very aptly summed ....i totally agree with u on this bani will and has to take time like a normal human regarding everything that has happened..it is not at all possible for her to ignore the fact that jai has fathered pias child...and asking her to rush into jais arms as he is proven as a victim is high even for st.bani...she has seen jai's passion for the child during the revelation with mera baccha...his behavior post ons.....her trust is broken and belief in relaationship is shattered and the same holds for jai as well..and only these two can help each other in rediscovering each other and regaining their lost trust in relations
funny u mentioned that anus pregnancy scenario coz trying to analyze banis behavior the same scene came to my mind jai had humiliated her left right even when he had no feelings for her....but now eventhough he was literally forced the fact remains that pia is carrying jais first born in the present scenario ....and we r not ready to fathom the situation how can bani or jai for that matter...they need time
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Posted: 19 years ago
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MT,

Very well-written POV and I think you have given a wonderful insight into Bani's state of mind at the moment. It is not just the fact of the ONS and also the fact that JW would after all be the father of Pia's kid but also his behaviour post-ONS which she would find distasteful. All said and done, she is human (and a Dixit on top of that )and it will take her some time to digest the whole situation- JW commiting adultery with her own sister. But I hope as time passes she is able to view things in the correct perspective and also reflect on her own conduct as a wife/sis.

It is not so much her current behaviour but the trajectory of her future behaviour which will be of greater interest to me. Does time make her more withdrawn from JW or does it make her more understanding of what happened and why it happened?

(he was distant from her, since his mind seemed to say that this is the same woman who killed their child and claimed a vicious divorce settlement )

Here I must disagree from you. I dont think that was the reason for his withdrawn behaviour from Bani. The real reason was the sense of his guilt over the ONS. Had the ONS not happened possibly he would have asked for an explanation, got it and moved on. Possibly he would have accepted her without bothering for an explanation.

(the trust factor between Jai and Bani weighs heavily in Jai's favour)

To tell u the truth JW has often given her reason to distrust him, the PR raaz for eg deliberately concealing the truth about Kiran's death (unless of course he knew that she had committed suicide or worse, as you suggested in Ajnabee). Bani has post-marriage never given him too many reasons to distrust her.

(unless and untill Jai's name is cleared in the ONS Fiasco)

Have no doubt on that. If I know my Munna, he did nothing, he passed out in Pia's arms with ILU Bani on his lips.

Rgds,

Pri



Edited by majumdar - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Rekha, you have written this beautiful and with much conviction. Every point that you have made makes perfect sense. When the KC night happened, and people wondered why JW was still so distant, I could see that it was his confusion- where in one moment, he felt as if there was nobody in his life, and in the next there were two women that were claiming to love him. If that wasnt confusion then what was?

Bani is still trying to convince her heart on what the truth is. Although it has not been a large amount of time since the revelation of the ONS, it has been an even shorter amount of time that she has found out that Jai was drugged in the first place. She had not even completely coped with the fact that Jai had been with someone else for one night. She had yet to really deal with that it was her sister, and then to be thrown a third curveball that it in fact was not her husbands fault? Its a tough situation to deal with, and a difficult situation to understand.

After going through such a trauma, and although she does now know the truth, it difficult to make her heart understand it, and as you stated, the fact that it is her sister, makes it all the more difficult.

Coming to the issue of her cold and indifferent attitude towards Jai? To a point it still does not make sense. At the dinner table, she felt bad- in fact extremely bad by the looks of it, but that does not mean that she can snap at him later on, especially knowing that he himself is already wallowing in his own guilt. On top of that, she has the knowledge that he was tricked into the whole situation.

Her change in behavior- and sudden change for that matter, could be understandable, but still does not make sense. It does disgust her, no doubt, but it would have disgusted her at every moment, even the dinner table- dont you think?
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mistletoe

If you look at JW's outcasting in a logical sense, you would see that the Creatives are doing it deliberately, cause they know that majority of the viewership is comprised of women who are ga-ga over RK / JW! And hence, making him a Matyr will only help in gaining audience sympathy!

Even though, Bani irritates me for some or the other reason, I still find her to be one of the most sensitive and endearingly loyal Balaji Characters (Females) Even though so much happened, the thought of revenge or marrying someone else to spite JW never even crossed Bani's mind, she was always shown to be in love with him and never even displayed any outburst of temper or insulting him ever, neither when they were alone and definitely not in front of anyone! (Infact she had looked mighty offended when Tarun had picked up a fight with JW in the Office)

What Bani is going through is actually a very natural reaction.....Our mind is conditioned to accept what our eyes see and what our ears listen to.....even though the truth is always spoken from the Heart, we hardly ever seem to listen to it! Bani in her Heart knows, always knew, that Jai coudldn't betray her in this manner but what she has been conditioned to see for the last few days has obviously clouded her mind!

The truth for Bani today is that her husband is Father to her sister's child and that disgusts the life out of her, as it does to us! It doesn't matter how it happened, why it happened or whether it really happened or not, the truth is so bitter and so huge, that Bani is unable to see anything else!

This is very similar to the situation that JW faced a few months back, when Bani had come back into his life (Dubai) Even though Jai accepted her unconditonally, he was distant from her, since his mind seemed to say that this is the same woman who killed their child and claimed a vicious divorce settlement from him and yet his Heart said that, this is the same woman who has loved him more than anyone else in the World! It took time for Jai to see what his Heart told him, despite the fact that both Pushkar and Massi tried their best to give justifications for Bani's actions (Here I do believe, that if they had told the entire truth to Jai, he would have accepted Bani without any apprehensions!)

Bani has been told the truth by Massi and she believes it, but how can she disbelieve what she has been seeing for the last few days? How can you expect Bani to go running into her Husband's arms, when she has seen him throwing the Divorce Papers on her face and claiming that he loves Pia and is the Father of her child?????

If you remember an old episode of KS, where Bani had lied about her Pregnancy to save Anu's honor, Jai had been livid with anger and humiliation and had gone all out to put down Bani and make her life miserable! And mind you, that was a time, when Jai had absolutely no feelings or emotions for Bani, none at all, save, except, affection and trust, but that is it! If the fact that his unwanted, unloved Wife could have a child with some other man had so shaken and shattered Jai, then how can you expect Bani to forgive and forget all that happened between Jai and Pia! Remember, it is not only about Jai fathering a child outside his marriage, it is also about his Fathering a child with Banis' own sister! How it happened is probably immaterial to Bani right away, it happened is all that matters!

Also, as you might know, the trust factor between Jai and Bani weighs heavily in Jai's favour...He has always trusted Bani unconditionally, as opposed to Bani trusting him! That is a fact!

Hence, I feel that unless and untill Jai's name is cleared in the ONS Fiasco, totally, as in its proved that he has not Fathered Pia's child and nothing happened between them that night, Bani will find it impossible to carry on with Jai...More importantly, Jai would find it impossible to carry on with Bani!

But that does not in anyway imply that Bani's love for Jai has gone down in anyway, but she is the sort of woman, who would rather live alone, than live with a doubt in her mind and same goes for Jai!

Rambled a lot with and without reason, if you guys feel same or contrary, please do share your views on this!😊

Love,

MT

MT,

I agree with you that in their one on one realtionship JW has blindly trusted Bani. Even when he had pictures of Bani and oushkar in a hotel room when she was divorcing him he believed in her. Took her back in Dubai without any explanations. Trusted her despite everything she said during the divorce fiasco.

While on the other hand I find Bani has been very inconsistant. She tells all and sundry that he is god and cannot make any mistakes. However, when she suspected him of EMA she only thought otherwise when she saw pia on the CCT video. So I have never been sure if she trusts him. She loves him but not sure about trust.

The last two paras that you wrote is very key. I feel that even thought JW is not guilty of consciously betraying Bani the very fact of the ONS will haunt them and with Pia rubbing in the child in their face 24x7 they will never be able to connect. Also in the PR raaz scenario we saw how guilt ridden JW was even though it was an accident and Bani was not able to get over it. I feel the same scenario will happen here where JW will be too guilt ridden for having impregnated Pia whatever the circumstance being and Bani will never be able to overcome the fact that her sister is pregnant with her husband's child. Which woman would? I realize the Pia baby angle is a good way to move the story forward but the sheer disgust factor is too overpowering. Also they have draggedd the J-B-P angle for 5 months and it has been a disaster. The child being JWs is more of the same and the disgust factor will be higher. I feel for KS to get back on track Pia's child should stop being a factor in the JB relatioship.

Would love the story to become of JW becoming reclusive as he has been betrayed by every relationship he has had (except bani...she has not accused him till date or disowned him). Would love to see how Bani makes him whole again and believe in himself. I feel the JW has been shattered by the events of the past months. Don't need the Pia angle. She can maary sahil and plot to take over WI if we have to have her on our screen.

Have to ask you, is there someone on the creative team that loves the actor who plays Pia. I don't understand how despite such backlash agaist the character we still have her front and center. It's not a love hate relationship with a vamp, it's a turn the TV off when she comes realtionship.

Ok now I will stop rambling.

meghna

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: majumdar

MT,

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(the trust factor between Jai and Bani weighs heavily in Jai's favour)

To tell u the truth JW has often given her reason to distrust him, the PR raaz for eg deliberately concealing the truth about Kiran's death (unless of course he knew that she had committed suicide or worse, as you suggested in Ajnabee). Bani has post-marriage never given him too many reasons to distrust her. i disagree pri, PR was not soemthing which jai would go and tell bani and expect she would understand him and moreover at that time he was planning to divorce her ,so at best he did try to keep quite .

Coming to bani,she never trusted him well to point out a few she suspected him to hav an affair and when she came to know that teh woman at restaraunt was rano and that mob was for pia all doubts vanished!!! Plus cant a business man JW go out for a dinner with a female who can be his associate,friend or client and this lady can go hav jasoos trips all nights

(unless and untill Jai's name is cleared in the ONS Fiasco) It will be a sacred day!!! when he will be given clean chit and that day will come before 19/6 for me.

Have no doubt on that. If I know my Munna, he did nothing, he passed out in Pia's arms with ILU Bani on his lips. Same centiments but again i dont trust this female Ekta😡

Rgds,

Pri



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Posted: 19 years ago
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Very well penned analysis of Bani's behaviour. Her heart and her mind and in conflict with each other right now. While her heart tells her one thing her mind tells her something completely different. Understandably, it is very difficult for her to forget all that she has heard and seen.

Just when a tsunami hits as a natural disaster it takes a while for things to regroup, clear the rubble and life to limp back to normalcy, the same is the situation when a personal tsunami hits. Bani will need time to clear the emotional rubble, process and regroup her thoughts and feelings and then their relationship will slowly limp back towards some kind of normalcy.

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Arch,

(i disagree pri, PR was not soemthing which jai would go and tell bani)

While it was not really criminal on part of JW ( it was accident, he had tried to make amends etc.) to go marry Pia, it was decidely ill-advised on his part to get married to the girl whose Mom he had bumped off.

(Coming to bani,she never trusted him well)

That of course is very true. She claims that her hubby is Bhagwan to her, she has never trusted him. So for Amma to say that JW broke her trust is a bit hypocritical.

(Plus cant a business man go out for a dinner with a female who can be his associate,friend or client)

As a married woman, I can only tell u that I wouldn't be too thrilled if my hubby has going out for a dinner with any woman, even if it is just an associate. 😆

Rgds,

Pri

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