Raanjhaana is really flawed without Dhanush - Page 3

Originally posted by: chocolover89

Do you remember what Kundan told Zoya in a fit of anger when her wedding was fixed and she came to thank him? He said something like...its MY talent that I love you so much, it has nothing to do with you. Even if it was someone else in your place, I would love her just as intensely. I think he was telling the truth...Kundan is Raanjhanaa...a crazy intense lover in the truest sense of the word...like a pakka aashiq as they say. Isn't true love anyways when we love someone despite their flaws? Kundan KNOWS Zoya doesn't feel the same way.. she is manipulating him throughout..its not like he never berates her for it either, but at the end of the day, Zoya is his reason for living, he just loves her. Truly, madly, deeply...and practically it makes no sense..but that's just the kind of person he is I felt... The film is about that kind of love...the pure, unadulterated, crazy, intense love that's beyond all logic, caste, creed, socioeconomic status, religious differences everything. That's why..I don't think there is a real answer to "why" Kundan loves Zoya madly...he just does.

Why do you think Bindiya loves Kundan? He treats her in the same way Zoya treats him...of course not quite to that extent, but he does manipulate her, lead her on, and break her heart. I think in this film, you really just have to accept that love is beyond logic. In today's world, we're all so much more practical that it's somewhat of a foreign concept now...its ludicrous that someone can love someone who treats them like Zoya treats Kundan..but again, that's part of the reason why they said we have to take off our "urban city glasses" for this film.. 😆

In a way, Zoya loved Jasjit like Kundan loved her. Kundan was Zoya's Ranjhanaa, but she was Jasjit's Heer.. Yes, she is somewhat to blame for Jasjit's death. She shouldn't have lied to Kundan about Jasjit's identity. Zoya blamed Kundan for being impulsive and ruining her life. Of course he would never have known what it would have led to, but I think her anger is understandable. Then you have to see, her only goal after his death is to make sure his dreams come true..what he wanted as a leader..and even there Kundan unknowingly barges in. She thinks he's taking Jasjit's place...not only did he take Jasjit from her, he's now trying to take the only thing she's living for...Jasjit's memory. So she's obviously even more bitter...like Kundan does things for Zoya, Zoya does them for Jasjit..the CM only gets Zoya to agree by using Jasjit's name.

The end is what's most confusing vis a vis Zoya's feelings and what she says...with duniya thukegi mujhpe if I fall in love with you and all..because that whole speech was a mix of lies and truth...I kinda feel like her resolve to hate Kundan was breaking in Aise Na Dekho and that made her even more angry, with herself. I don't think she only resented Kundan at this point. her feelings are very complex...and human therefore. She is struggling with what she's about to do, whether she cares for Kundan, is there a slight hint of the beginning of something like love and that's why she tries SO hard to push him away...what will the duniya say if she starts caring for the guy who is responsible for her fiance's death? I think its not 100% clear which is perhaps why it's annoying. 😆

I don't think Zoya is badly written. I think she is simply more complex. Kundan is so endearing despite his flaws, that what Zoya does to him automatically makes her villainous..but she's not really a villain. She is a normal girl meant for big things, with big ambitions who gets caught up in the tragedy of life...her one mistake ruins everything for her. Just like Kundan's one mistake ruins everything for him.

Oh my this became WAYYY longer than I meant for it too...apologies 😆

ETA: I do agree that Dhanush is the life of the film as Kundan. He is simply brilliant. Words fail to describe him. He makes you feel and even believe in such a love...that it still exists somewhere. Best actor this year for me, easily!

Originally posted by: starstruckk

Originally posted by: harshu.sundas

Originally posted by: nneeiill

The film is basically from pov of kundan...his narration..its not a direct screen play .we get to see what he conveys to audience. be it his love for zoya..or jasjeet...everything its the way he sees...

that is why there is no proper connection which i find appropriate...coz how can kundan exactly know all the interaction between zoya and jasjeet...he knows only whatever zoya told him ...and likewise he has no clue how jasjeet actually died...so how can they show it..it was strictly his story...all the characters revolving around him

it was one of the best films i have recently seen.so deep n flawed characters...they looked so real..just straight from the streets of benaras...by just watching once u may not be able to catch the nerve of the movie...

Originally posted by: starstruckk

oh no don't apologize..great post..

@ bold: agreed..I found that annoying. I actually didn't see a lot of things from such a perspective. I honestly think that Dhanush's performance as Kundan was so flawless that his character became lovable, real, easy to connect and thus everyone's favorite (including mine)..I actually can't even pinpoint what I disliked about Kundan in any way because Dhanush left no room for that since he was so awesome. As you said Dhanush is just so endearing as his Kundan. While I still wouldn't say I agree with how Zoya's character was written..I liked what you've said about her here...especially how she was Jasjeet's heer which actually makes sense. I think more than anything I think had Sonam performed a tad bit better ..Zoya too would''ve been more memorable, at least for me. While I do think this was Sonam's best performance when compared to her previous ones..I felt she fell flat in many scenes which kind of ruined it. 😆..but then I'd see Kundan and forget all of that..😆

Originally posted by: starstruckk