Raanjhaana is really flawed without Dhanush

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starstruckk

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Posted: 12 years ago

I saw this film today. The film belonged to Dhanush - he was brilliant...but honestly, the script/dialogues were really flawed. Also, besides Kundan's character most of the other characters were flawed and you can't really sympathize with them. 😕

Zoya - you get her in the first half..you get that she loves someone else..but after the intermission her character doesn't make much sense anymore. I couldn't connect with her anymore.

Jasjeet - wow, was Abhay Deol wasted in this film or what? 😕 I love Abhay and I knew his role wasn't as big as Dhanush's but, he hardly had any dialogues..any scenes, let alone any significant ones.

Zoya and Jasjeet's relationship? - that made no sense to me either. How does Jasjeet even fall in love with Zoya? their relationship isn't focused on at all. It's shown in bits and pieces and you're trying to figure it out more or less on your own..at least I was.

The first half was good..but all of a sudden in the second half all we see is politics which was hardly focused on in the first half. There was no consistency there..needless to say I felt the direction could've been way better.

I liked Kundan's friends though..their characters were well written, easy to connect with, and written better...but all in all - Dhanush's character had the best dialogues, best character development, was perfectly potrayed by Dhanush and overall the soul of the film. You take him out and Raanjhanna isn't anything brilliant.

Does anyone else feel that this film did well ONLY because of Dhanush because I don't see what else was so special...perhaps the music too? I thought the music was brilliant. always did..but I don't think the film was overall brilliant. I wonder if anyone else thought that? because a lot of people loved the film.

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Posted: 12 years ago

The film is basically from pov of kundan...his narration..its not a direct screen play .we get to see what he conveys to audience. be it his love for zoya..or jasjeet...everything its the way he sees...

that is why there is no proper connection which i find appropriate...coz how can kundan exactly know all the interaction between zoya and jasjeet...he knows only whatever zoya told him ...and likewise he has no clue how jasjeet actually died...so how can they show it..it was strictly his story...all the characters revolving around him

it was one of the best films i have recently seen.so deep n flawed characters...they looked so real..just straight from the streets of benaras...by just watching once u may not be able to catch the nerve of the movie...

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starstruckk

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: nneeiill
The film is basically from pov of kundan...his narration..its not a direct screen play .we get to see what he conveys to audience. be it his love for zoya..or jasjeet...everything its the way he sees...

that is why there is no proper connection which i find appropriate...coz how can kundan exactly know all the interaction between zoya and jasjeet...he knows only whatever zoya told him ...and likewise he has no clue how jasjeet actually died...so how can they show it..it was strictly his story...all the characters revolving around him

it was one of the best films i have recently seen.so deep n flawed characters...they looked so real..just straight from the streets of benaras...by just watching once u may not be able to catch the nerve of the movie...

it is the my most favorite film of the year..have watched it 6 times without getting bored and can watch many more times

I understand that it's from Kundan's point of view..but that doesn't justify a lot of things. For instance, Abhay's character wasn't substantial at all. In fact, I feel they could've gotten any Tom, Dick or Harry for that part. If we go by how this is strictly Kundan's point of view and he couldn't possibly know all the details to Jasjeet-Zoya's relationship..then why couldn't the director/writer include more substantial things for Zoya to talk about when discussing her relationship with Jasjeet? I mean at the end of the day..all my complaints go back to the director or perhaps the writer. It seems as if they focused only on Kundan which is perfectly fine as Dhanush portrayed Kundan so well..but at the same time the other characters lacked depth and you couldn't understand them as well as Kundan. I can speak for myself here at least. I think it all comes down to the director in the end..I feel the direction and even the writing could've been much better.

As I said in my post..take out Dhanush and the film as in the plot, characters, direction, writing has a lot of flaws. Honestly, I don't even think the film would've done this well if Dhanush wasn't Kundan. Moreover, I feel Dhanush's performance hides a lot of the flaws in the film as you tend to overlook a lot of things solely because of him.

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Posted: 12 years ago

I actually liked the 2nd half better coz it moved beyond romance and became a case of atonement and his penance for indirectly being the cause of someone's death.

The best part is that the movie can be seen from various perspectives. Dhanush was brilliant as usual but zoya's character was the best coz she had so many layers unlike any typical girl.

loved the movie, the more time u see, u get to see and think in diff ways

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: tina59
I actually liked the 2nd half better coz it moved beyond romance and became a case of atonement and his penance for indirectly being the cause of someone's death.

The best part is that the movie can be seen from various perspectives. Dhanush was brilliant as usual but zoya's character was the best coz she had so many layers unlike any typical girl.

loved the movie, the more time u see, u get to see and think in diff ways

I didn't hate Zoya's character but I didn't love it as much as I thought I would've..I think that's because in the end, I didn't quite understand where she was coming from?The way she gets brainwashed and does what she does to Kundan seemed very far fetched. 😕 She was lying about Jasjeet to begin with..that was never Kundan's fault. At the end of the day, she was always well aware of the fact that Kundan's only mistake was that he loved her.

It kind of makes one think..what did Zoya even have in her that made Kundan fall hopelessly in love with her?

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Posted: 12 years ago

there are movies who love even with flaws. and raanjhaana is one of them.

dhanush was so fine. brilliant performance.

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Posted: 12 years ago

The film is no doubt flawed..Yes in the politics bit, it loses its focus and requires some suspension of disbelief in a film that is otherwise a pretty real small town love story. But even the politics, I don't think that was the point of the film. Politics was, in my opinion, a means for Zoya and Kundan to go through that growing up journey they both desperately needed...and given their strong personalities, I think they would only learn in big ways too.

I personally loved the flaws and vulnerability of all the characters...made them more real. I disagree on Zoya somewhat. She is a difficult character to really like & her motivations, especially at the end, are harder to understand, but I think she is the most intriguing and layered character of the film (and perhaps of the year also). Kundan wears his heart on his sleeve...his feelings, his devotion, his motivation, everything is clear..he is very intense..of course the film is also told from his POV...Zoya is not so easy to understand. She is self-centered, has a superiority complex, flirtatious, mischievous, warm, affectionate, cold, heartless, bitter... and yet is surprisingly very much like Kundan...just an educated version of him. I think she had to go through the journey she did because she had to grow..she had to be humbled. She had to learn it wasn't all about her. ...and for that, she obviously had to make a huge mistake.

Gotta run, will add more in a bit.

Edited by chocolover89 - 12 years ago

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: chocolover89
The film is no doubt flawed..Yes in the politics bit, it loses its focus and requires some suspension of disbelief in a film that is otherwise a pretty real small town love story. But even the politics, I don't think that was the point of the film. Politics was, in my opinion, a means for Zoya and Kundan to go through that growing up journey they both desperately needed...and given their strong personalities, I think they would only learn in big ways too.

I personally loved the flaws and vulnerability of all the characters...made them more real. I disagree on Zoya somewhat. She is a difficult character to really like & her motivations, especially at the end, are harder to understand, but I think she is the most intriguing and layered character of the film (and perhaps of the year also). Kundan wears his heart on his sleeve...his feelings, his devotion, his motivation, everything is clear..he is very intense..of course the film is also told from his POV...Zoya is not so easy to understand. She is self-centered, has a superiority complex, flirtatious, mischievous, warm, affectionate, cold, heartless, bitter... and yet is surprisingly very much like Kundan...just an educated version of him. I think she had to go through the journey she did because she had to grow..she had to be humbled. She had to learn it wasn't all about her. ...and for that, she obviously had to make a huge mistake.

Gotta run, will add more in a bit.

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Posted: 12 years ago

If I have to Chose best film of 2013 so far I would pick Raanjhaanaa without any Second thoughts. I watched the film 3 times one theater. at the first watch I didnt got the essence of the film fully. So after Second watch I got it.

I know many are saying the Second half Was not good looked like a whole new movie has started in its Second half. I think they wanted to show the extremeness of blind love. and what happens When someone doesnt listen to society's bounds as Dhanush charecter was exactly that.

I liked Dhanush as kundan and Sonam as Zoya. and abhay was good too. but had nothing much to do. the two friends of Dhanush had strong roles.

And the ending was very good. I got goose bumps that time. So This is all about Raanjhanaa the movie Of me.😆

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starstruckk

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: chocolover89
The film is no doubt flawed..Yes in the politics bit, it loses its focus and requires some suspension of disbelief in a film that is otherwise a pretty real small town love story. But even the politics, I don't think that was the point of the film. Politics was, in my opinion, a means for Zoya and Kundan to go through that growing up journey they both desperately needed...and given their strong personalities, I think they would only learn in big ways too.

I personally loved the flaws and vulnerability of all the characters...made them more real. I disagree on Zoya somewhat. She is a difficult character to really like & her motivations, especially at the end, are harder to understand, but I think she is the most intriguing and layered character of the film (and perhaps of the year also). Kundan wears his heart on his sleeve...his feelings, his devotion, his motivation, everything is clear..he is very intense..of course the film is also told from his POV...Zoya is not so easy to understand. She is self-centered, has a superiority complex, flirtatious, mischievous, warm, affectionate, cold, heartless, bitter... and yet is surprisingly very much like Kundan...just an educated version of him. I think she had to go through the journey she did because she had to grow..she had to be humbled. She had to learn it wasn't all about her. ...and for that, she obviously had to make a huge mistake.

Gotta run, will add more in a bit.

yeah Zoya wasn't easy to understand.

I know this may be silly to add as love doesn't always need justifications..but with that said, I felt by the end of the film I was thinking..so what made Kundan fall in love with Zoya to begin with? The director never emphasizes on what makes Zoya special for Kundan because as you said she had her set of issues..she used Kundan for her own personal reasons, screwed him over many times and then basically destroyed Kundan - the guy who more or less dedicated his entire life to this girl. It's as if Kundan clung on to the few moments they shared as kids and apart from that there wasn't much else from Zoya's side at all. I feel had the director shown some endearing/likable characteristics about Zoya somewhere in the beginning/middle, her frustration/anger/bitterness would've made more sense towards the end..all in all, making her somewhat more easier to connect with. During the last scene, I was a bit iffy about where Zoya's character really stood in all of this...and I guess that's probably because in my opinion her character wasn't illustrated as well as it could've been. I could only connect and sympathize with Kundan and that's all because of how well his character was portrayed from beginning to end.

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