A very interesting conversation Between Duryodhan

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The name of the Duryodhan's wife was Bhanumati. There is no reference of her in Mahabharata, because of that she was not involved in this theatre. She was simply a housewife. As far as Hindu culture is concerned, she was an ideal wife of her time. She had no FAULT ... in capital letters according to that period.

BUT IN OUR DAYS SHE IS IN PICTURE

Be informed of ground realities of this country:


Are HINDU hosewifes
Wine racks
today do differ from her?

No Not at all.

Do husbands expect the same, what Bhanumati was?

Yes.

But I m ashemed to inform you ,that in our days we don't consider her as a good wife,but a guilty for all.

See a Hindi proverb:

KAHIN KI IINT KAHIN KA RORA, BHANUMATI NE KUNBA JORA.

Let us see word-by-word translation of it:

Bricks from here pebbles from there,and Bhanumati has created a family.

And in a result she was only a lady , who was responsible for creating such a family, which was always in scandals with others.

Shame to those ,who do not know her name and using such an abusive porverb with her name for centuries.

Duryodhan may be guilty, but why Bhanumati is punished for Duryodhan for all these decades.

I have no more words to do some favour for BHANUMATI. Don't you want to know what I want to talk about?' he asked when they were at last alone.
She stared at him, undecided. Recently, she had found him increasingly difficult to predict.
'Yes, my Lord.'
'In fact, it's not I who wants to say something. It is you. For the past few days, you've wanted to say something to

me, but couldn't bring yourself to it. Now, what is it?'
She had heard this tone before, and knew that only the truth, or an extremely clever lie, would satisfy him.

Unprepared, her desire to speak her mind warred with the fear welling in her throat, and she was quiet for a long

time. And when she spoke, her voice was very low, and he strained to hear her.
'It's your uncle, Shakuni. Never speak with him again. For both our sakes.'
To her surprise, his expression did not change; he simply stepped away to carefully inspect a tapestry.
'The time for that has long passed, Bhanumati.'
'He is… he's not a good man, Duryodhan.'
'You think that he means me harm? Has he harmed you?'
'No, and no.' Suddenly, she clenched her fists and spoke angrily.
'Don't pretend you don't know what I mean! He's an evil, evil man! The taint of him chokes my throat, and when I

have to greet him, I want to spit to clean my mouth! I hate it when you go off with him, I hate seeing him

whispering to you in the gardens! He is always somewhere, right where he shouldn't be, always lurking when Radheya

isn't around! He is pestilence, and I hate him!'
Too late, she saw from his twisted smile that he had been deliberate, goading her to this outburst. We always tried

to out-read each other, she thought bitterly. We called it a love game once. But it's twisted into a competition

now. It's his influence, I know it.
She breathed deeply, knowing she had to keep her wits about her. This might be her only chance. But he made me say

it because he's already planned something, she realized. He's planned for me to say this, and he's planned what

he'll do now.
'Alright, Sakuni is a bad, a terrible, evil person. Very well. Who will be my advisor? Who will bring me to the

throne? Radheya? He's loyal, yes, and on the battlefield…'
'Not the battlefield! A political advisor! Someone of the family, with your future interests at heart, someone good

and pure and noble, like, like…'
'Like dear uncle Vidura? Yes, in all my clan, he is the purest and the wisest and the best. And do you know what he

told my father when I was born? "Kill him." he said. "This child will bring the destruction of two kingdoms." Yes.

That is what the wise and good Vidura had to say about the joyous moment of my birth.'
He turned to look at her.
'What if he was right?'
She ignored this. 'You can still change everything. You can change the way it goes. There is an instant. When you

can change things. There is always, always an instant where you can still decide.'
His eyes became almost gentle. 'The time for that is long past, Bhanumati.'
She sensed an opening, and spoke on urgently.
'I know the rumours. About the house, that burned. I know who made you do that. You can still change everything.'
He shook his head sadly, and took both her hands. 'Do you really think that was the first time, Bhanumati?'
She swallowed, and refused to register his words, but he spoke on softly.
'The first time, I was

just a little boy, Bhanumati. A little child, how innocent I must have seemed. But there was murder in my heart. I

remember how scared I was, I remember how my eyes burned from the vapours of the poison. How my tears burned on my

cheeks, how they fell to mix with the poison I prepared, how…'
She tore her hands lose, and held them to her ears, and shook her head violently.
'Stop it, stop it, stop it!'
He grabbed her hands again. 'Look at me, Bhanumati, look at me, your husband, your prince, your king! Look at me!'

He shook her till she quieted. He turned, still holding one of her hands firmly, and stepped over to the dias.

Slowly he began to ascend the steps to the thrones.
'Duryodhan, no! Let me go, just let me go!'
'Ah, but you are to be at my side, always! Join me here on this throne, my lovely queen!'
The playful tone dropped and he shouted.
'Sit down Bhanumati!'
He threw her to the queen's throne, and dropped himself into the king's.
'When my father's dead, you and I can sit here. That's what you want, isn't it? I know that about you. The day we

met, you saw the wrongness in me, didn't you. I saw how you looked at me. You saw the wrongness, and you knew there

was just enough of it to get you a throne. You'll never admit it, but that's what drew you.'
'No, Duryodhan. I do love you.'
He laughed shortly. 'Yes. Through all of it, in our own strange ways, we love each other. But we love other things

too. And strangest of all: I no longer even want a throne anymore. But Shakuni does. My father, for me. And

especially you. None of you will let me step away from it. I'm trapped here.'
He leaned so close she could feel the heat radiating from his face. He spoke very softly.
'You can end it all. Without you at my side, I could still step away. Go, leave me. Go away. Leave behind these

thrones of lies and misery.'
'I can't! I tell you, I can't! My father… our families…! Duryodhan, I love you!'
'You make me so tired, Bhanumati.'
He sat back, and spoke mechanically.
'Feel it Bhanumati. Look about this place. This is the Royal court. We are the king and queen. This is our near

future. Among all these men, we sit here, first.'
He looked across at her.
'Before all things, before happiness, before peace. Before our love. You want this first, don't you? You want to be

first. Isn't that right, my lovely queen?'
Her hands tightened on the arm rest of the throne, and she felt the thrill of it swell in her belly, and she

whispered 'Yes'
She put her face in her hands, and sobbed briefly, and found no comfort in it.
'What's going to happen?'
He shrugged.
'War.'

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Some think Duryodhan was a great Man 😕😕😕😕

here is the link http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/hinduism-forum/25743-duryodhana-great.html

What do you guys think?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree with a comment made about passing judgement and being conditioned to think in terms of only good and evil in differentiating beings. Its a basic way of thinking that ignores the totality of a humans worth.
I read somewhere myself about how Duryodhana compared to the average human nowadays was a better human and that is very telling of this Kali Yuga.
Everything that composited the better side of his being is insurmountable because it was a different yuga altogether. Never mind Arjuna or Vidhur, the average person cant equate to just one good act Duryodhans. Who are we indeed in comparison?
You come to read comments where people are very quick to judge evil, label and target the person of the ancient era who committed a sin and tainted their life without comprehending the ambiguity of Dharma and how it affects each and every person, and this is very common in our age of hypocrisy. I do not in any way intend to glorify Duryodhana, every mistake he made ate away a piece of his humanity but nor should I partake in completely downgrading him due to that, his good qualities had accumulated which we could not even try to overcome through our own life unless you are saintly or truly live a pious, authentic life..
That is why Mahabharat interests us so much, its characters, all of them, contain both the bad and good in them, some more, some less. One act of goodness and worth/capability cannot be equated, we are no match to the relentless determination that Karna had defying against all odds thrown in his path, the limitless generosity of Duryodhan, the earnest, courageous and fine skill of Arjuna, the strength and resilience of Draupadi, just to name a few characters, they were not ordinary but yet retained something that is relatable to every human being to some degree, and compels us to review and reflect on decisions that we make, actions that we take in our life.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: rangeeni

I agree with a comment made about passing judgement and being conditioned to think in terms of only good and evil in differentiating beings. Its a basic way of thinking that ignores the totality of a humans worth.

I read somewhere myself about how Duryodhana compared to the average human nowadays was a better human and that is very telling of this Kali Yuga.
Everything that composited the better side of his being is insurmountable because it was a different yuga altogether. Never mind Arjuna or Vidhur, the average person cant equate to just one good act Duryodhans. Who are we indeed in comparison?
You come to read comments where people are very quick to judge evil, label and target the person of the ancient era who committed a sin and tainted their life without comprehending the ambiguity of Dharma and how it affects each and every person, and this is very common in our age of hypocrisy. I do not in any way intend to glorify Duryodhana, every mistake he made ate away a piece of his humanity but nor should I partake in completely downgrading him due to that, his good qualities had accumulated which we could not even try to overcome through our own life unless you are saintly or truly live a pious, authentic life..
That is why Mahabharat interests us so much, its characters, all of them, contain both the bad and good in them, some more, some less. One act of goodness and worth/capability cannot be equated, we are no match to the relentless determination that Karna had defying against all odds thrown in his path, the limitless generosity of Duryodhan, the earnest, courageous and fine skill of Arjuna, the strength and resilience of Draupadi, just to name a few characters, they were not ordinary but yet retained something that is relatable to every human being to some degree, and compels us to review and reflect on decisions that we make, actions that we take in our life.



beautifully said 👏 which is why we relate to mahabharat more rather then hollywood and bollywood movies Mahabharat to us is more real rather then virutal world of Movies where heroes are good and villains are bad

But Mahabharat teaches us every step of our lives 👏 good evil bad sin punya pashchtap everything

But it is human nature to glorify good and discard bad somehow one bad act makes us forget 1000 goods and that also for a long long time even if sadiyan beet jaye 😆
but that's life and let us not forget it that Rishi muni Sage like Ved Vyas wrote such beautiful sacred texts which continue to teach us since million of years and since then humans have not learned anything 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Duryodahn and his wife Bhanumati

Duryodhana's wife Bhanumathi s role is very insignificant in Mahabharatha. She wasn't strong enough to fight against Duryodhana's "adharmic deeds". Still she reminds Duryodhana to give respects to Krishna and listen to his words when he approached the Kauravas with a peace treaty. It was Krishna's last attempt to stop the Kukshetra war. Bhanumathi is described as "satiratna" in mahabharatha. She is pictured as a model of wife who is ready to sacrifice anything for the happiness of her Husband, who tried to keep her husband away from the path of Adharma. Mandodari and Bhanumathi are two women characters of Hindu Puranas who were against Adharma done by their Adharmic husbands.

Duryodhan & Bhanumati Duryodhan! Duryodharn!, Shakuni came shouting hurriedly in the corridors of grand palace of Hastinapur ruled by scion of Kuru dynasty Dhritrashtra looking for Gandhari's eldest son. What is it Mama Shakuni ? You appear to be in very good mood. What's the matter ? asked Duryodhan. Bhanje Duryodhan, I have a very good news for you. King Chitrangad, the king of Kaling has organized Swayamwar for his beautiful daughter, Princess Bhanumati. And the best part is you don't need any skill. The only qualification is you should be a strong prince. Duryodhan was physically strong and trained in Malyudh by balarama. Even though, Chitrangad had organized Swayamwar, he wished Bhanumati wed prince of Kuru clan. Duryodhan, the prince of Hastinapur, was burning in fire of jealousy ever since he lost Draupadi, the queen of beauty, to Pandavs. Arjun, an excellent archer, married Draupadi by winning archery contest organized by Draupadi's father Drupad. Later, as fate would have it, Draupadi married all five Pandavs. Duryodhan's joy knew no bounds. Duryodhan decided to take his strongest friends Karna and Ashwathama along with him to swayamwar. He decided to take his army along since he had a secret plan. King Chitrangad, lavishly welcomed Duryodhan, befitting one of the most powerful prince of Bharatvarsh. Among the galaxy of other princes who were welcome by Chitrangad were Jaydrath, Shishupal, Dandhar and Shrugalraja. In the grand golden hall, King Chitrangad had assembled more royal family princess than Panchal king managed in Draupadi's swayamwar. He addressed the assembled royalty explaining how Swayamwar would proceed. He made it clear there is no contest to win Bhanumati. Bhanumati will decide her fate by choosing the man of her choice among the assembled princes by garlanding the one of her choice. She does not have to look at all of them. If she finds one before looking at all then that's her husband and that point the decision is final. Bhanumati's closest friend will introduce each of the prince

as she traverses royal court. As the swayamvar began, Bhanumati first noticed Jarasandh. She seemed to ignore him and briefly looked at Shishupal. She expressed disgust on looking at him. Next, she passed by Duryodhan hardly noticing him instead she was attracted to Karn who was sitting right next to Durodhana, due to his impressive physique and aura of divine ear rings.Duryodhan was upset. He thought this the time. He lifted Bhanumati like one would steal flower from someone's garden hurreidly. He challenged all the princes to stop him if they can. He justified his act by saying this is what his great grand father Bhishma did ith his grand mothers. He carried her to his chariot with his army and started approaching towards Hastinapur. Meanwhile, Karn was left to fight with other prince. The first prince to accept challenge to fight was super strong Jarasandh.Karn defeated Jarasandh. No other prince came forward to fight. As Duryodhan's army reached Ganges flowing through Hastinapur from Kashi, the people of Hastinapur celebrated Duryodhan's wedding. After marriage, Bhanumati came to know about Duryodhan's jealousy with Pandavs. She decided that since she was not able to marry Karn she will make sure Duryodhan's life is ruined. So she always used to speak against Pandavs along with Duryodhan. Later, she realized it is in her best interest to not to think of revenge. She decided to support her husband in every way she could including bashing Pandavs.She used to ask openly why are Pandavs called Pandavs if they were not born of king Pandu ? Her other frequent question was why should Pandavs get any share at all since the sons of Dhritrashtra are physically fit ? Such bitter questions were posed to Kunti. Duryodhan was happy with her wife and many years passed.

Regarding Karna his wife was Vrushali,another saarthi's daughter.They had a very happy and content married life according to Mrutyunjay.they had 4 sons, and unfortunately all of them were killed by Arjun,one during Draupadi's swayamvar and the rest in mahabharat. He married one more lady,who was very close to Bhanumati,and Bhanumati had requested for this marriage on insistance of her friend. Duryodhanas wife Bhanumathi and is called "satiratna" in mahabharatha. She shown as a model of wife who is ready to sacrifice anything for the happiness of her Husband..

This is shown during the time of marriage of Subhadra. She gets ready happily to agree for the marriage of Subhadra with Duryodhana when Balaram proposes subhadra for Duryodhana.

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