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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: princessjojo

Beautiful post Bheegi and so many other awesome posts!!! I read them all. Will respond here to bits and pieces from all.


aww..that's sweet. U write very well- would love more posts from you too:)

First off, Surbhi I love you so much. Today's episode was better than yesterdays for me too! Also, I too, LOVED the confrontation scene the MOST. So real! Next in line is the first scene with all three of them in Zoya's room The dream scene was alright, it comes last.

i agree, she excelled in the confrontation scene. This is the first time we saw her portray the hurt through sarcasm. What a versatile actress👏

Coming to Asad understanding that Zoya wants to stay: Hmm I don't think he did. My view is that if anything, he only hoped that Zoya maybe wants to stay. Here's how I interpret today's scenes: Asad was offended and hurt that despite all that they have gone through together, Zoya decided to go back without talking to and asking them whether they wanted her to go, particularly him, and also because she is throwing back his words at him and is forgetting all that care he has expressed for her through his actions. When Zoya talks about the visa to Zoya, he turns his head away as if scoffing at her reason and when she says she also doesn't have a reason to stay, he makes full eye contact with her as if challenging her "you really have no reason? what about me?" and then he leaves, still offended (and sad).

But if you recall, when they had the chat with the coffee, she did say, "i should leave...haina Mr. Khan?" But he didn't say anything, instead withdrew his hand. Even at night, he regretted that he had not asked her to stay. Just like Asad, Zoya also harbors this fear of rejection, especially now when she is so vulnerable. It would be expecting a lot from her to say, "i want to stay because of you Asad." Zoya knows Asad is capable of replying curtly, "kyun rehna chaahti hain aap? App tho mere liye misfit hain." He could very well say something like that. So, Asad needs to speak up here...he can't expect her to come running into his arms.

Then the confrontation scene. Same thing again. He repeatedly asks hoping she will say her departure is not a confirmed decision. And he takes all her mocking to heart. He does not understand that she is trying to provoke him into asking her to stay. She keeps saying yes she is going; he is hurt and does not know what to do. Then he stands outside her room thinking and decides about the employment papers..not because he has understood that she wants to stay but because he wants to know if she will stay back if she can...he wants her to act not under (the mask of) compulsion (visa expiration) but based on what her true desire is while hoping that her true desire is to stay back.

i think the visa issue acted as a buffer...as a third person that both could safely rely on. This way both were relieved of the burden of speaking the truth.

Then at night, like you all said, he conveniently throws the ball in her court in true Asad style: 'Zoya, now your visa excuse is gone. Now whether you go or not will tell me whether you think you have a reason to stay. Let's see what you do.' It's also his way of avoiding being direct (like you said Bheegi, because of his deep rooted fear of rejection and also because of some remnant denial) since currently he doesn't have it in him to lead decision making- he still needs to develop a lot before he reaches that point in his life where he acts with his heart and goes all out for her.

yeah, as i said, the visa made it easier for both. They both fear rejection and the visa acted as a glue to keep them together without acknowledging the real reason

It's his luck that Zoya understands him beyond his words and that she does not let her ego stop her from making life easier for him and cutting him some slack.

By the way, I also didn't quite like Zoya's immediate decision and verbalization of staying back. The CVs should have just ended the episode with a small smile playing on her face.

i think the directors have to do this for the rest of the junta that doesn't watch this show as carefully as we do lol

ps: I do not like it that Zoya (and Dilshaad) keeps saying she has no one in the world. She may have no blood relatives but her position is also not as bad as that of a truly orhpaned person. Her aapi and jeeju have fulfilled the role of parents. Sure there is still a big void in her life but she is being unfair when she says mein hamesha se akeli hoon. CVs, you don't have to exaggerate things to drive home a point.

again, that's to garner more sympathy from the audience.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: qhid

bheegi, for all this week's episodes...loved reading your summaries ...


Super hit

dialogue,
actors...all of them are terrific
song choices
scene when she talks in the car "maine kitni baar rehearsal ki hai...pehle yeh kahungi...phir yeh kahungi...phir yeh kahungi..." that scene...was just special...
today's scene: Asad beating around the bush..."confirmed...sunday...jaa raheen hain"...classic trouble for these kind of people...If Zoya hugged him then...there would be no story...happy ending ho jaata...he'd hug her tightly back and find his jannat right there...but trust me aise log kabhi keh nahin paten hain. Even after the show ends and we imagine Asad and Zoya happily married...he'll still be beating around the bush...hoping she'll say all the nice things, expressing her love and romance... while he soaks in the happiness...such fellows are shameless variety I tell you😆 never learn...they only just express when they yell and one is still in love with them...why I wonder...


Good point...there are a lot of men Iike Asad, the ones who never express but yell at any given opportunity. Agree, the last 3 episodes have been great for Asya lovers
Not so much

"aaa" the guy that ruins the beautiful instrumental bg score. terrible.

watched on TV for first time and the make up also looks like cheese cake..for the girls...these are pretty girls...very good looking...relax on the blush a little...

Tanveer...OTT action ...

scene between hum era and ayaan (the much much hot a hai scene)...didnt come across natural...was little contrived...
Asya scenes when they are suddenly serious while Zoya was goofing around a moment ago are sooo natural...Humeira and Ayaan didn't nail it like that.

Actually, i love the BG music...adds to the characters. Tanveer is an eyesore...literally 😆
Ayaan - humeira are still learning their ropes of acting

credit Anwar and Zeenat...they are her family...deserve more than one passing dialogue...

yeah, Zoya needs them more than ever. Hope to see them soon

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: friendsall

V gud analysis sangeeta n also ppl thruout dese pages!!! literally jumped wen zoe threw back his words at him... they r 2 complicated Ppl better known to demselves... loved d way asad retorted back wid d letter n nt stayg back to luk at her reaction coz he knew shw wud hv asked him d explanation why he got d letter too!!! and zoe out of all ppl had Bca to tell n BCA ll b all d more alert!!! hope all her plans backfires.. also den she plans to kill zoe.. but never wan zoe to b saved by gaffur n go to his house so soon...


Also why ppl dread Ay zoe track??? even if he betrays Razia he knws his dad s n danger!!! unless n until he gets a clue abt zoe s reaity ( rem he heard dmusic n saw d photo) he ll nt dare Razia!!! or if he go ahead wd d marg n den Hum knws d reason she ll reject him r he mite divorce once he gets to knw sum secret of Razia thkg he s savg Hume.. dis s hw predict d synopsis!!! also zoe ll b d one to help him sort da thgs!!!

Also if u c Rzia s downfall ll b thru d younger gen ppl... her own daughter, ayaan, zoe,asad n even bca a ll dg her grave n her dwnfall... also d older gen n her own gen pl cud nt do that is significant... however feel bca s her daughter who n d end l help zoe once she learns abt her own truth!!!

kabhi rocks...


thanks friendsall. Razia made a point yesterday: Humeira meri bet hai, main chahoon uske saath kuch bhi kar sakti hooh. Chahoon tho kuye mein phaink doon

That's how Tanveer and Razia are...they have no 'sagaa' people in life. They just care about themselves. Agree, would like to see the younger generation fight back
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ithasme

Hey! Bheegi, cool analysis of epi... It ws another fab epi.. Asya were just awesome.. The asad's dream imagination moment ws so well shot & dialogue were superb, add to that the beautiful mitwaa.. Ish qpe zorr nahi music in BG.. The reality check next scene ws cool watch.. Good that zoya will stay back.. Asya relations hv grown very well..


yeah, Asya rock!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: ritukaprithvi

Bheegi

Apt title once again...

@ princessjojo
Spot on ...you have made all the points I wanted to make too regarding Asad's thinking in this matter...Asad wanted her to admit that she wil stay because Asad means something to her and not hide behind a "visa reason"
That is why he called her bluff...Asad has come this far ( holi scene ) only because he believes that she cares about him too ( jealously banter )... And wants her to stay for him...


Thanks ritu. Yeah, asad wants her to say it but when she asked him (during that coffee scene) whether she should leave, he just stayed quiet and withdrew his hand. He needs to take the initiative here IMO
the visa acted as a buffer for both...they didn't need to say what they really wanted
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: princessjojo



Yes his newfound belief in the last few days with the jealousy track that she too cares for him has been threatened by her sudden decision to go back. He is now hurt and wondering if all that jealousy, all those convos, those pranks, all that interdependence didn't mean as much to her as he was thinking it did. He wants to know if she will stay given a choice at a decision made with free will, thereby confirming for him that the feeling of care is mutual. Needless to say, of course he desperately hopes she will.


Yeah, but zoya did say, even if i stay for some more time but 'kabhie na kabhie tho mujhey jaana hi hoga.' She needs assurance that she can stay there forever (with Asad) but Asad has already mentoned that she is not marriage material...so she has no right to stay. I agree with Zoya here. She has a lot of self respect and while her search for abbu was on, she tolerated a lot of humiliation, but now, even though asad has shown affection, unless he proposes marriage to her, why would she stay? The visa just made it easier for now

I like how we are avoiding using the word love and referring to it as care instead. I think it reflects Asad's understanding of what he is experiencing very well.

It is interesting to note that when Zoya uttered the word pyaar he looked up. I think he is one step closer (but still a few steps away from) to understanding that his feelings are pyaar and not just care.


yes, i noticed that too...it was a well directed scene
Edited by bheegi - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: mallik4ever

Lovely post as always bheegi di

Asya in bedroom (not the dream but the reality) is the highlight for me too. ksg/surbhi jutified to the T yet again

Tanveer is making it obvious that she does not want Zoya, not sure how much longer till these people realize her true colors.


yeah loved their confrontation

Tanveer mentioned that she is here to stay...so she might be here for a while

thanks mallik

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