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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: ann_belle

Oh, Oh, I thought you were not going to even check this topic to post a reply anymore as you had work to do!!! I guess like me you must also have a lot of time on your hands 😉 .

well......well....well......i thought u must have replied.......so i thought of checking that out...now do u have any problems?

I posted the reply just to see if you would respond, and you have. yeh...coz i wanted to see if u would actually reply after that even though i had said i m not gonna check this topic......and i was right...u still wasted ur time.........how cool is that?...i mean.....people like u who have nothing to do in their lives.....must like passing their times like this😉

I am a great fan of Rakshanda Khan(well i am not really) and think she is a great actor (i m not a big fan of her acting) but her character Tanya, is the most poorly written character among all of Ekta's characters (well.....i dont think so).

About the physical relationship I was not justifying who did what and with whom. (wow.....nice way to deny things)All I am saying is in a court of law Karan is legally married to Nandani and Nandani to Karan, since they did not file for divorce from each other irrespective of physical relationships or distance they are still married to each other and their current marriages are illegal and bigamous! (thanks for the lecture again....actually just letting u know...i never ever read ur lecture on laws in every single post of urs.......thats why i didnt reply much...but u still did the same(wasted ur time)...in writing and justifying what u have said)

Yes she changed and became good but it was too late(well....is it her fault?) and the damage was already done, Nandani was already married to Ansh. Besides, she did not chagne from the goodness of her own heart, when she fell in love with Karan, she stopped supporting Ansh(is that why she made nandini stay at her house after nands had left the house?) and started supporting Karan.(really?...is that why she screamed at Mihir when Mihir refused to get KN married) So much for selflessly being good.

With regards, to your debate on her loving Bhoomi who is not her child, and how that was a big acrifice. People who can't have children adopt eir own even when they are not their own children. Schildren and love them as thO does that mean the adopted parent is doing a big favour to the adopted child.(did i say they do?) People sometimes love and care for their family friends and their relatives children like their own children, are they doing those children a big favour and a big sacrifice? (no need to repeat......did i ever say they do?.....tell me where i have mentioned it😉)In the Christian Community every child has a God father and a God mother(another lecture.....OMG!.....*yawn*)that person loves you as much as their own children and they are not blood relatives, is that a big sacrifice? (did i say it is?.....plzz....dont repeat the same thing 10000000 times to make ur argument look good and healthy😆😆😆u just made me laugh by saying big sacrifice? 10 times in this paragraph! Thanks for the hillarious post...actually my cousins r laughing at you as well....they r just sitting behind me....laughing like hell! 😆😆😆

And if it is baig sacrifice(again😆) than everyone in Shantiniketan except for Mohini has done this sacrifice so Tanya did nothing special(did i say she did?), or spectacular. To her Bhoomi was a means to an end, she got Karan through Bhoomi, (woow.....nice work👏👏...good way of putting it and manipulating it😉) so yes she will love Bhoomi and look after her.(yes....she is doing that...didnt i say that b4...why the hell r u repeating it ha?.....oh! for god sake..please dont repeat the same argument....coz it gives me a headache) So much that when Bhoomi announces to the World that she is an unwed mother to be(oh! really....is that why she lives in shantiniektan?.....with her kids...and one of them is from karan....isnt he?), she will hug her and call up the guy and inform him that everything is ok and she is taking care of everything. (oh! u just made another story in shanitinketan.....why dont u go and tell ekta..i am sure she'll surely put that up in the script.......and then u can see everything happening infront of ur eyes....must say...the way u have described..made it look as if its actually happening in real.....thanks again for breathtaking scene that u have added into this drama😆😆)If your daughter did that I guess you would also hug her? (hello...i am not even married...so dont even talk about kids to me...ok?.......and when the right time comes for me..i'll see what happens......dont talk about my life and relatioship..ok...dunno why u digeed so much)When Tulsi told Karan about Joydeep's willingness to marry Bhoomi, he decided to ask bhoomi and she agreed, because Bhoomi felt guilty that her father was going to be humiliated. What does Tanya do, she goes and blames Tulsi, because Tulsi wanted them to have their respect and not want Karan to be humiliated? She wanted her daughter to be unwed and pregnant and that would make her happier. (Before you say Bhoomis is lying about being pregnant, Tanya still does not know that Bhoomi is lying) oh!..u just answered urself...she doesnt know that...so what the hell is the point of this?..can u plzz clarify?i mean.....she doesnt know the truth..(and u know that very well)..and thats why she did that..(which u know already).so...really dont get ur point!

I agree that its Karan fault also that he only loved Bhoomi and did not spend much time disiplining Bhoomi, (good..u agree)but if you have noticed Bhoomi is atleast afraid of Karan and behaves properly in front of him. But in Tanya's pressence Bhoomi and Mantahn behave badly, shout at the elders, mock their cousins and are insulting even to Baa... What does Tanya do, she tell Baa that she should treat her children better.(well....she's wrong there...and i never said she was right at that time) Even when Manthan and Bhoomi used to talk badly about Nanadani in front of Tanya, she never corrected them or told them to speak properly or the truth about her marriage to Karan, instead she has made it seem like Nandani disappeared one fine day so she married Karan and has been looking after the children for the last 20 years.(oh! really?.....if u try to look at that in a different perspective i m sure u'll find out why....and i m not tell u why she did that..blah! blah!...coz i know u r free at home and got nothing to do..and then u'll just bug me for like a WEEK for that by just repeating same thing) When the truth is that when Nandani was in comma she tool advantage of the situation, made herself indispensible to Bhoomi and than married Karan for Bhoomi. (did u actually see her making plans as to how she should get karan....hello?..if she really wanted that...she would havent got them married at 1st place ok.......god!....i dont know about u...but i never saw Tanya trying to get karan by bhoomi...she never even showed or had those intentions....as far as i know.....but since u know everything very well....i would say.....ekta must have made a special episode for u...just to show u how she made the plan of getting karan by bhoomi.....woow....is she a close fiend of urs?😆😆)The fault of that marriage lies more with the elders of the house rather than Karan and Tanya becuase in a joint family when their are already 3 daughters in law and 2 kids it would not have been too difficult for one fo the other daughter in laws to volunteer and look after the child. Infact both Ganga and Damini had wanted to look after bhoomi but Tanya kept telling everyone how she told Nandani she would look after Bhoomi and hence she would do it herself. (yes...but she didnt say...get me married to karan?....she had told nandini...and she did all that....for that friend who was in coma..and was not able to take care of that child)

With regards to Tanya being rich, in the episode where Karan asks for a divroce, everyone in teh house talks about where Tanya will go as she has no house nothing. When Manthan is fighting for his rights, his cousins mock him saying that now he will know what it is to be poor and he gets angry and says he won't because he will make sure his mother gets her rights(meaning money)..(Ah! Ah!...not just money.....actually everything she deserves should be given to her). Even Karan tells Tanya that since she has no place to go, she can continue to stay in Shantiniketan. (oh! woow......how nice of karan......giving her a house as she has nowhere to go....and then u say...he respects her.....is that respecting a friend and wife...who has ben with u for 23 years ha?..is that the way of showing respect to others.....but if that is true....i must say...uu have no idea what "respect" means in real life)

I am not justifying Tripti and Mohini atlest with them what you see if what you get, with Tanya she says one thing and she does one thing. Before they found Nandani she would always tell Karan I am only waiting for Nandani to come back, once she returns I will hand her house over to her and move on. But once Nandani came back, she started crying and crying and crying.... forgetting all her promises and commitments about Nandani. (well...ok..she did that...this one point is not enough to prove a statement..ok...she told nandini that she'll take care of bhoomi...and she's been doing that....she told nandini to get her and karan married....and she did that)

You are right you didn't ask for my opinions so why am I wasting my time and giving it to you.(yeh...why are u?) You are one of those people that cannot separate the actor from the character(hello...i do have the abilty to seperate the character from the actor...i dont like rakshanda at all..actrually i hated her as mallika....but i really like her character tanya...just in case u didnt know)to , its ok, some of us have use of that function and can do so. (oh! really?..is that why i dopnt like rakshanda as an actor ha?....i think u have an inability to judge people and their ability by just one debate.......please tthat checked in ur mind!)

Besides you think sarcasm will make your point right I cant help but laugh at your comments, I have emailed this link to all my friends and we all had a good laugh. One of them has two children one who is adopted, she now thinks that she deserves a gold medal because she loves both her children equally. She is going to petition the government of India to give the Padma Bhushan to all women with adopted children or children not thier own sho love them as they deserve it more than our Presidents, Actors and Sportsmen. (oh! really?....why dont u go and nominate her or ask her to apply for that medal...coz really...she totally deserves it👏👏👏....*sigh*.........god!..people like u in this world......well....me and my cousins here....r just looking at the fact that u acted like such a 12 year old kid and told ur friends....well.....i think u should go tell ur relatives as well about this as well😆😆i m sure they'll laugh at the fact that even though u give big letcures to people but will immaturely tell the whole world that u r having a debate😆😆..jeez..u r so funny)

Thank you for starting of my morning with such humour 😆 😆 😆(u r welcome😉...btw...thanks for ending my dinner with such funny comments ..me and my cousins had a great time...they r over from UK....and had great fun reading ur post👏👏

thanks...once again!!!

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: mousumi

i totally agree with u. jayasean is against karan nandani frm b4 too. she cannot separate character s frm actors. even in nach baliye segments she used to shout on hiten gauri just coz she never likd karan nandani together in kyuni...how funny it was.. even i like rakshanda very much but not at all her character tanya. watever u write she will never understand u...let her beleif watever she wants,usse bolne se to sachai nehi badlegi na?


Hello? Mousmi, first of all....there is no need to comment on me as I did not ask for that.

And as for Hiten and Gauri, I would say,They are outstanding actors but not fabulous dancers and the way they remained in the show until quarter finals irrespective of their dancing skills. I would say that actually was unfair to other couples performing as well!

And as for rakshanda, I do not like her much as an actress or as a person but surely like Tanya. You cannot change my mind and I cannot change yours.

And as for shouting at them. You guys used to to post 100000000 post saying how good Hiten and Gauri are even though they were not good at dancing.

So I would say you are a biased fan of Hiten and Gauri who will like them in every single role of theirs, no matter if they are good or not and you have already proved that already! and for me not seperating actors from charcaters. I would say you have misunderstood me. You guys are the one who want Tanya to die just because you cannot see your cuties together in this show where as I want Tanya to be with Karan because I think she is good enought to be with him and deserves him also and as for Rakshanda, I must tell you I dont like her in real life but I like her character and It is just my choice.

and this is the end for me....from now..i do not know you in this forum aand hopefully u will not notice me in this forum as well!



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Posted: 18 years ago
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Originally posted by: ann_belle

Jaysean, you are being deliberately dense and not wanting to see things and if you read your email again, you will realze you are contradicting yourself. On one side you say the sacrifice Tanya made was loving someone else's child, on the other side you say Tanya married Karan for Bhoomi....

Anyway I have tried to address your points in the order that you have written them.

I was talking about Mohin's daughter Archita, I typed Meera by mistake.

You have totally misunderstood my first point about the marriage, since no divorce was filed, Karan and Nadhani's marriage is the only legal marriage. It does not matter if they have physical relationship or no physical relationship, if they live together or separate. According to the Indian Constitution a Man/Woman has to file for divroce while their spouse is still alive, to be able to marry someone else, otherwise the second marriage is not legal.

The same way you cannot force someone to love you, you cannot force that person to have a physical relationship with you. Should you do that it would be rape and that is the most ugly crime on the planet.

Irrespective of what Smriti Irani said, if you go to the archives and see the old videos you can see Karan in the jail visiting Tulsi and Tulsi convincing him that more than a father a child needs mothers love. She even goes to the wedding ceremony to bless Karan and Shoba but Shobha refuses to take her blessings.

Karan tried his best to stop the marriage and kept refusing but Tanya was willing from the beginin. Even once she did not say I don't have to marry Karan to look after Bhoomi, no as soon as she heard she started acting like a blushing bride. Even after Nandani came back, she contunued to stay in Shantiniketan until Nandhani started looking for a match for her, then when she had no choice she left the house and ran away to avoid marrying someone else.

Karan was with Nandani but kept meeting Tanya, he did not neglect her or treat her badly. Even the way Nandani found out about Karan and Tanya was because Tanya was sitting with Karan on Karvachaut day in jail and Nandani went to the jail to open her fast!!!

She is married to Karan, so ofcourse she will take care of them as family memebers!!! A child does not know the difference between lot of love and little love, look at Ganga's kids she loved them so much, but they know only what adults tell them.

Then even Tripti should get a crown for looking after Nakul who is actual Gautham and Damini's son and Lakshya who is Sahil and Ganga's son and yet gave them such good upbringing and values and traditions and respect for the elders. Not to forget Damini who is looking after Ansh and Shrada's son and Tulsi who gave the running of the house and business to Karan who is actually Mihir and Mandira's son!!!

Tanya loves Bhoomi for selfish reasons, because of Bhoomi she could marry Karan so why won't she love Bhoomi??? Why should she not look after Bhoomi when she was the one who helped Ansh break up Karan and Nadani and Ansh married Nandani and raped her and Bhoomi is the result of that rape. Tanya is also responsible for the circumstances of Bhoomi's birth, so she better love and look after her.

Yes marrying a guy you her love - that makes her selfish because she is thinking only of herself and her love. Not the guy who does not love her and has to marry her even though he is not interested. Not her friend who is in comma and will wake up and feel betrayed and not the child who will one day find out the truth and become even more screwed up!!!

Tanya should like any self respecting woman (eg. Ganga) leave Shantinekatan and move on with life. No woman will want to be deemened the way she is being deemened and be happy. When you love someone their happiness is more important than yours, thats why Nandani is staying away from Karan because she believes he and the children are happy with Tanya.

But then Tany has proved she has no self respect by living in SN for the last 23 years, maybe she just wants the Virani money and the glory atleast Tripti and Mohini are honest about what they want and not hypocrites like Tanya.



Ok! Let me be sincere now.😊

I am not here to have a fight with some one or make enemies. I was here to defend Tanya who is one of my favourite characters in this show. But I know you are a Karan Nandini fan, and would always like them😊but I am a Tanya fan and would always like her for what she is. We cannot change each others mind.

Well! I do not come to this forum that much but whenever i come here, I atleast see 5 posts blaming Tanya just because Karan and Nandini are together which is a bit frustrating. People here are so biased towards Hiten and Gauri that they cannot see the one coming between them even in reel life.Again, I would like to say that it is my opinion only😊.

and I have always heard that the first person to end a fight or argument is the wiser one. So, being mature enough that I am, I would like to end this pointless debate that we are having. I personally do not think we are getting anything out of it.

So, I sincerely am asking you to end this debate and I will end it her as well.

With Regards,
Jaysean
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Thank you for your comments, unlike you I never claimed to be busy or refuse to return to this post, I have been replying to it so I check for comments. Anyway I don't want to waste my time writing to someone who is incapable of understanding and has very little grasping power. Someone who constantly contradicts themselves.

By the way since you are not married some of my guy friends who want to get remarried would like to get in touch with you. You see a couple of them are separated from their wives would love to meet broad minded women like you who see nothing wrong in marrying a person already married!!!

Besides you are right I am related to Ekta's chachi her father's brother's wife and everytime she comes to meet her chachi we talk about her various serials.

Strange how you are the only one of the forum who thinks I lecture everyone else who responded felt I had great writing skills and someone asked me if I was a law student. Guess as with all things majority wins, so your opinion is meaningless to me.

With regards to your cousins over from the UK appreciating Tanya what can I say, neither the UK nor the US have strong values and bigamy is common over there, so why should they find marrying an already married man wrong.

After reading your post I almost didn't reply but then I thought why should I allow your petty and vicious comments go scot free. Your nasty mean cruel barbs at others in this forum who present their point of view should not be simply let go.

You call me immature, go back and read the posts and you will see for yourself who is that. I who presesnted my points without making personal snide remarks or yourself who cannot write without being insulting.
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Posted: 18 years ago
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ann_belle u did not answer my question.i asked u whether u are a law student?anyways very well written in every posts of urs.especially the last one.but don't get so personal and ask jaysean 2 contact ur friends who wanna remarry. 😆 😆
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Posted: 18 years ago
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Guys! seriously its time we put a STOP to all this rubbish we see everyday on India-Forums.

This is only a show and not real life, i agree opinions are allowed but dont stretch to such an extent that they become an insult for the actors and actresses. This topic has been going on forever pls stop judgeing others in a negative manner. If this continues warnings will be sent out.

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