BEING A FEMALE - ANOTHER SIDE - Page 3

You are asking about bride burning, rape etc. which it is claimed males do on females. But then what do we see these days? 98% of dowry harassment cases are false as admitted by supreme court. And that has been the case since 1970s when the dowry giving-taking was made illegal. And feminists make us believe that a lot of cases of bride burning happen in India and also that every unnatural death of a married women is due to harassment by husbands. It took long to find this is not true and feminists just passed off every female suicides as dowry deaths. Again 75% of rape cases are false. Just we are made to believe lot of bride burnings happened. Also there are reports saying Nirbhaya rape case is totally a make-believe story made up by feminists.

A simple question based on two points. The number of married women and unmarried women committing suicide are almost the same. What is the reason unmarried women commit suicide? And again number of married men suiciding is double the number of married women. If the law has to assume that a married woman ended her life as she was harassed by her husband, why can't the law say a married man ended his life as he was harassed by his wife?

Unfortunately this is not the way of Indian feminists. If you read the text of the law, DV act 2005, you will find how much it is biased against males and how much it is misused also. According to that law, a man who refuses to have sex on anyday could be booked by law. Isn't it harassment on the male? And this act is not gender neutral and feminists welcome it despite we see the law being misused daily and males committing suicide. In fact feminists forced the Govt: to pass this law.

And most importantly, if a man is harassed by his wife he could apply only for divorce. But in India, if a female believes she is harassed, she has fifteen laws and the laws are only misused.

I don't know what is meant by, 'fading tile, chipping paint' etc.

Not that we've got that image in our head, let's begin

2. I will not address your comment one by one again because GO TO STEP 1.

3. There are many things wrong with Indian feminist organizations (crushingly transophobic, LGBTQI exclusion, insisting on a dresscode & victim blaming. I can just hear the faux pity ringing on TV channels with she was asking for it written off in the background) but stomping on men's rights (if you insist on the existence of such a thing when the most privileged of fraction of the pie in India is men) isn't one of them. In fact, I would argue that putting aside the much needed ground work they had done for the rural women, the urban ones are harmed and not helped the practices of such charities (COUNTLESS cases of s**t shaming I tell ya). Whilst the women who make a majority of the demographic they cater to are either poor or live below the poverty line, there are others who have a stable income and their problems are strikingly different from those of the rural women. They do not need to be provided for as much as they need dignity, respect and equal opportunity (not to say the rural population doesn't need dignity but that they have physiological needs to fulfill in order to survive before they can think of such abstracts as respect) . The lobbyists aren't even close to addressing the advanced problems. They cannot think to close the gender gap when other looming disasters such as widespread sexual assault, no education, child marriages, domestic violence and human trafficking threaten to push the status of the majority back decades. The problems you have addressed giving anecdotal evidence are exceptions to the rule. They exist in ridiculously low numbers, often by manipulating laws through well paid attorneys. As much as we would like to think the laws are made to benefit US specifically, they are made for the majority and the majority suffers regardless of the existence of said laws. If you lobby for a mango, you are lucky to get a mango peel in return. If the feminist lobbyists (I am not sure anyone other than UNIFEM is even heard within the corrupt regime but that is beside the point) ask for jail time for primary convict + relatives in a domestic violence case, they are lucky to see the assaulter in jail for his sentenced term. The relatives don't even go that far. Lastly, being soft spoken doesn't take away from the fact that what is wrong is wrong. In a country as big as India, we are never going to have black and white, clear cut outcomes. There is always room for misuse but kindly do not undermine the sanctity of laws that actually help millions by weighing them against the (unverified) plight of a privileged few.

I apologize for starting this type of topic.

Donna, I am not offended by whatever you say.

There are good reasons why I have to apologize. Whatever I said are definitely facts and not some anecdotes I made. The reason the debate becomes not so nice is because this topic is too subjective for me. It may be true the domestic violence law or dowry harassment law is made for people who have genuine problems but myself and my old parents are forced to fight a false domestic violence case slapped on us by my wife which is causing lots of problems for us and if not for the laws, I wouldn't have any trouble. I am not expecting sympathy from any of you. But this way I am makes my participation very different. And so I could not become reasonably objective and this could spoil the beauty of the debate. What happens is while this topic is sensitive for me in a way, it could be sensitive for you all in a totally opposite way and such is the way of male-female issues.

Probably those who debate have to tell based on what they know and not based on what they experience. May be I could go on telling everything I know in this area. But the reason I may tell could be trying to force some opinion on you all based on my experience. That is not healthy of me to do.

Thank you all for providing your opinions in this topic. I may still participate in topics and also start threads but that will be where I am reasonably objective and based on my knowledge and not my specific experience.

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This society looks down upon a man who cannot be responsible enough for his family, fails to bring enough food to the table and fails to deposit enough money in the back account...it's his job to control and manage all of the above because in this system, a woman is considered incapable of handling it...a lack in this department shown by a man, shows his lack of control and in turn brings a bad name for him...

Another outcrop of this society is a so called independent woman, who ultimately prefers and if I may daresay, sometimes uses her minority status for her own advantage..it's much easier for a woman to say I am studying because I love it...a man needs a degree to get a job...and if they don't get it, they are looked down upon...