kick out tanya from sn. - Page 9

Originally posted by: komal_life

Originally posted by: ann_belle

Dear Jaysean,

The Hindu Marriage Act has no time deadline, unless divroced or death you are considered married. Their is a clause in the Indian Penal Court (this clause was taken from the US law) that if a married couple have not been living together for more than 7 years, he/she can file for divorce and will be granted the same but the court.

This law does not automatically nullify a marriage if the spouses are not living together for more than 7 years, the person still has to apply for divorce and a court has to grant the same. This law also applies if you have been living together but not as a couple and strangers and there is no physical relationship between you. Again the husband/wife have to go to court and apply for divroce on the basis of the same law.

If this law was automatically applied that Karan would not be married, as both his marriages would be null or void. well..i dont know much about hindu religion..i read about that somewhere on this site...so if its wrong...then i would say it was misunderstanding and now it has been cleared out.
His marriage with Nandani because they have been separated for more than 7 years. yes...even they have had no physical relationship for more than 20 years..so their wedding will be the same as karan and tanya's
His marriage with Tanya cause they have had no physical relationship for more than 20 years, they do not even share the same room! (well...yes.....coz karan is not giving her right to her...so i dont blame her for all that)

While the childs upbringing is the responsibility of both the parents unlike the WEstern culture where both the father and mother contribute to the childs upbringing 50-50, in India it is still considered the mothers role.yes..i agree...but father still has to play his role and teach them the right thinh......now u cant say the children who do not have a mother....dont have good sanskars coz teaching good things is a mothers role... The father works all hours of the day (but still makes sure that bhoomi wears most expensive clothes from mumbai...and i m takinh about karan) and travles on business or work and the mother who is a house wife will look after and bring up her children.

Tanya has a bigger responsibility as Karan was forced to marry her so she could be a mother to Bhoomi. yes..and she was fair to bhoomi and manthan in all the ways.Unfortunately both her children have 0 upbringing.its not only her fault....its karan's fault as well. What makes it worse is all the other children in Shanti Niketan are good children. Even Meera and Tripti's children have respect for elders and their culture.first of all...meera doesnt have a child secondly lakshya and nakul r not tripti's children....and they r good coz of sahil as well. If two sets of children in the same house have different upbringing the fault lies with the parents(including karan..not just tanya) as they have done something to cause this difference.

With regards to Tulsi not telling Karna to marry Tanya, please go through the old episodes again. I have seen this serial from the beggining. Tulsi was in jail and Karan had gone to meet her and she convinced Karan to marry Tanya. Karan refused before Tulsi spoke to him and told him to agree for the sake of Bhoomi.

yes..but i very well remember smriti saying that she refused to do the scene...so other family members had to force him.

You keep saying Tanya has sacrificed so much, what are the sacrifices she made? yes..she has done a lot
She married her friends husband when the friend was in comma, comma not dead. well..karan had his choice as well
When the friend came out of comma, the husband still stood by her. actually karan was with nandini. as tanya had left the house for their sake.so u cnat say karan stood by her
The friend goes to jail for 14 years and leaves the husband and child with her. and she takes care of them as a family member
The friends child calls her mother and her own mother maasi. bcause she gives so much love to the daughter that the child starts thinking that its her mother loving her so much....so its not her fault either!
The friends in-laws want her as a daughter-in-law and not the friend. because she is so nice...so they thought they actually thought it'll be better to make her a family member
The friends status and wealth and respect she had for the last 20 years. coz she deserved it!
If you are talking about her looking after Bhoomi, than she was married to Karan for that purpose so she can hardly refuse to do so now. Manthan is her son, so she had to lok after him and the rest are her responsibilities for living as Karan's wife. All the other wives in India do the same, all the other wives in Shantiniketan do the same. That is not sacrifice it is duties of a wife as husband works and wife runs the house. yes...but it is sacrifice to do it for some one else's daughters...she wasnt unfair with bhoomi....so i would say she was nice to everyone

What is the sacrifice, is it her choosing to live with a man who does not love her? Well...it is actually marrying a guy for the sake of her love and to take care of his daughter..as the faily members thought tanya would be a perfect mother to bhoomi as nandini wasnt there!Then its not her sacrifice, its her decision and she is not sacrificing antyhing because she gets all of the above.

yes.....trully....she gets all of the above coz she deserved it😉


BTW..i dont wanna be sitting here trying to change ur mind for weeks....so just letting u know...that i m not gonna check this topic anymore...so even if u post anything...i wouldnt be able to read it..as i have got toher work to do...so till later

bye bye

Originally posted by: ann_belle

Jaysean, you are being deliberately dense and not wanting to see things (as if u r?)and if you read your email again, you will realze you are contradicting yourself. On one side you say the sacrifice Tanya made was loving someone else's child, on the other side you say Tanya married Karan for Bhoomi.... they both r the same..loving meant being bhoomi's mother and she married karan for bhoomi so she could give her a mother's love...so they both r the same....bhoomi is not her daughter..is she?..so it is a sacrifice to marry karan and take careand love bhoomi as well even though she knows its not her own daugter...so i dont think i am contradicting anything except u r just manipulating whatever i have said...so please stop all that to prove urslef right!

Anyway I have tried to address your points in the order that you have written them.

I was talking about Mohin's daughter Archita, I typed Meera by mistake.

You have totally misunderstood my first point about the marriage, since no divorce was filed, Karan and Nadhani's marriage is the only legal marriage. It does not matter if they have physical relationship or no physical relationship, if they live together or separate. According to the Indian Constitution a Man/Woman has to file for divroce while their spouse is still alive, to be able to marry someone else, otherwise the second marriage is not legal.

well...i didnt ask for any lecture on laws......and as for physical relationship..u r the one who started it....so no point anymore......

The same way you cannot force someone to love you, you cannot force that person to have a physical relationship with you. Should you do that it would be rape and that is the most ugly crime on the planet.

well.............u tell me first.........did tanya force karan to love here???????? well..i dont think so....so can u plzz tell e the point of all this?

Irrespective of what Smriti Irani said, if you go to the archives and see the old videos you can see Karan in the jail visiting Tulsi and Tulsi convincing him that more than a father a child needs mothers love. She even goes to the wedding ceremony to bless Karan and Shoba but Shobha refuses to take her blessings.

well...u might be right...but that isnt forcing......it is teling the truth that a mother was needed for bhoomi

Karan tried his best to stop the marriage and kept refusing but Tanya was willing from the beginin. Even once she did not say I don't have to marry Karan to look after Bhoomi, no as soon as she heard she started acting like a blushing bride.coz she loved him Even after Nandani came back, she contunued to stay in Shantiniketan until Nandhani started looking for a match for her,coz she could not marry someone else as karan was there then when she had no choice she left the house and ran away to avoid marrying someone else. yes...she did the right thing

Karan was with Nandani but kept meeting Tanya, he did not neglect her or treat her badly. well...tanya had left the house....hadnt she???.....so how could be kept meeting her when he had no idea where she was.....and if they were meeting before she left the house....thats because they were happily married and had that "physical relationship" as well!Even the way Nandani found out about Karan and Tanya was because Tanya was sitting with Karan on Karvachaut day in jail and Nandani went to the jail to open her fast!!! well...coz she is the wife but i agree to the fact that karan should have gone to nandini first!

She is married to Karan, so ofcourse she will take care of them as family memebers!!! yes..i agree...coz its her right and responsibilty!A child does not know the difference between lot of love and little love,but if u look at the point of their marriage then u'll know why she did that.....she got married to karan for bhoomi(as i said b4)...to be her mother.....so she had to treat her like a mother not a masi so atthe end of the day..obviously bhoomi was gonna call her maa...instead of masi! look at Ganga's kids she loved them so much, but they know only what adults tell them.

Then even Tripti should get a crown for looking after Nakul who is actual Gautham and Damini's son and Lakshya who is Sahil and Ganga's son and yet gave them such good upbringing and values and traditions and respect for the elders. yes..but for what...so she could stay there?and plan to rob viranis anytime? atleast...tanya doesnt have those qualities!Not to forget Damini who is looking after Ansh and Shrada's son(well...she is doing what tanya is doing...except....gautam is also there to see if they r on the right track or not)and Tulsi who gave the running of the house (coz its her responsibilty)and business to Karan who is actually Mihir and Mandira's son!!! yes....and he got so busy in the work that he didnt notice that his kids were becoming such brats.

Tanya loves Bhoomi for selfish reasons(i certainly dont agree), because of Bhoomi she could marry Karan so why won't she love Bhoomi???(well...u r telling me that she is selfish...r u??.....well...let me tell u.....karan is the biggest selfish i guess...he lets tanya stay in the house but have no physical relationship......and when nandini comes bak....she simply asks for a divorce or say "i wanna end this relationship" with few emotions on his face!.......isnt that more selfish ha?.....tanya atleast was fair to bhoomi and loved bhoomi a lot....its not like she used her by which i mean....she got married to karan but as soon as she got married she stopped taking care of her as she is already married now? .Why should she not look after Bhoomi when she was the one who helped Ansh break up Karan and Nadani and Ansh married Nandani and raped her(but i very well remember tanya had chaged at that time and nandini was living over tanya's house when ansh asked her to go to switzerland...and nandini agreed...so this rape part and bhoomi's birth coz of that is sooooooooooo not her fault) and Bhoomi is the result of that rape.(again.......she did it unknowingly.....and for a friend....and she has changed a lot after that.......i thought u were smart enough to get that....and consider that episode toooooo as u know everything that has happened in this show including every single episode😉)Tanya is also responsible for the circumstances of Bhoomi's birth, so she better love and look after her. and she is doing that..isnt she?..she has looked after her for more than 20 years now..except bhoomi doesnt have good sanskars as her father was very very very very busy notiing her clothes and his own business but i agree....that to some extent it was her fault as well!

Yes marrying a guy you her love - that makes her selfish because she is thinking only of herself and her love.well.....have u ever heard"love is blind" hopefully u have...coz i think u'll get ur answers Not the guy who does not love her and has to marry her even though he is not interested. Not her friend who is in comma and will wake up and feel betrayed and not the child who will one day find out the truth and become even more screwed up!!! but it was not for her own sake....for the sake of his daughter...include that in ur post or argument next time.otherwise....i'll just think u r a biased fan.why blame her for that????did other family memebers thin of that? did tulsi think of that? did damini, ganga(all the goody goodies u mentioned up there) thought of that?
the decision had to be made quicky.......and at that time...no one thought of those circumstances..then how could tanya?

Tanya should like any self respecting woman (eg. Ganga) leave Shantinekatan and move on with life. No woman will want to be deemened the way she is being deemened and be happy. but kya kare..she wants to live in the hosue were she belongs with her husband..family and kids.When you love someone their happiness is more important than yours, thats why Nandani is staying away from Karan because she believes he and the children are happy with Tanya. well..i agree with u.....and not to forget that even tanya has done that...just read my other posts....u'll get the answers.

But then Tany has proved she has no self respect by living in SN for the last 23 years, maybe she just wants the Virani money(oh....really.....i dont think she was poor b4...her mother lives abroad as far as i know....she had a good house where she kept nandini after she left SN..so if it really was about the mopney...then i think u better think about it 1st and then put up an argument) and the glory atleast Tripti and Mohini are honest(hahaha...cant believe u r justifying those two characters..even though they r the worst) about what they want and not hypocrites like Tanya.

Originally posted by: ann_belle

Oh, Oh, I thought you were not going to even check this topic to post a reply anymore as you had work to do!!! I guess like me you must also have a lot of time on your hands 😉 .

I posted the reply just to see if you would respond, and you have.

I am a great fan of Rakshanda Khan and think she is a great actor but her character Tanya, is the most poorly written character among all of Ekta's characters.

About the physical relationship I was not justifying who did what and with whom. All I am saying is in a court of law Karan is legally married to Nandani and Nandani to Karan, since they did not file for divorce from each other irrespective of physical relationships or distance they are still married to each other and their current marriages are illegal and bigamous!

Yes she changed and became good but it was too late and the damage was already done, Nandani was already married to Ansh. Besides, she did not chagne from the goodness of her own heart, when she fell in love with Karan, she stopped supporting Ansh and started supporting Karan. So much for selflessly being good.

With regards, to your debate on her loving Bhoomi who is not her child, and how that was a big acrifice. People who can't have children adopt children and love them as their own even when they are not their own children. SO does that mean the adopted parent is doing a big favour to the adopted child. People sometimes love and care for their family friends and their relatives children like their own children, are they doing those children a big favour and a big sacrifice? In the Christian Community every child has a God father and a God mother that person loves you as much as their own children and they are not blood relatives, is that a big sacrifice?

And if it is baig sacrifice than everyone in Shantiniketan except for Mohini has done this sacrifice so Tanya did nothing special, or spectacular. To her Bhoomi was a means to an end, she got Karan through Bhoomi, so yes she will love Bhoomi and look after her. So much that when Bhoomi announces to the World that she is an unwed mother to be, she will hug her and call up the guy and inform him that everything is ok and she is taking care of everything. If your daughter did that I guess you would also hug her? When Tulsi told Karan about Joydeep's willingness to marry Bhoomi, he decided to ask bhoomi and she agreed, because Bhoomi felt guilty that her father was going to be humiliated. What does Tanya do, she goes and blames Tulsi, because Tulsi wanted them to have their respect and not want Karan to be humiliated? She wanted her daughter to be unwed and pregnant and that would make her happier. (Before you say Bhoomis is lying about being pregnant, Tanya still does not know that Bhoomi is lying)

I agree that its Karan fault also that he only loved Bhoomi and did not spend much time disiplining Bhoomi, but if you have noticed Bhoomi is atleast afraid of Karan and behaves properly in front of him. But in Tanya's pressence Bhoomi and Mantahn behave badly, shout at the elders, mock their cousins and are insulting even to Baa. What does Tanya do, she tell Baa that she should treat her children better. Even when Manthan and Bhoomi used to talk badly about Nanadani in front of Tanya, she never corrected them or told them to speak properly or the truth about her marriage to Karan, instead she has made it seem like Nandani disappeared one fine day so she married Karan and has been looking after the children for the last 20 years. When the truth is that when Nandani was in comma she tool advantage of the situation, made herself indispensible to Bhoomi and than married Karan for Bhoomi. The fault of that marriage lies more with the elders of the house rather than Karan and Tanya becuase in a joint family when their are already 3 daughters in law and 2 kids it would not have been too difficult for one fo the other daughter in laws to volunteer and look after the child. Infact both Ganga and Damini had wanted to look after bhoomi but Tanya kept telling everyone how she told Nandani she would look after Bhoomi and hence she would do it herself.

With regards to Tanya being rich, in the episode where Karan asks for a divroce, everyone in teh house talks about where Tanya will go as she has no house nothing. When Manthan is fighting for his rights, his cousins mock him saying that now he will know what it is to be poor and he gets angry and says he won't because he will make sure his mother gets her rights (meaning money). Even Karan tells Tanya that since she has no place to go, she can continue to stay in Shantiniketan.

I am not justifying Tripti and Mohini atlest with them what you see if what you get, with Tanya she says one thing and she does one thing. Before they found Nandani she would always tell Karan I am only waiting for Nandani to come back, once she returns I will hand her house over to her and move on. But once Nandani came back, she started crying and crying and crying.... forgetting all her promises and commitments about Nandani.

You are right you didn't ask for my opinions so why am I wasting my time and giving it to you. You are one of those people that cannot separate the actor from the character, its ok, some of us have use of that function and can do so.

Besides you think sarcasm will make your point right I cant help but laugh at your comments, I have emailed this link to all my friends and we all had a good laugh. One of them has two children one who is adopted, she now thinks that she deserves a gold medal because she loves both her children equally. She is going to petition the government of India to give the Padma Bhushan to all women with adopted children or children not thier own sho love them as they deserve it more than our Presidents, Actors and Sportsmen.

Thank you for starting of my morning with such humour 😆 😆 😆 !!!

Originally posted by: ann_belle

Oh, Oh, I thought you were not going to even check this topic to post a reply anymore as you had work to do!!! I guess like me you must also have a lot of time on your hands 😉 .

I posted the reply just to see if you would respond, and you have.

I am a great fan of Rakshanda Khan and think she is a great actor but her character Tanya, is the most poorly written character among all of Ekta's characters.

About the physical relationship I was not justifying who did what and with whom. All I am saying is in a court of law Karan is legally married to Nandani and Nandani to Karan, since they did not file for divorce from each other irrespective of physical relationships or distance they are still married to each other and their current marriages are illegal and bigamous!

Yes she changed and became good but it was too late and the damage was already done, Nandani was already married to Ansh. Besides, she did not chagne from the goodness of her own heart, when she fell in love with Karan, she stopped supporting Ansh and started supporting Karan. So much for selflessly being good.

With regards, to your debate on her loving Bhoomi who is not her child, and how that was a big acrifice. People who can't have children adopt children and love them as their own even when they are not their own children. SO does that mean the adopted parent is doing a big favour to the adopted child. People sometimes love and care for their family friends and their relatives children like their own children, are they doing those children a big favour and a big sacrifice? In the Christian Community every child has a God father and a God mother that person loves you as much as their own children and they are not blood relatives, is that a big sacrifice?

And if it is baig sacrifice than everyone in Shantiniketan except for Mohini has done this sacrifice so Tanya did nothing special, or spectacular. To her Bhoomi was a means to an end, she got Karan through Bhoomi, so yes she will love Bhoomi and look after her. So much that when Bhoomi announces to the World that she is an unwed mother to be, she will hug her and call up the guy and inform him that everything is ok and she is taking care of everything. If your daughter did that I guess you would also hug her? When Tulsi told Karan about Joydeep's willingness to marry Bhoomi, he decided to ask bhoomi and she agreed, because Bhoomi felt guilty that her father was going to be humiliated. What does Tanya do, she goes and blames Tulsi, because Tulsi wanted them to have their respect and not want Karan to be humiliated? She wanted her daughter to be unwed and pregnant and that would make her happier. (Before you say Bhoomis is lying about being pregnant, Tanya still does not know that Bhoomi is lying)

I agree that its Karan fault also that he only loved Bhoomi and did not spend much time disiplining Bhoomi, but if you have noticed Bhoomi is atleast afraid of Karan and behaves properly in front of him. But in Tanya's pressence Bhoomi and Mantahn behave badly, shout at the elders, mock their cousins and are insulting even to Baa. What does Tanya do, she tell Baa that she should treat her children better. Even when Manthan and Bhoomi used to talk badly about Nanadani in front of Tanya, she never corrected them or told them to speak properly or the truth about her marriage to Karan, instead she has made it seem like Nandani disappeared one fine day so she married Karan and has been looking after the children for the last 20 years. When the truth is that when Nandani was in comma she tool advantage of the situation, made herself indispensible to Bhoomi and than married Karan for Bhoomi. The fault of that marriage lies more with the elders of the house rather than Karan and Tanya becuase in a joint family when their are already 3 daughters in law and 2 kids it would not have been too difficult for one fo the other daughter in laws to volunteer and look after the child. Infact both Ganga and Damini had wanted to look after bhoomi but Tanya kept telling everyone how she told Nandani she would look after Bhoomi and hence she would do it herself.

With regards to Tanya being rich, in the episode where Karan asks for a divroce, everyone in teh house talks about where Tanya will go as she has no house nothing. When Manthan is fighting for his rights, his cousins mock him saying that now he will know what it is to be poor and he gets angry and says he won't because he will make sure his mother gets her rights (meaning money). Even Karan tells Tanya that since she has no place to go, she can continue to stay in Shantiniketan.

I am not justifying Tripti and Mohini atlest with them what you see if what you get, with Tanya she says one thing and she does one thing. Before they found Nandani she would always tell Karan I am only waiting for Nandani to come back, once she returns I will hand her house over to her and move on. But once Nandani came back, she started crying and crying and crying.... forgetting all her promises and commitments about Nandani.

You are right you didn't ask for my opinions so why am I wasting my time and giving it to you. You are one of those people that cannot separate the actor from the character, its ok, some of us have use of that function and can do so.

Besides you think sarcasm will make your point right I cant help but laugh at your comments, I have emailed this link to all my friends and we all had a good laugh. One of them has two children one who is adopted, she now thinks that she deserves a gold medal because she loves both her children equally. She is going to petition the government of India to give the Padma Bhushan to all women with adopted children or children not thier own sho love them as they deserve it more than our Presidents, Actors and Sportsmen.

Thank you for starting of my morning with such humour 😆 😆 😆 !!!

i totally agree with u. jayasean is against karan nandani frm b4 too. she cannot separate character s frm actors. even in nach baliye segments she used to shout on hiten gauri just coz she never likd karan nandani together in kyuni...how funny it was.. even i like rakshanda very much but not at all her character tanya. watever u write she will never understand u...let her beleif watever she wants,usse bolne se to sachai nehi badlegi na?