Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum
^^ hey good to see you too Vints. :) And like you, i am an Indian at heart. One might find a zillion faults, but she's the mother. The only other country that means anything to me is the US and so yes, i am a huge US supporter and i am proud to be!
coming back to topic, i dont think the US set any bad precedent by using the bomb. Rogues such as the chinese, the koreans, the ME never need any precedent. They will break any international norm if it suits them, and countries such as Japan and Germany during ww2 did precisely that.
you are saying too the japanese were dying for a truce and have picked one piece of evidence for that. But there was massive evidence pointing the other way. On every occasion, the japanese were fighting to the death, on island after island, inflicting huge casualties on allied troops. Why should the US have engaged in truce talks that would drag on, while jap civilians and troops were simultaneously killing thousands of americans in the islands where fighting was already being waged? After the vicious things the japs did, civilians and troops alike, why should the americans have sat around allowing the japs to negotiate favorable terms of surrender, which may or may not have materialized? Would you have allowed a Osama Bin Laden to negotiate favorable terms? Should Indira Gandhi have allowed the Bhuttos to weasel out on favorable terms after the 1971 war as she did, something we are still paying the price for?
Orders had also been given out to the japanese commanders to kill every POW. Lots of these POWs were also Indians in case folks dont know! And the biggest question you need to answer is: WHY DID IT TAKE TWO BOMBS for the japs to finally surrender? Why didnt they surrender after the first? Yeah sure, the japs were dying for a truce. Just that it took two bombs to do it. Now if that is not evidence refuting your claims, what is!!!
and no, i am not a chinese sympathisizer. But the chinese were never our problem till the onset of the indo-china war. The japs were. To the extent one believes in civilized norms, the japs were the bad guys all the way till the end of ww2, not the chinese.
those two bombs changed japan's destiny and brought it to its senses where today it is a pacifist nation, a global powerhouse obeying international norms. The chinese too have had their miracle growth on the backs of hundreds of millions of peasants who died during mao's revolution. Nothing great is achieved without sacrifice. It seems unfair from the perspective of those who get the short end of the stick and those who had nothing to do with it and were just caught in the cross-fire. But in this case, this was not a war the americans had wanted. It was thrust upon them and it was for the "greater good" of the world. Ultimately, any decision has consequences and it'll never be fair to everyone involved. Too bad those japanese were killed but they can thank their emperor and their compatriots for that, not the US.
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