America's role and riches in WWII

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Posted: 12 years ago
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continuation from our previous thread.. before WWI Russia was world leader in OIL and production. All competitors got busy in war and we all know what USA did to japan. After WWII not only USA became richest country in the world.. there was no competition either. lot of wealth was generated by selling weapons to war torn European countries, its termed as feeding on others' misery. After WWII USA was biggest beneficiary confiscating German patents and increasing productions.
Sad part is they have not stopped since and continued attacking countries to loot oil, wealth or generally being tyrant. Germany has apologised hundreds of times for war crimes and even today Nazi soldiers are dug out and tried. What about American war crime, where is shame apology and punishment?

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Posted: 12 years ago
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capitalism at it's finest. finding an opportunity in the world war!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: mr.ass

capitalism at it's finest. finding an opportunity in the world war!



Hey! Ass ...😆...Capitalism ? ...Noe hell mon They were only trying to get hold of orange mocha frappaccinos you see...😆 ..Alright.I'm off for a few ..and I ll react when I get back ( If I get back ..😆 ) if some clayton's patriots attempt to condescend as they refute your argument ...😆

Vintu...😛
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Can you name few war crimes that America has committed in WWII? Also were these crimes trailed at the ICC (international criminal court)?

Ps, since we are opening a chapter in history, why not put forth some real examples so that we can debate in details ;)
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^^^ Nuclear attacks on civilian settlements killing over 200,000 people ...Violating the 1922 regulations of air warfare ...

Women were raped by American soldiers near Yokohma ...after Japanese surrender And over 10,000 rapes ( Estimated ) of women in Europe especially in France, Germany and England ... ( Also refer to the 1945 testimonial in the US senate ..Of atrocities of the forces governed by Eisenhower over the German women.. ) during the WW II epoch ...😊

Vintu ...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Vintage.Wine

Alright.I'm off for a few ..and I ll react when I get back ( If I get back ..😆 ) if some clayton's patriots attempt to condescend as they refute your argument ...😆

Vintu...😛

Hey Guru ji 😒 why would d you go at a time when I was expecting you to take the first hot seat grrr---😡
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Posted: 12 years ago
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More recently the emotional, physical and sexual abuses alleged at the notorious Iraqi prison of Abu Ghraib at the hands of American personnel after the invasion. The fight for justice rages on.
Edited by zorrro - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Aarya-

Can you name few war crimes that America has committed in WWII? Also were these crimes trailed at the ICC (international criminal court)?

Ps, since we are opening a chapter in history, why not put forth some real examples so that we can debate in details ;)

sure, lets look chronologically
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_massacre, everyone is well aware of this
WWII
Bombing of Dresden in World War II- German city Dresden was bombed by Brit and US forces killing 22000 25000 civilians
Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - Vintu has provided most details
just a quote from wiki
"the attacks upon Hiroshima and Nagasaki caused such severe and indiscriminate suffering that they did violate the most basic legal principles governing the conduct of war."
Killings of civilians and POW in Italy, Germany Japan some of the massacres :
Canicatt massacre, Dachau massacre, Biscari massacre , Operation Teardrop
Another quote from wiki
According to an article in Der Spiegel by Klaus Wiegrefe, many personal memoirs of Allied soldiers have been willfully ignored by historians until now because they were at odds with the "Greatest Generation" mythology surrounding World War II. However, this has recently started to change, with books such as "The Day of Battle", by Rick Atkinson, where he describes Allied war crimes in Italy, and "D-Day: The Battle for Normandy," by Antony Beevor.[21] Beevor's latest work is currently discussed by scholars, and should some of them be proven right, it suggests that Allied war crimes in Normandy were much more extensive "than was previously realized
After the war
Zorro already mentioned Abu Gharaib torture and prisoner abuse
then comes Korean war, Vietnam (much of the barbaric acts are not even acknowledged), Yugoslavia bombing
War on terror(biggest joke so far)
which one do you want to defend?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: zorrro

Hey Guru ji 😒 why would d you go at a time when I was expecting you to take the first hot seat grrr---😡



Hey ! Zorro ...Congratulate me buddy ...I have been appointed as a Honorary under grad professor of Snake Charming ..<<< 😆...in Maha Guruji's " Insitute of Weird sciences and Hell raising " .. ..Do ya want an admission ? ..Well ..I can help ya get by in that coveted school on payment of a nominal donation ...Um ...Your Left eye ...Hahaha ..Yay !! 😆 ..Trust me its the most exciting career anyone can think of ...So hurry up before the admissions close for the century ...cause the next batch ll begin only in the year 3013 ...😆

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Originally posted by: Vintage.Wine

^^^ Nuclear attacks on civilian settlements killing over 200,000 people ...Violating the 1922 regulations of air warfare ...

Women were raped by American soldiers near Yokohma ...after Japanese surrender And over 10,000 rapes ( Estimated ) of women in Europe especially in France, Germany and England ... ( Also refer to the 1945 testimonial in the US senate ..Of atrocities of the forces governed by Eisenhower over the German women.. ) during the WW II epoch ...😊

Vintu ...



Originally posted by: lonely0planet

sure, lets look chronologically

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_massacre, everyone is well aware of this
WWII
Bombing of Dresden in World War II- German city Dresden was bombed by Brit and US forces killing 22000 25000 civilians
Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - Vintu has provided most details
just a quote from wiki
"the attacks upon Hiroshima and Nagasaki caused such severe and indiscriminate suffering that they did violate the most basic legal principles governing the conduct of war."
Killings of civilians and POW in Italy, Germany Japan some of the massacres :
Canicatt massacre, Dachau massacre, Biscari massacre , Operation Teardrop
Another quote from wiki
According to an article in Der Spiegel by Klaus Wiegrefe, many personal memoirs of Allied soldiers have been willfully ignored by historians until now because they were at odds with the "Greatest Generation" mythology surrounding World War II. However, this has recently started to change, with books such as "The Day of Battle", by Rick Atkinson, where he describes Allied war crimes in Italy, and "D-Day: The Battle for Normandy," by Antony Beevor.[21] Beevor's latest work is currently discussed by scholars, and should some of them be proven right, it suggests that Allied war crimes in Normandy were much more extensive "than was previously realized
After the war
Zorro already mentioned Abu Gharaib torture and prisoner abuse
then comes Korean war, Vietnam (much of the barbaric acts are not even acknowledged), Yugoslavia bombing
War on terror(biggest joke so far)
which one do you want to defend?



V & lonely0planet, I am not looking to defend US for any war crimes, but rather to go in detail discussion about one of them...

Let's take what V quoted about US nuclear bomb killing hundred thousands in Japan.
Why did US nuk Japan, were their no other alternatives?
And if US refuses to oblige to ICC rules and regulation, how is the country to be trialed or brought to justice?

Edited by -Aarya- - 12 years ago

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