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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: SS88

Sonali, as Newbiesoapfan said, is a loose end. I can't understand her motives either, did she change his name because she realized he was married, or did she already know that and decided to create a rift? See right now, if we see things from Manav's perspective, you can't call him a dikra. All he;s seen is his mum making as many adjustments as CC, plus this whole Manav Nagar/Borisagar thing just added more to the confusion. And CC is not some silly naive girl, she's seeing through Uma's sugar coated barbs, only because she knows something is fishy. Uma has managed to alienate her from her husband, but this girl is a fighter, and she wont sit in a corner and shed tears .She'll go and look for more proof, and as they say in Hindi cinema- all criminals leave behind some proof of their crime. So, let the games begin!
P.S. I dont think she immersed the ashes, I think that empty pot is a hoax, and she's going to help Dadaji get closure. Thereby, becoming his darling.


Actually, I agree ... from Manav's perspective, you can't call him a dikra ... he is going by what he sees, and all he sees is his mom being extra sweet to Chhanchhan and bending a lot of rules for her comfort. She has allowed the salwar suits, he doesn't know she manipulated the other bahus not to wear them ... she allowed them their honeymoon, he doesn't know she manipulated Ranjana and CC to get it cancelled ... she has allowed Puchpuch to be brought ... and even stood up to babuji for that ... And all very sweetly and pleasantly with a big smile on her face.

CC's suspicions are aroused ... she has been noticing things all along, but went along quietly ... she saw the complete turnaround by Ranjana on the saree issue, she saw Umaben at the doghouse, which is when she first suspected Umaben was not as happy as she claimed to be ... and now this last Sonali issue has cemented things. It's not a one off ... she is smart and she has been noticing everything all along, including the way Umaben made her make dinner alone one day, breakfast alone for Dadaji ... seen alone, none of these things were anything to argue about ... but now that her suspicions are aroused, they will all add up. And she is not the type to sit in a corner and cry ... or be sacrificing and give up ... she will face the situation and try to get to the bottom of it.

Sonali's side ... Umaben is not thinking ahead at all. If - for arguements' sake, she does succeed in breaking up the ChanMan marriage, or even managing a separation, then produces Sonali as the candidate for second wife for Manav, that itself will be enough to tell Manav that all Chhanchhan's suspicions about Umaben were well-founded ... and that will be the end of Sonali.

If Sonali has any sense, even she will realise that she has lied to Chhanchhan and Manav about her fiance's name, so if Umaben does make her meet Manav again then Manav will also know she lied. Unless Umaben plans to make Manav agree to the rishta without even seeing Sonali ... possible, as he did agree the first time round to marry a girl of his mom's choice. But why would Sonali agree? She knows now who Manav is, and that he will recognise her.

That is why I feel Sonali is the dark horse here. She did not know Manav was married, she listened to Umaben's description of CC with a very ambiguous look on her face ... and all she said was - I will do as you are saying.

So I will wait for Sonali to be clarified further.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hi Diya

Good take on the episode ...
Didn't see ur Post last night n I thiught even ur on a vacation like Diana 🥱

Hmm hubby-wife fight ...part n parcel of being married n unknowingly does become a part of the marital bliss ...shaadi KA laddo ..Jo khaaye pachtaaaye aur Jo na khaaye Woh bhi pachtaaaye ...😆

UB is UPTO her cheap tricks agn and DADAJI is well in for a shock 😲

But the turning point will be Sonali 😛


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Nice post Diya. . 👍🏼


Not sure about Sonali's intentions. .loved the way manav directly asking UB about CC if she is happy or not. .he doernt spare UB once he comes to know the truth. .

I think CC is holding the dummy kalaash. .its just to wake up Dadaji from his delusion. .
Once he accepts the truth, he will only immerse it. .

Looking forward for today's episode. .
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: princessunara

ah fabulous take di..

except even now I don't believe Manav has been dikrafied..hehe funny isn't it considering I was one of the first to jump at his throat at every such trait he displayed..
well he has redeemed himself in my eyes.. so well he is no dikra even now..

in fact while dikra's trust mummy blindly he trusted his wife blindly!! and well right now he thinks that trust was broken..thus he is lashing out as he was hurt too..he will surely regret it when he learns the truth but till then he is reacting as any sensible person would..

Anyway omg the tension in the room was WOW!! seriously that scene took the whole episode to a different level!
Be it the precise cutting dialogues,,body language, actions, reactions.. everything was so perfectly apt! the tension was building so think that u could practically cut it with a knife! it was tangible watching it from outside!!
ahhh fabulous execution and direction and Sanaya & Anuj nailed it!! WOW!!

aahhh I am absolutely loving this and I am gonna kill someone at the end of this week when that stupid 3 day weekend comes and its not there! they better start airing it 5 days a week soon! I cannot not watch it for 3 freaking days! that is cheating!!

ps: hehe had a good laugh seeing urs n Ash di's analysis on Bwology! 🤣


True, Sunara ... that bedroom scene was brilliant ... their expressions were perfect ... especially Sanaya's face ... she looked downcast, upset and yet determined and firm on her stand ... their dialogues were also really good ... the tension was tangible. Excellent acting there by both 👏👏👏

Manav has not been dikrafied ... but he's taking his upset with Chhanchhan a bit too far ... she thought something, she told him, he disagreed ... end of story! Not talking to her the whole day and night is carrying it a bit too far - making a mountain out of a molehill!
But I guess they have to show the ChhanMan tension building ... plus she has said it before, he disagreed earlier too ... so it has been building up ...

Like I said ... both are right in their own way ...

LOL ... BWology ... BW and Tv have re-written most of the medical textbooks many times over! 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i enjoyed the episode
want to dedicate the episode to dadji , he was very good in it whether be the kheer eating process where he was offering the kheer to dadi 😊 or the last scenewhere he could not find Dada Ji ashes
hated Manav attitude , one misunderstanding and he has become angry young man
the clock scene in the room was also good
overall a nice episode
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: showviewer

Agree with you Diya, the creatives did deliver another good episode. The show has definitely taken a turn for the better and keeping fingers crossed and hoping this is just the start.


My favorite parts today were ChanMan scenes... very well conceived and executed. I especially liked the bedroom scene, the dialogues were good, but the one before UB comes was so well enacted, no dialogues just with looks and body language both actors conveyed their emotions, both getting up together to open the door and sitting and then again getting up really well directed and acted.

UB definitely can gloat today, but the weakest link in this track is Sonali, why did she get convinced so fast by UB, is she not upset with her father and UB for not telling her about Manav's marriage...there are so many loose ends here, hope the CVs give us more and just not expect us to go with what we saw today. If Sonali has a decently convincing backstory this track will pack a punch.

UB has declared war today and sounded the bugle...was very refreshing to see a female protagonist in a desi serial who believes her instincts and not afraid of standing up for herself in front of elders. Despite what Manav tells her, Chhanchhan is firm in her belief.

For Dadaji to become an ally there has to be a strong emotional connect between him and Chhanchhan and this "barsi" incident was to establish that. Chhanchhan has gone straight and touched the most sensitive issue for Dadaji, what better way for both to come together.

The creatives are already laying foundation for the Kaumudi and Mukut track and as Chhanchhan finds her footing again in Borisagar house and Manav's heart, that will explode. Good going CVs... they seem to have a plan, now the only thing they need to explain is Sonali and Thakkhar Bhai.

Agree again Diya, can clearly see why Sanaya selected this show and if CVs and writers keep improving like this, she will have a good show to her name, TRP is another game.


Agree, U, I loved the ChhanMan scenes today, all of them ... the bedroom scene was the best. The part before Umaben arrives ... silent tension thick in the atmosphere ... and then after Umaben leaves, the barbed remarks between the two ... dialogues were good there ... the marital tiffs starting And I think CC saw that the alarm clock was not working properly .. if she had not checked it, it would not have rung, so for her that is another confirmation of her doubts, while for Manav its just something his mom overlooked. Two people, the same event, two completely different viewpoints.

But am glad that CC is firm in her conviction ... she knows what she heard, and she also knows that Sonali did change the name deliberately ... so her antennae are firmly up. And every little thing that UB does now is going to ring alarm bells ... UB will be very cautious because she knows Manav is also on the lookout ... all in all, its a cat and mouse game going on ...

Agree with you ... we do need more story on Sonali ... since she is the unknown entity here, I think that will unfold slowly. And I have more faith on the cvs here ... I think they WILL show a story here ... hope my faith is not misplaced 😉
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: goguma

at least now, i have some gist of the episode..
tks Diya.


tension in Chhanman's bedroom...
both are upset, and none is willing to pacify the other... :(


for sonali, i guess its too early to judge her cz she may have an agenda of her own..
and how long is she willing to wait for manav..?
as much as he is upset with chhanchhan now, manav holds that wedding vows v dearly.. 😉


sensing trouble in chhanman's heaven, i am sure ub will def up her game..
she is intelligent with her moves, but smart chhanchhan is no less...


great acting from the actor who played dadaji.
from his 'dying moment' till the time he went beserk the next morning.. wow!


we are in for more gripping moments tomorrow,
with Chhanchhan taking things in her own hand to help dadaji moves on..



one Q, can CC dispose the ash like that?
is there a ritual for this.?



Your last qs first ... no, CC should not be the one doing the visarjan ... it shuld be either Dadaji or his sons ... there is usually a prayer etc to be done ... depends on individual families how they do it ... but it should be done by the immediate family.

Dadaji was very good ... I liked his acting in the morning, when he went berserk over the missing ashes ...

I loved the ChhanMan scenes today ... San and Anuj have been very good in the romantic scenes, but today they showed that they can be equally good, if not better in the more serious tension filled scenes too. Anuj is impressing me as an actor ... I have seen him in his earlier shows ... he is much improved compared to the previous ones. Of course he is working with a very good actress here ... San always seems to bring out the best in her costars ...

As for Sanaya ... she always excels in the serious emotional scenes and today's ChhanMan scenes were no exception ... she was brilliant in the bedroom scenes. As well as in all the other scenes - a quiet observer picking up all the nuances about Dadajis obsession with his wife ... am loving the character as well as Sanaya's acting that brings Chhanchan to life!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Guinea

Diya ...nice post as always . Look forward to them after every episode .


Let's see the scenes I liked - three actually . The first one ofcourse was in the bedroom , the dialogues between manav and CC , the music and the acting was bang on ...it was also cute , this was effectively their first major fight . The bit which stayed in my mind was how they got up from the bed together and then sat together 😊 nice .

The 2 nd scene was the family after dinner kheer scene ...very nice and natural . Liked the tension between kaumidi and mukut ...CC noticing it , then everyone feeling awkard when dadaji offers kheer to urn dadi ...CC quietly observing everyone .

Ofcourse the scene of the day was the last one , when CC come and admits to dadaji that she has immersed the ashes ...dadaji and CC expression were bang on. This scene looks like one dhamekadaar and emotional scene and from the glimpses that we saw today , think sanaya and arvindji are going to rock it .

Umm sonali ...don't understand her ...is she going to be so dumb that will be totally manipulated by her dad and UB , didn't she once think that would she like to be married to an already married man OR is she so much in love with a guy who she never has seen , that she is obvious to all ...lets see how the cv's take it .

For me the only jarring note in the episode was the way the sonali loop was closed in the beginning , it was too direct , especially UB's speech ...I like a little subtlety in a scene , like the bedroom one between Manav and CC ...

And am always going to comment on what sanaya is wearing ...the lilac and yellow suit was pretty , the sleeves were gorgeous . 😊


Guinea ... you're the only one who mentioned it - and I agree ... the UB flashback of Sonali was less than subtle 😆 ... I have a feeling, like I've said earlier, that there is going to be more to Sonali ... while her turnaround on Manav's name is explained, her stand on the wedding now that she knows Manav is already married, is not ... so I will wait to see how this goes ...

The rest ... ChhanMan bedroom scenes were spot on ... both in setting and in acting ... both actors were excellent. Pick of the day for me ... especially the barbed remarks on the alarm clock ... again good dialogues.

Kheer scene ... more subtle than the Sonali one 😉 slowly laying the foundation of the Mukut-Kaumudi track ... I like Kaumudi, so am looking forward to seeing Chhanchhan sort out her problems!

And am also waiting for the Dadaji-Chhanchhan scene to play out today ... there will be loads of drama and crying ... Sanaya already warned 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: capricorn2006


Agree with you about the episodes flowing smoothly and the tracks being well laid out.

UB uses Sonali to create the first rift between the married couple. Manav is hurt, confused and torn between his mother and wife...something we knew was going to come soon.

And it is really not easy for any son to believe his mother can be dual faced to this extent. Not willing to accept the girl he loves as a DIL is one thing but conspiring to break his marriage and getting him married to someone else is totally different. Also the evidence in front of him so far ...Sonali talking abt someone else, UB bending rules and being extra sweet to Chch...makes him think Chch is being paranoid and is still not able to forgive UB for not accepting her initially.

I don't think its Manav not trusting Chch here...its more like how can she think my mom can do this. And they did lay the foundation for this for the past few weeks...couple of scenes where Manav tells Chch that UB has accepted her whole heartedly so Chch should also do the same.

Loved the bedroom scene...palpable tension, neither of them willing to budge this time and some good acting by Anuj-Sanaya. The BG music, dialogues, and direction were good too.

The whole Dadaji thing seems to be paving the way for him to be Chanchan's biggest ally in the house. I also don't think she did the visarjan and he will do it himself once he has cried his heart out for his wife.

Reserving my judgement on Sonali for now...the scene was too short and her reaction when UB told her abt Manav being married seemed ambiguous...she also seemed unconvinced about Chch being a cheat as she had already met her. I feel she might be led on initially by her dad and UB but will come aound later and thwart their plans.


Capri 😃
Agree, Manav is not really being a dikra ... all the evidence points to the contrary ... UB has been extra sweet to CC not only in front of him, but also with CC alone ... so it's difficult to actually figure out her true intentions. CC had started getting a little suspicious ... but even for her it was more about - 'is your mom truly happy with this marriage?' ... never had CC dreamed that UB was actually planning to break up their marriage. So Manav's upset is understandable ... though I still think he is taking it a little far! He has been shown to be a bit tantrum-prone though ...😉

And I think the distances between ChhanMan will stay for some time ... so just the right time for CC to gain another ally in the family, and a very powerful one at that. I'm looking forward to the CC-Dadaji scenes today ... and even more, to the development of the CC-Dadaji relationship in subsequent episodes!

Sonali will be shown negative or ambivalent initially, I think ... she might turn out to be the joker in the pack. Because Sonali knows she has lied to Manav about her fiance's name ... if UB does manage to fix their alliance, how is she going to explain to Manav that she was engaged to another guy, also a Manav, earlier? Too much of a coincidence for Manav to swallow! And Sonali must realise that too!

All in all, the show is going very well ... very interestingly poised ... and fun to watch! It's nice to watch a show which doesn't give too much heartburn ... the small ChhanMan tension we saw yesterday was enough! 😭

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