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Posted: 12 years ago
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@ Kat beautifully written take and I can agree wholeheartedly on much of what you said and I can say that there have been a couple of post that made me not as...hurt by Aarti's decision. It took most of the night and a large part of this afternoon to acknowledge that the ache I felt most of yesterday after the episode was hurt (but there you have it). So thank you.

@ Meena
Just a stray question but could the guilt on Aarti's face have possibly been because she didn't recognize her baby?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: gmhatcher

@ Kat beautifully written take and I can agree wholeheartedly on much of what you said and I can say that there have been a couple of post that made me not as...hurt by Aarti's decision. It took most of the night and a large part of this afternoon to acknowledge that the ache I felt most of yesterday after the episode was hurt (but there you have it). So thank you.

@ Meena
Just a stray question but could the guilt on Aarti's face have possibly been because she didn't recognize her baby?

Gemma
Definitely that is another possibility that the guilt was due to the fact that she did not recognize her baby!
On another note I have to agree that I too feel terribly hurt about the decision Aarti took. Personally I have not had such an experience nor know anyone who has undergone one (of course now I know you). But I have treated a lot of people with childhood trauma who for years go about wondering
"Why did this happen to me? Why am I not like everyone else?"
Knowing how such experiences can devastate lives --- I was deeply troubled with the flippant attitude of the CVs and the cluelessness of some of the people whose posts I read. Somehow I am not totally at ease with myself anymore at watching such shows or participating in the forum!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Meena,
I can assure you once I realized that what I felt was hurt I was truly taken aback. I've worked with kids who for one reason or another feel "less than" and as twisted a sense of humor as I have I try to be careful of other people's images of themselves. Never having been exceptionally sensitive for some reason this hit me very hard, since childhood there are certain things I will not watch in film or on t.v. So along with the humiliating ( dance and bad kerioke) , and certain crimes against women and children I'm just going to have to add this to the list.
I sincerely hope that you do continue to raise your voice. The CVs may not listen, but someone will and if only one person rethinks their stance or is just willing to put them self in your place and try to see your point you've made a difference. And ultimately that's what we're here for...Right??? WOW...sorry that started sound a little preachy even to me.
Gemmy
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Smiley - CONGRATS on the colour change my sweet friend!! And thanks for your support.


@Nan - thank you!


@Aryaholic - yes, i really liked how KS and Leena played their parts. Difficult emotions to portray but wonderfully done while staying true to their characters.


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@Minu - thank you again.


@Gafulu - thank you.


@Srilanka - thank you for the resounding endorsement!


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: anonee

Hi Kat - is it OK if I address you as Kat?

I will be giving my 'frank' responses in bits and pieces to your beautifully written take. So here goes the first bit:
RE: 'When ArYa returned from the infamous hotel and Radha was going on and on about Arti being the greatest mom, she got Ayu back and deserves to - the predominant look on Arti's face was that of guilt.'
I noticed that guilt look too particularly when she took baby Aayu from Vedhika's arms into her own.
I wondered why? And my conclusion is different from yours.
Do you recollect when Ansh was returned during Yash's marriage to Ishita? How Aarti opened her arms and hugged him and kissed him all over the face? We never saw any such response for Aayu from Aarti did we?
She never once lifted his face and kissed him or held his baby face against hers. I do not know the answer as to why she treated Aayu differentially but one thing is for sure she had distanced herself as his mother in my eyes. Was she still doubting Ishita's words? Did she need proof that Pari's adopted baby was indeed hers? These and similar questions raced through my mind. And it is to these doubts that I attribute the guilt that I saw in Aarti's face.
I wondered if she was thinking "How do I tell Radha that I want 100% proof that this adopted infant of Pari's is indeed my baby?"



Of course you can call me Kat, Meena - everyone here does.

A confession first - i have not been a regular viewer of the show. A regular reader and follower yes, but viewer - no. So no, i did not see the scene where Ansh came back from the kidnappers. Was there a difference in how Arti reacted? I am not surprised to tell you the truth. I know we moms are not supposed to have favourites - but Arti-Ansh's case is different. For the longest time, he was the reason for her living. So when he was lost i can only imagine the anguish she went through. Besides the pain of losing a child, there would have been other layers - a sense of betrayal among them. Plus - he is her soft corner, her very own piece of heaven - so yes i can see how her reaction would be different.

Is it right? Shrug - no. As a mother of more than one child, i make a conscious effort to not show any "discrimination" in my displays of affection. But i also know many mothers who do not do so... Arti is better than those moms and her "favouritism" for Ansh only comes out when his safety and well being is threatened.

Your other point - was the guilt because she doubted the baby's identity? Very much possible, especially given the way Ishita "spilled the beans". Very - convenient. And if i were in Arti's place, i would have had my doubts too. But - i gave her the benefit of the doubt in this post. And i did feel she also had the guilt because of the effect she expected on Pari.

Do continue with your responses - that is if you feel like it after today. I expect i will still be visiting this forum, especially since my FF is ongoing.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06

Kat wonderfully written and totally agree with u 👏👏👏 ... There is a reason why its called fiction and not a reality show .. we got to watch it from that character's POV and not what we will do in their place .. what Aarti did there was totally in character and so even though I would hv preferred Aayu with AarYa only but I totally understand why Aarti took this tough decision ...

About the future consequences ,. again we dunno because show ends here and so we r suppose to assume that all will b well in future too ... if show was not ending , then we could hv debated on the consequences or whether Aarti's decision was right or wrong but since it ends , so there is no point debating over something which cannot b rectified ...




@bold - lol, true. Hence my post. I know fiction has an effect on people but we are mature enough here to be able to distinguish between fiction and reality.

Thanks for the reply Jyo.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Loveforlife

I can see in the near future... Pari parenting Aayu in a certain manner and Aarti completely overruling it with good intention of course, but Pari getting angry and ticking Aarti off! 😆

I feel this just because the Cvs have left Pari's character with loose ends and Aartis decision to give away Aayu was sudden and jarring. The Cvs did not build the story towards this finale. They sort of thopofied, I mean dumped it on us.

Giving away ones child is a serious issue and the time was too short for the cvs to give it proper justice, therefore should have been avoided completely.

Ok such adoptions do happen in the real world and I have nothing against them. But I am sure such decisions are well thought of before they are executed. I am sure its not like 'tere paas nahi toh mera le ke jao'!

Of course... the serial is on its last legs, serial world, enjoy last moments etc etc I can understand... therefore I will stop my blah blah...😊

This is my POV.. I do not expect or force anyone to understand or agree with it! 😊




Ah - the future scenarios would have been so much fun to watch Raveena. Arti-Pari fights, Pari finally "growing up", etc etc. Sigh...


Of course its a serious issue. And frankly as a mother i cannot fathom that action. Not saying it does not happen and i am sure when it does, people have valid reasons for it. But still...

Thank you for posting your POV - always love to hear from you. And just for the record - i am not condoning what Arti did. Just presenting a viewpoint that may help explain the thinking of the character we have all come to know and love as "Arti".
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: gmhatcher

@ Kat beautifully written take and I can agree wholeheartedly on much of what you said and I can say that there have been a couple of post that made me not as...hurt by Aarti's decision. It took most of the night and a large part of this afternoon to acknowledge that the ache I felt most of yesterday after the episode was hurt (but there you have it). So thank you.

@ Meena
Just a stray question but could the guilt on Aarti's face have possibly been because she didn't recognize her baby?




@bold - that was the point of this post Gemmy. Presenting a view of perhaps why Arti, the character, took the decision she did. I don't condone it, don't agree with it, i can foresee consequences that Arti perhaps has not thought through (and i bet she has not since she is such an instinctive person). But reams have been written about that. I just wanted to help bring a sense of letting go of the issue to PV-ians. So if i could help you get there Gemmy, i am happy.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: anonee

Knowing how such experiences can devastate lives --- I was deeply troubled with the flippant attitude of the CVs and the cluelessness of some of the people whose posts I read. Somehow I am not totally at ease with myself anymore at watching such shows or participating in the forum!



Don't stop expressing your views Meena - please. I am with Gemmy on this one.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: gmhatcher

@Meena,
I can assure you once I realized that what I felt was hurt I was truly taken aback. I've worked with kids who for one reason or another feel "less than" and as twisted a sense of humor as I have I try to be careful of other people's images of themselves. Never having been exceptionally sensitive for some reason this hit me very hard, since childhood there are certain things I will not watch in film or on t.v. So along with the humiliating ( dance and bad kerioke) , and certain crimes against women and children I'm just going to have to add this to the list.
I sincerely hope that you do continue to raise your voice. The CVs may not listen, but someone will and if only one person rethinks their stance or is just willing to put them self in your place and try to see your point you've made a difference. And ultimately that's what we're here for...Right??? WOW...sorry that started sound a little preachy even to me.
Gemmy



@underline - right there with you. There are some things i cannot and will not watch or read about.

@bold- 👍🏼. Well said.

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