Hindsight : Shilpa was it about racism?

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LONDON: Shilpa Shetty's presence on the reality TV show Celebrity Big Brother has yet again left British television broadcaster Channel 4 with a sorely red face and a desperate need to apologise with the station forced to admit it had given wrong advice to the public about telephone votes to "save" the actress from eviction.

In actual fact, C4 admitted on Friday, the telephone votes for Shetty would have led to her eviction from the Big Brother house, 48 hours before the show wraps up.

Shetty and four other housemates are up for the standard, staged, reality TV high drama called "live eviction" (on Friday night). But the actress is considered the British public's odds-on favourite to stay on in the house and win the show overall on Sunday. If Shetty wins, she is likely to become a sterling-multi-millionaire almost overnight with a slew of offered film and TV deals, fitness DVDs, cookbooks, an autobiography and a role as race relations ambassador.

The show's producers have already been forced to deny they wanted to drive events to crown Shetty with victory and sweet success. But TV critics said the cameras did appear to linger on Shetty longer than on any other contestant during the day-long live screening of life in the Big Brother house.

C4 said it had scrapped all the public telephone votes cast till Friday for the eviction because an on-screen blunder had unwittingly caused it to ask the public to dial a phone number to "save" Shetty. But that would have been a vote to evict the actress from the show, the channel said.

It added that the voiceover correctly said a public vote for Shetty would work towards her eviction but the end result was total viewer confusion with respect to the actress.

The broadcaster said it had cancelled thousands of eviction votes cast till Thursday night and in yet another huge putative payout inadvertently centring around Shetty, it said it would refund all the calls made by members of the public to premium rate phone lines costing at least 50p or more. It said proceeds from the reopened eviction poll would go to charity.

This is the second time in seven days that Shetty has been put up for eviction from the Big Brother house. It is also the second time C4 has been forced because of Shetty to donate the lucrative telephone eviction vote proceeds, estimated at roughly half-a-million pounds, to charity.

Last Friday, the broadcaster had been forced hastily to announce it would donate the earnings from the Shetty vs. Jade Goody eviction vote to charity. The channel had tried to reclaim the moral high ground after being accused it was making money out of racially-charged 'manufactured' events on the show, which led Shetty to be allegedly bullied by Goody and abused because of her ethnicity.

Do you still beleive this was about racism?

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Posted: 19 years ago
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what's wrong with the VOTES Management 😡 😡 one thing or the other. this is 7th season for crying out loud! This is all staged I think.

I am so sick of the whole drama.

shilps's own statements have confused me. the ones where she admits not being subjected to racial slur.

why go on such shows where the contestants do not represent viwpoint of any community / society except for themselves?

why should a country make such a big deal about on actress who is ROLLING IN MONEY whether she gets evicted or not!

Is she really making our country proud?

Racial ambassador? Give me a break! That just makes GOODY a person of VITALITY. who cares what C**P she speaks?

have we hypocrites gone NUTTZ making such a big deal about racial injustice agianst shilpa??? The whole aussie team uses constant racial blur caught on tape. When so we boycott Cricket against australia?? NO.. we'll die if we did that!
😡 😡

PS. sareg, if you wanted only detailed remarks about voting mess (hanging chads on phone) please let me know and i will delete the rest of the verbal diaorrhea . 🤢
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Was Jade Goody a victim of class prejudice? Hasan Suroor RACE OR class? Take your pick whether it was one or the other — or both — that sparked the Jade Goody-Shilpa Shetty rumpus on the Celebrity Big Brother show, but make no mistake that the explosion of moral outrage over Ms. Goody's behaviour was driven largely by class prejudice. In fact, the real story is not so much about what happened to Ms. Shetty as what happened — and is happening — to Ms. Goody, and why. Over the past week, Ms. Goody has been subjected to a level of personal vilification that is unprecedented and the line of attack has invariably shifted to her working class origins — to the argument that despite her recent makeover and a 8 million portfolio she is not "one of us." To anyone who has followed the "debate" closely, it is obvious that she is seen as an embarrassment by her more cultivated compatriots, especially the Oxbridge set in the media and at Westminster. We are told that the reason why Ms. Goody picked on Ms. Shetty had nothing to do with race ("poor thing doesn't even know what race is") but with her own sense of social and cultural inadequacy vis--vis the "posh" film actor from Bollywood. She may have seemed like behaving in a racist fashion, but — the argument goes — it was actually a class thing and her seeming racism was borne out of class-induced ignorance. It was not racism in the "normal" sense of the word. It was the racist rant of a woman from the "lower depths" of British society who simply could not stand the "dignified," "graceful," and "soft-spoken" (all signs of her high class background) Ms. Shetty. And Ms. Shetty, of course, fuelled her tormentor's inferiority complex by constantly harping on her own culturally superior upbringing. "Class Vs Trash" ran the headline in one British newspaper and The Sun, which may be wrong in many respects but certainly knows what Middle England wants to hear, branded her as a "vile, ignorant, racist bully." Time and again in the past week, we have been reminded about Ms. Goody's "lowly" class — or what some have called "underclass"— origins: her (Jamaican) father, who died of drug overdose in 2005, was in and out of jail and abandoned the family when Jade was just two. She was brought up by her mother who herself "used to be hooked on pot" as newspapers gleefully recalled last week with details of her various relationships and "wild" lifestyle. Jade was thrown out of school after her mother apparently hit a teacher, and she grew up amid juvenile delinquents, pimps, and drug addicts in a latter-day version of Dickensian London. "With a background like this, how else do you expect her to behave?" asked one commentator. There have been jokes about her fragile grasp of anything remotely approaching literacy (on one occasion she could not even spell her own name); her pathetic general knowledge (how she thought Cambridge was in London, East Anglia was "abroad," and Saddam Hussein was a boxer); her "vile" tongue; and "disgusting" manners. She has been called vulgar, foul-mouthed, mocked for the way she speaks (Ms. Shetty haughtily suggested that she needed elocution lessons); and accused of bringing Britain's image into disrepute. It became a "Jade Vs the Rest" issue with Chancellor Gordon Brown, who was on a visit to India, issuing a public appeal to his countrymen and women to kick her out of the CBB house to show their anti-racist credentials. The picture we have been presented is that of a woman who is an aberration in a multicultural and otherwise racially tolerant Britain where everyone supposedly respects everyone else's sensitivities. In other words: remove Ms. Goody from the scene and Britain would be a model of racial harmony. Her eviction from the show last week was hailed as multi-racial Britain's victory over prejudice and bigotry with 55 per cent of Britons saying, in a poll, that Ms. Goody's behaviour did not represent "modern Britain." Again, the subtext was: don't mistake modern Britain for Ms. Goody. But the truth is that modern Britain is teeming with future Ms. Goodys — growing up on the same sort of inner-city sink estates that produced Jade Goody. In East London alone, as The Independent columnist Johann Hari pointed out, there are "children — white, black and brown — who don't have a bedroom but instead sleep on the kitchen floor... [and] families of six crammed into damp two-bedroom flats, with mildew climbing the walls." Should we be surprised if they grow up to be like Ms. Goody: ignorant, foul-mouthed, blighted by prejudice and, when the occasion arises, ready to pounce on someone "posh" like Ms. Shetty?

The point is not whether Ms. Goody should have been condoned for her behaviour which, no doubt, was covertly racist but the manner in which she was targeted and subjected to personal attacks with constant references to her class. Would we have witnessed the same sort of moral hysteria if the person who persecuted Ms. Shetty was someone "like us"? And those who argue that it was only someone like Ms. Goody who could have behaved the way she did is to confirm our class prejudices.

https://www.hindu.com/2007/01/25/stories/2007012503441100.htm

Coming back to my views on this topic.

I still feel this issue of shilpa Shetty is not an issue at all.Big brother or Big Sister or Big Daddy shows are just junk shows.Those shows are a good platforms for not so big junk actors.These shows don't really depict their personality!!

What is this format !!! Putting all people men and women in One house and leaving them like that.BTW they are not there for Prayers of Some Satsang to do Bhajans to speak only respectable words.So these type os issues like "using bad language" is a part of the show.The contestants also shed gallons of tears😡!!!

This is all what happens when set of brainless fools are left in an isolated place.But much much more 🤢dirty thing is audience reacting to that junk issues.Audience should not react they should just watch it for fun.

People are also very mean,they don't react to Killings of Noida immediately but they really cry ,break their heads for Sourav Ganguly or ASH-ABHI!!!

Vinash Kale Viprit Bhuddhi!

Cheers,

Mythili

PS:For these type of views expressed already I got Several rewards in another post !!! Sareg Bhayya rescued me

Edited by mythili_Kiran - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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dont we hab better things to discuss or react ?? ......
nobody reacts to serious issues ....... like noida killings where innocent children were killed ...... but react to such trivial issues which r of no concern to general public !!! 😡

if at all they had reacted the same way to the motto case , or jessica lal murder case then justice wouldnt have been delayed for this long ........ they r serious issues .... not the issues as to whether ash n abhi marry , shilpa in big brother show and blah blah .......
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: nishi

dont we hab better things to discuss or react ?? ......
nobody reacts to serious issues ....... like noida killings where innocent children were killed ...... but react to such trivial issues which r of no concern to general public !!! 😡

if at all they had reacted the same way to the motto case , or jessica lal murder case then justice wouldnt have been delayed for this long ........ they r serious issues .... not the issues as to whether ash n abhi marry , shilpa in big brother show and blah blah .......

Wellsaid👏👏👏!!!!

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

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what's wrong with the VOTES Management 😡 😡 one thing or the other. this is 7th season for crying out loud! This is all staged I think.

😆😆😆
how could the channel throw out a contestant that was raking up enough publicity and money hence the whole set up. actually these are the people who threw the rebelious trio to sharks. almost reminded me of the greek gods who would play with humans for fun.
I am so sick of the whole drama.

shilps's own statements have confused me. the ones where she admits not being subjected to racial slur.

i think she was trying to be politically correct and maintain/cement her image of a softspoken, graceful being who was forgiving and stood serene against all insults(odds). if she had fought back, people would not have been so symapathetic to her so called plight.

why go on such shows where the contestants do not represent viwpoint of any community / society except for themselves?

BB is a reality show that thrives on sickly and insulting behaviour of its contestant.in fact it is the shock factor that makes so popular...blame it on our secret facination with vile and disgusting.. shilpa went on it knowing the odds and what to expect for a hefty sum of money. i fail to see what the hue and cry was about.on the other hand(based on second hand experiences),england does have a racial attitude and in current political atmosphere, i think asians living there took the opportunity to bring the whole racial issue in public view in a way that nobody could find excuses for it or deny it.

why should a country make such a big deal about on actress who is ROLLING IN MONEY whether she gets evicted or not!

BLAME IT ON OUR LOVE OF BOLLYWOOD🤢

Is she really making our country proud?

yes , she is if you can find pride in the fact that she used an opportunity to make truckloads of money, become a known face, revive her career and yet be politically correct and be considered graceful.i think she should open up a college to train future politicians and business tycoons.


Racial ambassador? Give me a break! That just makes GOODY a person of VITALITY. who cares what C**P she speaks?

have we hypocrites gone NUTTZ making such a big deal about racial injustice agianst shilpa??? The whole aussie team uses constant racial blur caught on tape. When so we boycott Cricket against australia?? NO.. we'll die if we did that!
😡 😡



PS. sareg, if you wanted only detailed remarks about voting mess (hanging chads on phone) please let me know and i will delete the rest of the verbal diaorrhea . 🤢

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Sympathy factor or a threat of lawsuit maybe..She had to win ...!!!! .I doubt it if Shilpa would have won had it not been for the racism fiasco.!!!!! So in a way she is laughing all the way to the bank. Why should anyone care?
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Originally posted by: lighthouse


Sympathy factor or a threat of lawsuit maybe..She had to win ...!!!! .I doubt it if Shilpa would have won had it not been for the racism fiasco.!!!!! So in a way she is laughing all the way to the bank. Why should anyone care?

I agree with Pravina ji(only on this issue)

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: mythili_Kiran

I agree with Pravina ji(only on this issue)



exactly!! Every proud Indian should thank jade for giving them a chance to be so proud because of shilpa's victory on Big Brother!

There was the great MLKjr and now we have Shilpa filling in the big shoes! 🤢 whatever.. @ people trying to make her racial ambassador! It is just a reality show. Only when she can show that she can stand up against people debasing her for her color in the REAL world, then I'll bother to be proud.


Edited by mermaid_QT - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: lighthouse


Sympathy factor or a threat of lawsuit maybe..She had to win ...!!!! .I doubt it if Shilpa would have won had it not been for the racism fiasco.!!!!! So in a way she is laughing all the way to the bank. Why should anyone care?

If I can get 100000 pounds out of sympathy just tell me how pathetic i need to be.......😊 to invoke that sympathy......

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