Purani Soch or Dakiyanoos Soch !!!!- Page 2

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Posted: 13 years ago
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No Uma, I don't mind the debate.

You keep showing me what Bhabho thinks and that it is right from her IDEALOGICAL POINT, but I feel we have so many other common daily grind examples who can quash her down with their ideological point.

All it takes is NOT to LISTEN to CRAP propagated by Women like Bhabho.
Yes, those woman who raise voices against people like Bhabho, get gang raped or men who raise their voices will get Khaap judgements and get killed. But the point of such sick state of mind with terror controlling people's minds is a consequence of people themselves remaining MUTE for long. People allowed others to oppress them, to suppress their minds.

The cases pf Bhabhos and Khaaps are not the same in quantity as much as we have good examples in our country. We can learn positivity from them too.

If there was not an ounce in the beliefs that my country of its traditions does have some inherent good, I would soon think our country to become like Somalia...with factions fighting over each other for stupid reasons.

INSPITE of all this debate, like Arvind Kejriwal exposing all scams of the Government, I still have only one concern left that ails me so bad.

Who was going to take away the deep seated fear in Chavi's mind about the punishment from Bhabho ? Who is going to say Chavi...Don't be scared...its not wrong that you accidentally stepped on vadiyaan, that is okay if you find economics tough but you need to study and not be on phone or doing nails...that is this really a fear you are projecting or also your laziness and escapism from work that you are trying to cover up.

For me the problem remained there itself.

IN reality, my country's Ruling Janta is corrupt and no one can punish them.
In Fiction at least, can I have some respite with people being reprimanded for their wrong ?!!!!

That is my need. This is Fiction. This is based on some reality. And it needs to have Poetic Justice served on the platter.

Patience from 2 years for someone to say ...Chavi, Mohit do not lie. Do not throw Sandhya under the bus. Vikram...its not good to cheat your own brother and mother.

Politicians can go scot free.

But seeing these people go scot free on TV is just too much. Keeps reminding me those old time Black and white movie melodramas of family Injustices, but it used to be just 2 and a half hour story.

At least in Rival Channel, in like soap, they show bad traditions being canvassed to be put an end to bad practice. Here...evil just keeps brewing and brewing. Its not healthy.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@SD and Umaji nice debate. The only issue I have with Bhabo is " she started with Sach ki ladayi. So she has to be base minimum truthful. That's only my point. I dont want her to support IPS, but I dont want her to feel morally right as she knew both those matkas were broken not for Sandhya's mistake. I mean if that is shown her character is gone. It becomes too crooked like the saas bahu drama. I had admired Bhabo for her idealogical stand, but nothing of that idealogy left in her. I only see a egoistic , self centred woman who by hook or crook wants to control RP and expects Sandhya to protect the lies and treachery of her family members.
I guess this was the reason they made Babasa hear it. If Bhabo alone had heard it she would have kept quiet. Since Babasa is involved he might not allow her to keep the truths to herself. He will plant that guiltiness in her in Monday's epi.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Same here Shruti. That's why I titled my post like that. Being truthful was traditional principle and is also evergree principle. But all she does is quell Truth of the Time...be it her children's growing personal issues due to their lies and scams to their own-self-detriment or be it opposition to her only son who turned out well without much of her help, education and is ready to die for her. She manipulates Truth big time just to prove to all she was right.

Thank you.

And...


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Uma,

No matter how terribly am upset with Bhabho's dakiyanoos soch as in SELF-RIGHTEOUS Thinking, I will have to weigh in your argument towards the story.

But my complaint with STAR TV and DABH team is that

They are over-doing Bhabho's Self-righteous thinking. She gets to have max airtime in the drama.

In the name of standing antagonistic to Sandhya and Sooraj for their Nayee Soch, they are staking simple plain old truths of maintenance within family.

Speaking Lies is not a tradition that Bhabho can uphold. How can she not ask Sandhya for shielding those who speak lies ? Where is her reprimand in that case. She neither teaches her daughter to speak truth nor she gives liberty to her DIL to teach her daughter to speak truth.

So is the case with each SCAM revealed in the story. Which tradition in India says that scammer should be shielded.

They are clearly not showing TRADITIONAL OPPOSITION to NEW THINKING by repeated plotlines of LIES and SCAMS.

As regards to Purani Soch versus Nayee Soch, the track of Fake Baba, Ankur-Ankita' Baby's **ceremony and Meena's Baby Swapping are the only three cases in that direction.

The only characters from Purani Soch who are shown moving towards Nayee Soch are Babasa and Sooraj. Babasa has coined a Sravan Kumar DIL in today's episode and Sooraj in Satyavaan and Savitri Story...showed what else Savitri was capable of by extending his skit in the show. They are two persons who are supporting Sandhya from the days of Throw Trash in Dustbins.


But BHABHO...is clearly not about upholding PURAANI SOCH or Traditions in which she grew up. While the HYPOCRISY angle that you have presented which explains the Bhabho's prudishness in becoming Self-righteous in her thinking, and that she has turned Purani Soch into self-benefitting Self-Righteous thought, how about her simple motherly thoughts for Traditional reasons that she needs to correct her wayword sons and daughters. Who speaks lies like that all the time.

To say that lying is a common problem, stealing is a common problem, swindling people is age old problem...and hence a Puraani Soch...I cannot make heads and Tails of it.


If STAR's Vision is Rishte Wohi Soch Nayi

Then only two characters are upholding it.
Babasa and Sooraj...Primarily Sooraj as he approaches Sandhy who is the Nayee Soch maintaining all the Traditions of all the Rishte.

What about rest of characters ?
All these characters fine keep testing Sandhya...then that means in each fight with Sandhya, Sooraj and Babasa should be supporting Sandhya. Yes they support her, but where is that CHANGE PROCESS of SOORAJ TRICKLING DOWN on HIS SIBLINGS ?????? When people change, they are able to tell others why Change is better. SO in that sense, Sooraj should have started teaching his Sibs about good things he finds about Nayee Soch.


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In the name of Nayee Soch and Wohi Rishte...the story just keeps ridiculing Nayee Soch and never ever corrects the so called SELF-RIGHTEOUS People of the Show. Never.

And I am not even asking for Punishment. I want at least one by one people changing with Bhabho to be the last one to change. She is a hypocrit and so she need not even change...she would rather be shamed and boxed(read snubbed) to accept change. All I care is for a start, please have Vikram, Chavi and Mohit start changing one by one in bits and pieces. Please show the story where they land in hardships by their own self-righteous ignorant thinking and they weepingly tell Bhabho that it is because of her thinking today they have lost.

When is that gonna happen.

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Sometimes I just remain confused what I am watching ?

A girl's story who want's to be an IPS Officer ?
A husband's story who wants to see his Wife become an IPS Officer ?
Its a story of Nayee Soch Rishta Wohi ?
or its just Timepass of throwing CRAP at our face just to watch Lies, Scams and Hypocrisy having a GAY Time with Free Pass to STAR WORLD.



Awesome analysis. I think the answer to your (and ours also) agony is in last para of this post.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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well, I believe the most difficult task is to change somebody's thinking..in serial's it's still faster but in real life, people like Bhabho refuse to adapt or accept or change...

today, when I saw the episode (Friday's repeat), I was shocked to hear Bhabho's decision 😆 but then, as explained by Uma, expecting anything better from her is useless...I hope she now understands that she is responsible for Chavi, Meena, Vikram , Mohit and Emily's lies...not that she cannot see their true faces...all of them are lowly characters and managed to fool Bhabho...so with this revelation, Bhabho is convinced that Sandhya will be able to keep the moron family together as she's smart , sacrificing and ideal..yeah, Bhabho might be having that superiority complex in her ke she is smart and after her, Sandhya will take up her crown ! 😆

The main theme of DAB is Sooraj being the diya to Sandhya and her being baati to him..so both of them fighting together against all odds to fulfill each others dream is what the audience like..and then we have the cliche portrayal of the "ideal" bahu here..How Sandhya successfully handles her career and house, Bhabho making it all the more difficult for her, Sooraj helping her, others mocking at her helplessness..and the cycle continues..basically purani & dakyanooshi soch exist in the form of Bhabho, nayi soch is carried forward by Sandhya and Sooraj, rest all r the opposing elements and some like Bhabasa who are flexible..

Edited by _charu_ - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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My heartiest congratulations to 0-SD-0 for basically questioning the quintessentials of this fake drama, not to forget the other participants who have heartily aired their views.

Purani soch...the old school of thought now that is debatable. Ancient india empowered women (non of that Manu ranting...of course as many of you might just jump to the occasion), but have a look at the scriptures and the ancient monumentas andd a wife stands by her man all tall and strong. She is the shakti and she is the power, those familiar with the South Indian temples also are aware of the concept of "ardhnarsiwar" woman equated to God.

So wish that the serial had really stuck to purani soch, not to forget that teh status of women folk in the so called BIMARU states had degraded in the medivial era too.

Anyways a thoughtful topioc and ermmm...;time to ponder!

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