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Posted: 18 years ago
Yes Pri, I agree with you. At the end of it all, whether he did or he didnt is not the Qs. The Qs is will Bani forgive him this one - but nasty - midemeanour 😕 ?

If you think of Bani as an individual, I guess, she will. She will share the blame, realize she too played a key role in that ONS. And that will guide her to lets bygones be byegones. She loves him blindly.

On the other hand, she has placed him and her pathetic sis on pedestals...and their joint back-stab will definitely hurt. And if someone eggs her on (remember Roshni egging her after the PR confession?), she can do unmanageable damage to it all. And if Peabrain tells her its for the best that she leave JW, Pea and their baby alone, she will do just that. Again, she loves him blindly- and if she thinks thats how he's gonna be happiest, she will do that sacrifice act again...

GOW (God only knows) what'll happen...or shud I say Mai only knows? 😡
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Posted: 18 years ago
Piccola,

(At the end of it all, whether he did or he didnt is not the Qs. The Qs is will Bani forgive him this one - but nasty - midemeanour )

I dont get this if JW hasn't done it, where is the question of misdemaenour.

(On the other hand, she has placed him and her pathetic sis on pedestals)

Both of them must realise that they are humans after all and bound to make mistakes and that a successful marriage apart from trust and communication is also about forgiveness and guiding each other.

Rgds,

Pri



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Posted: 18 years ago
Hey! - allowing another woman, and that too your wife's sister to caress you and embrace you, and for you to do it back, is enough of a misdemeanour in my eyes 😡

Whether he went beyond that (and he doesnt remember), is the next step in nastiness.....but the first step was already taken..

Yup forgive and forget is a great idea, wonder if he's have done the same, esp if she was gonna have another man's child ! When he merely thought of it, he'd belittled her to every Tom, Dick and Harry...what wud he have done in this case?

Being Mahaan is no mean task...Bani maybe upto it...but when the other woman is her own sister, she may not find it easy...I wouldnt !
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Posted: 18 years ago
Swati,


If JW ends up with Pia or some other woman to console for Bani's departure then obviously he is not worth it.

But what if remains a basically good prson, single, faithful to her memory, contrite for his kartoot, mourns for her sake and takes good care of her other sister (Rano ) in Bani's absence. Then what?

Pri,
i am not sure but ya if he will be loyal to bani and will wait for bani and won't give any importance to pia and her child and will suffer and good care of rano in terms of brother sister or father daughter relationship then i might be able to forgive him.
Pri whether u noticed one thing in yesterday's episode that when they were sitting in the room drinking coffee or tea he wanted bani to come to him and make love rather him taking initiative, i was just wondering that whether he was behaving in that way so that later on bani cannot held him responsible for making love to her after having ONS or something else was on his mind.

on a lighter side,
i think jai was drinking viagra to make love to bani and after sipping viagra he went out in snow and his body suddenly got cold and he had a stroke as a side effect of viagra as he is already buddha and now will be taken to hospital.

swati


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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: piccola

Hey! - allowing another woman, and that too your wife's sister to caress you and embrace you, and for you to do it back, is enough of a misdemeanour in my eyes 😡

Whether he went beyond that (and he doesnt remember), is the next step in nastiness.....but the first step was already taken..

Yup forgive and forget is a great idea, wonder if he's have done the same, esp if she was gonna have another man's child ! When he merely thought of it, he'd belittled her to every Tom, Dick and Harry...what wud he have done in this case?

Being Mahaan is no mean task...Bani maybe upto it...but when the other woman is her own sister, she may not find it easy...I wouldnt !



piccola i agree with u that if bani may have done the same thing of having child from some other man whether jai may have accepted the child.
because at the time of anu's pregnancy even when Jai and bani have not started their relationship and rather they were not on good terms and jai was making life miserable for bani day by day he has thrown her out of the house, now how we can expect bani to forgive JW. on one hand we don't want bani to play role of a mahan person and other hand we ourself want her to play the mahan role. so don't u think that it shld be tit for tat like jw has thrown bani out from WM at the time of faking her pregnancy, it is high time that bani shld also disown Jw totally once ONS is out whether actual or alleged.

swati
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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: majumdar

Rose,

JW has no doubt that ONS has happened and would be shattered anyways if Bani leaves him. But the whole circumstance of CD (editing etc.) suggests that the whole thing was a frameup. And then there's history- Sujal-Jharu in KTH.

But you have a point which also I would like to happen in KS. Bani should "forgive" and accept him b4 she knows that the whole thing was a frame-up. She accepts him as a normal mortal who can make mistakes and also realises the circumstances under which it happened including her banigiri and her own conduct as a wife. She accepts him becuase her own happiness depends upon it.

But again if history is to be believed that is unlikely, Kash didnot accept Sujal till she got proof that Sujal was innocent.

Rgds,

Pri

JW doesn't remember anything other than hugging her... that is what i saw in the updates wherever it mentioned as i didn't see most of the episodes, ony read updates...

bani is to some extend paved the way for jai to end up with someone who is ready to show a shoulder for him... true... he was desperate and lonely and unable to share anything with anyone else... it was quite natural that he seeks a company, though he was pretty uncomfortable with pia he helplessly ended up talking to her... another way he helplessly ended up receiving her forced friendship/comapanionship..

but the show doesn't show bedtime sequences so we are not sure...

Rose

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Posted: 18 years ago

Originally posted by: swatinarang



piccola i agree with u that if bani may have done the same thing of having child from some other man whether jai may have accepted the child.
because at the time of anu's pregnancy even when Jai and bani have not started their relationship and rather they were not on good terms and jai was making life miserable for bani day by day he has thrown her out of the house, now how we can expect bani to forgive JW. on one hand we don't want bani to play role of a mahan person and other hand we ourself want her to play the mahan role. so don't u think that it shld be tit for tat like jw has thrown bani out from WM at the time of faking her pregnancy, it is high time that bani shld also disown Jw totally once ONS is out whether actual or alleged.

swati

swati,

there is one point now to notice that where bani positioned jai in her life... he is parameswar... he is trying to bring himself down to earth... that is most harmful situation here... if a couple already living with quarrels and disagreements then it will not be so obvious... here bani live like devotee to jai wali - seetha to ram- so the pain become unbelievable...

i don't kno w about kashis/sujal because i didn't see it. but here if he is redeemed then the problem is how will bani end up with guilt... otherwie if the whole thing was proved to be planned one then bani will understnad it was as an accident... yes an accident which on happen to be involve unintentionally...

Rose

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Posted: 18 years ago
I do see the point in the original post about Pia not knowing how Bani felt. However regardless of Bani or Jai's feelings, Pia WAS still MARRIED to Pushkar and she was committing adultery. Truthfully it is disgusting to go after a guy who has had sex with your sister, and that should have been enough to make her stay away. But Pia's character from beginning has been disgusting and selfish, that's why she dropped Pushkar and went for JW in the first place. Then when her selfishness again got the best of her she dumped JW at the wedding and ran off with Pushkar.

This character is one of those that is unredeemable no matter what. After the mother died Bani always made sure Pia had everything she wanted. That is the problem. Sometimes when you are used to having everything you want, you make demands even on things that do not belong to you. Technically, Jai did not belong to Pia, legally he belonged to Bani. For Pia this didn't mean anything; she wanted him, she took him. And her continually going after him knowing that her sister is madly in love with him shows how low she really is.

I have to say I hate the portayal of the Pia character, it is degrading to women, even though there are many women like her out there. I also hate the submissive, take any abuse roles of Bani and Raashi. And lets not discuss Jigyasa. However, the role of Rano is improving and shows that you can be respectful, supportive and strong and stand up for what is right in your life without being a doormat. My question is, why aren't there more roles like that in India Television?

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