Depravity vs Mental health issues

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Where do you draw the line between Depravity and mental health issues.

The recent rape and violent sexual attacks in Delhi got me thinking. Time and again i have seen some of the perpetrators of some of the worst crimes declare themselves as mental y unfit and try and get away from punishment. Especially the more horrendous the crime is, the more likely they are to be pronounced as mentally unfit.

So where does one draw the line?

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think there's a link between depravity and mental illness, they almost always come together. Because if we look closely, depravity itself could lead to mental issues. Dissatisfaction in excess can act as a mental disease. A person who is unable to control themselves, has no discretion and nothing weighing their conscience down commit such crimes. Depravity strikes me as yet more common, unpardonable but understandable on a psychological basis. It's the hardcore mental health issues that are hard to figure out. One can never be too sure. But in its entirety, I strongly feel that these crimes take place because people believe they can get away with them, one way or another.



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Posted: 12 years ago
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Mentally ill or not, these crimes are done by people who have no conscience. Mental illness might explain a person's behavior, but it rarely mitigates it. I don't think there needs to be a line drawn, treat a crime as a crime instead of creating more loopholes.

As it is, Most justice systems have too much red tape for the victims and too many loopholes for the offenders.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Agree with u.I read an article which said that the people who are doing these heinous crimes might have suffered these kinds of trauma in their young age. Unwanted children are more likely to engage in such crimes bcz of the neglect of their families.

As per the article the husbands who had witnessed their dad beating their mom as child were more likely to beat their own wives than men who had not witnessed such violence.Domestic violence in families should stop first.If a husband and wife fight in front of their children then it will surely affect the child too.I have seen so many kids like that.So its basically in the hands of the family to make sure that their children will grow up as a good citizen/human.

As per the survey boys are more vulnerable to child abuse than girls.

The possible solution suggested in the article is that legalisation of abortion so that there wont be any unwanted child.In US they are following it.I think our govt should block all the po*n websites and drugs and should increase the police force.

"We think sometimes that poverty is only being hungry, naked and homeless. The poverty of being unwanted, unloved and uncared for is the greatest poverty. We must start in our own homes to remedy this kind of poverty."
-Mother Teresa

Edited by bluesz - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: bluesz

The possible solution suggested in the article is that legalisation of abortion so that there wont be any unwanted child.In US they are following it.I think our govt should block all the po*n websites and drugs and should increase the police force.

Abortion s very much legal in India but that hasnt helped matters much. Some common factors noticed in recent rape cases in Delhi was the association of migrant population and alcohol. The 5 year girl hadnt done anything provocative but the men had been drinking and watching po*n that made them flip their lids and pounce on the nearest most vulnerable unsuspecting target .
There are lot of unauthorised settlements of migrant population in slums that crop up around parks. People do not feel safe in letting their children play in such parks as athey are now being seen as crime prone areas .It is sad that there are homeless people but does that mean that the public parks should be allowed to be encroached in such manner. Dont the regular residents have any rights to security? 😕
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Psychologists and neuropsychologists come into play when determining whether someone is mentally unfit. That requires a lot of tests etc, which can help determine whether the person is speaking the truth or not.

I am not sure how easy it is for a culprit to say they are mentally unfit and get away with it in India.

It shouldn't be.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: McNinja

Mentally ill or not, these crimes are done by people who have no conscience. Mental illness might explain a person's behavior, but it rarely mitigates it. I don't think there needs to be a line drawn, treat a crime as a crime instead of creating more loopholes.

As it is, Most justice systems have too much red tape for the victims and too many loopholes for the offenders.


Agreed! It explains the behaviour, however it does not excuse it.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: zorrro

Abortion s very much legal in India but that hasnt helped matters much. Some common factors noticed in recent rape cases in Delhi was the association of migrant population and alcohol. The 5 year girl hadnt done anything provocative but the men had been drinking and watching po*n that made them flip their lids and pounce on the nearest most vulnerable unsuspecting target .

There are lot of unauthorised settlements of migrant population in slums that crop up around parks. People do not feel safe in letting their children play in such parks as athey are now being seen as crime prone areas .It is sad that there are homeless people but does that mean that the public parks should be allowed to be encroached in such manner. Dont the regular residents have any rights to security? 😕


Abortion may be legal in cities but not in rural india.But I just said what was mentioned in the article.
Agree with u on po*n and alcohol.I lost my mob and then I found out that a neighbour kid only stole it.When I got back my mob from that kid and checked the cache o I was shocked.The kid was surfing through all the po*n sites.There are so many good things to learn from net and improve your knowledge.A 13 year old kid can only think of accessing po*n when he got the facillity
After hearing all these crimes i dont think any parent would allow their kid to play outside.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: bluesz

Abortion may be legal in cities but not in rural india.But I just said what was mentioned in the article.
Agree with u on po*n and alcohol.I lost my mob and then I found out that a neighbour kid only stole it.When I got back my mob from that kid and checked the cache o I was shocked.The kid was surfing through all the po*n sites.There are so many good things to learn from net and improve your knowledge.A 13 year old kid can only think of accessing po*n when he got the facillity
After hearing all these crimes i dont think any parent would allow their kid to play outside.

Abortion is legal in both cities as well as rural India 😊 The obsession with alcohol and po*n acquired at 13 may be difficult to outgrow in adulthood. That explains the rape with children and elderly and decently dressed . Once under the influence of alcohol and po*n the rapist is ready to pounce on any available victim.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: McNinja

Mentally ill or not, these crimes are done by people who have no conscience. Mental illness might explain a person's behavior, but it rarely mitigates it. I don't think there needs to be a line drawn, treat a crime as a crime instead of creating more loopholes.

As it is, Most justice systems have too much red tape for the victims and too many loopholes for the offenders.


This is very true. Mental illness can lead to lines of morality being crossed because one doesn't see the world in the same way. We see utterly depraved behaviour sometimes because of it. No way on earth does it excuse a crime being committed.

We also see depraved behaviour when one feels they can get away with absolutely anything - I believe anyone can succumb to that temptation. This is where justice must come in to show people that there are ramifications.


Edited by moomin4455 - 12 years ago

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