Hum Tum Se Na Kuch Keh Paaye-Epi Apr 4

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ham tumse na kuch kah paye
tum hamse na kuch kah paye
lagta hai dar ye bat ye dil ki
dil me na rah jaye

- movie Ziddi




"Aap meri zindagi se kab rukhsat hongi?"



"Apne naam
ka nameplate lagwaa leejiye darwaaze par!"



"Aap jahan
jaati hain, museebat khadi kar deti hain."



"Agar
aapko is mulk se itni problem hai, tho wapas kyun nahin chali jaati aap?"



"Aap mere
ghar ke liye misfit hain. Aap meri tho kya, kisi ki bhi bahu ban ne ke laayak
nahin hain."







They both
remember everything he has ever said to her. She made it a point to remind him
that he has always wanted her to leave, and finally she is leaving, this
country and his life, forever. Then why isn't he happy? Why isn't he looking
forward to her departure? Why is he dreaming of confessing to her that he wants
her to stay? He doesn't know why he wants her to stay, but he does want her to
stay. Asad, a man, who is very clear headed just like his neat room and desk. A
man who revels in facts, the truth and honesty; who gets upset when people
fumble or lie to him, hates cluttered thinking is currently the most tangled
person in his household.





Dilshaad is
very clear- she wants Zoya to stay because she has become so attached to her
and loves to have her around.





Najma- loves
Zoya as a sister and hates to see her go that soon.





Tanveer: of
course is on a mission and would rather see Zoya leave ASAP. She has even made
remarks about how her visa is going to expire and no one should try to hold her
back.





Zoya: A woman,
completely distraught by the incidents of the last few days really wants to
stay back. She loves Dilshaad as her own mom, Najma as her own sister and
Asad..yes, of course she loves him more than she realizes. That's why her gaze kept
traveling back and forth to park itself at Asad's direction as she spoke to
Dilshaad and Najma. As if she was searching for answers, expecting to see a
glint in his eyes, hoping to hear those three words from him 'ruk jao Zoya'





Yes, he said
those three words, but to himself, in his dreams. Remember, he had said, "aap
mere khwabon mein saaya bankar kyun aati hain?" He dreams about her day and
night, but just hasn't mustered the courage to make these dreams real.





Couldn't you
read it in her eyes, Asad. She really wanted to hear it from you. Zoya is
right. She has no right to stay back, she is a guest, just a relative of a
distant acquaintance, and she needs to go back. Najma and Dilshaad can ask her
to stay for a few more days, but she doesn't want to be a perpetual guest in
this house. Asad, do you have the courage to ask her to stay back forever? Can
you give her the right she deserves? You love her more than you will ever love
any other woman. You have practically lived like a married couple the last few
months, then why is your thinking so warped right now?





Thank God, Asad
acted on his instincts. Of course, it would have been ideal if he had confessed
directly, but Zoya knows Asad well. She knew all along what he wanted to say,
that's why she even threw those barbs at him, hoping to hear a counterattack
from him. Perhaps, just like the cheesecake, he might just surprise her and
say, "Zoya'I want you to stay." She didn't expect him to say anything more. For
her, just his desire to have her stay back is enough validation that he cares
for her. That's why the employment letter came as relief to her. Zoya has
learnt to accept Asad as he is. She didn't call him emotionally challenged
today, didn't yell and say,"why can't you say, you care?" For her, his actions
have started speaking more than his words. As their relationship grows, they
will probably never need to say things directly to each other. They will
resolve their issues themselves, learn how to read each other's actions and
intentions and hopefully, never let anyone else interfere in their lives.







So, Tanveer's
first plan is about the backfire thanks to the employment letter. Hope Zoya can
continue to understand her Mr. Khan and not get swayed by external forces.







Loved the
episode, especially the AsYa scenes. KSG and SJ's scene in the bedroom was the
highlight for me.







Predictions:





1.
Ayaan will now refuse the
nikaah because he cares for Humeira? He wants her to marry someone who loves
her as much as she loves Ayaan? I am not sure I understand that logic but looks
like that's how Ayaan is thinking.





2. I wish we had no SBS/SBB
segments. I would have loved to predict how Tanveer would be defeated in her
evil game by Asad's employment letter but I guess we have more
misunderstandings to come. Hasn't Tanveer taken a big risk here? What if Asad
had confessed his feelings to Zoya and proposed marriage to her? Tanveer would
have a hard time breaking that alliance in such a short time, especially given
the fact she is pregnant.










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Posted: 12 years ago
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I stayed up just to read your post and comment! 😊

Todays episode was subtle and amazing. Karan and Surbhi are just superb actors. The scene in the bedroom, as you pointed out, was just superb. Asad constantly asking her if she is really leaving and Zoya, despite knowing the answer to that question, taunting him on every horrible thing he said to her. I am glad their bitter interactions haven't been dusted under the rug. It makes their relationship more meaningful when the audience can see that this couple does have issues but despite those issues have a bond like no other. Whether they admit it to anyone or not AsYa's bond possibly transcends everyones...including Asad's relationship with his brother. Her acceptance of who he is even though she knows him to be a chauvinist and Asad's acceptance of her even though she supposedly goes against everything his tehzeeb dictates. I am absolutely loving the way their relationship is developing. Could it be for the first time on telly that there is a realistic development to a romantic story?

I don't believe Ayaan doesn't love Humeira...however he doesn't know or even realize it yet. In yesterdays episode he made a comment about falling for a modern girl...but does he even know how he is defining modern? To me right now he just comes across as an immature teen who doesnt know what to do with the girl who is crushing on him/fallen in love with him. He needs a massive emotional upheaval when it comes to Humeira.

I know a lot of people are worried again that ZoYaan is happening...speculating Tanveer creating an MU between AsYa...my only answer to that is...at this point, since nothing other than Asad and his family, is keeping Zoe in India...if there is a massive blow out between AsYa, Zoe could just go back to her home...her country...the US. She isn't obligated to stay in the country.

And as per usual- Great post Bheegi!
Edited by delena90 - 12 years ago
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Beautifully written😊 I loved the epi..Right from the dream sequence to the confrontation, everything was pitch perfect..KSG and Surbhi nailed it..The dream sequence was beautiful on so many levels..His eyes did all the talking and his words were filled with so much emotion..Of course Asad is yet to muster the courage to tell all this to Zoya in reality.Am so glad Zoya threw his words back at him and Asad for once had no answers..The fact that Zoe understood him with just a small gesture on his part speaks volumes about the kinda relationship they share.Looks like .Zoya has realised that Asad doesn't mean half the things he says and doesn't say most of the things he really means😆 Asad is really lucky in this regard cos it just takes the smallest of efforts to make Zoya happy..She never wanted to go in the first place and was just looking for the tinniest of hints from Asad to change her decision..Once she deciphered that he too wanted the same, she din even expect him to verbalize his wish..Asad, on the other hand is just too happy to let other people make decisions and so long as he isn't required to exert himself, all is well😆 Tannu's interference may prove to be a blessing in disguise cos Asad may probably be compelled to speak..
P.S. Asad's inability to speak at such crucial junctures kinda scares me Am sure damage may not be done this time but this trait of his is likely to cos problems in the future..Either Asad needs to learn to open his mouth or Zoya needs to understand that Asad is a man of action and impulsively blurts out stuff which he never means😆
Edited by rogerrocks - 12 years ago
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sorry guys..just updated my post. The formatting is a bit off...tried to fix it but couldn't. Hope you are able to read it properly
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beautiful post di...loved the way you wrote the contrast between the past and present behaviour of asad!!!!

you said it all in the post...its very difficult for asad to accept his feelings nd his big ego prevents him from confessing that he wants zoya to stay...but he can't see her leaving nd stops her in his own style...nd zoya was really gud today...she gave him the reality check that he so needed!!!

she understands her akdu ahmed khan so perfectly...she knew that the employment letter is asad's way of saying that he can't see her leaving...asya are true soulmates,they understand each others actions so well!!

and ur prediction is really nice...that bandar ayan will not marry humaira so easily...nd humaira too deserves someone better(but in the end it will be ayan nd humaira only)...

Edited by ..vidhi.. - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: bheegi



Couldn't you

read it in her eyes, Asad. She really wanted to hear it from you. Zoya is
right. She has no right to stay back, she is a guest, just a relative of a
distant acquaintance, and she needs to go back. Najma and Dilshaad can ask her
to stay for a few more days, but she doesn't want to be a perpetual guest in
this house. Asad, do you have the courage to ask her to stay back forever? Can
you give her the right she deserves? You love her more than you will ever love
any other woman. You have practically lived like a married couple the last few
months, then why is your thinking so warped right now?

I Think he read her eyes...that's y he came home with the employment letter...do u remember after mangulpur epi, when he gave her the ipad n phone and zoya asked 4 the reason behind his action...he gave her the same reason of hers for making that haldi paste for him...means he was hurt by those words...even today he was hurt by those words he said to her backfiring to him...unlike that day he just walked away as she accepted his reason for her to stay back.

Loved the

episode, especially the AsYa scenes. KSG and SJ's scene in the bedroom was the
highlight for me.

even me... i very much enjoyed their Scenes today... especially the way she reminded him of his own words from the past...they way he introduced her to his bestie tanu...i just loved the way how she gave the exact words as the reason for her leaving to dilshaad ( indirectly to ASAD...)the expressions KSG gave 👏WOW...well...Surbhi-nothing to say she is a super⭐️


Predictions:

1.
Ayaan will now refuse the
nikaah because he cares for Humeira? He wants her to marry someone who loves
her as much as she loves Ayaan? I am not sure I understand that logic but looks
like that's how Ayaan is thinking.


yeah i feel the same... has he is not ready to take any responsibilities yet... he has said it himself b4...

2. I wish we had no SBS/SBB
segments. I would have loved to predict how Tanveer would be defeated in her
evil game by Asad's employment letter but I guess we have more
misunderstandings to come. Hasn't Tanveer taken a big risk here? What if Asad
had confessed his feelings to Zoya and proposed marriage to her? Tanveer would
have a hard time breaking that alliance in such a short time, especially given
the fact she is pregnant.


NO sangeetha... she is the best in judging people... she know her jammy very well than he does... her moves are perfectly planned n executed, after woh razia B ka assistant jo hai...

@bold black points are my comments
Edited by Npdeepa - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Awesome post. Loved todays episode especially ASYA scenes, then read your post and felt that I was watching another QH episode.
I love the way Gul is portraying Asad and Zoya's characters and their relationship.
They both are so madly in love, their eyes speaks volumes to each other, their heart understands too yet they both stubbornly refuse to acknowledge their feelings to themselves.
They both always want to know if the other person is important to them and always taking steps that involves the commitment from the other half to complete the whole action of wanting to be with each other or moving the relationship on to the next level.
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Great post!

I loved the confrontation scene. Surbhi was just brilliant in that. The dream sequence was perfect If only, it had been real. It was just so beautiful. Asad kept fumbling, struggling for words to tell her to stay back, but just couldn't. And Zoya, she just wanted the tiniest of hints from him in order to not go and for that she kept on looking at him on and off. I really like the way their relationship has progressed and how beautifully it has been shown to us. In fact that's what I love about the show, the characterisation. Its outstanding. He didn't want her to let go and came back with the employment and the smile that appeared on Zoya's face when she said main kahin nahi jaa rahi hu, that was just priceless. Loved every bit of the AsYa scenes today. Though Tanveer is going to create MUs between them, I wish her plans backfire and we get to see more progression in AsYa's relationship. Hated that look on her face when she said she'll wipe Asad's tears with her dupatta. Little does she know that it is only Zoya's dupatta that can have any sort of effect on him 😆

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Originally posted by: delena90

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I stayed up just to read your post and comment! 😊


OMG...don't lose sleep over my post dear. It's def not worth it

Todays episode was subtle and amazing. Karan and Surbhi are just superb actors. The scene in the bedroom, as you pointed out, was just superb. Asad constantly asking her if she is really leaving and Zoya, despite knowing the answer to that question, taunting him on every horrible thing he said to her. I am glad their bitter interactions haven't been dusted under the rug. It makes their relationship more meaningful when the audience can see that this couple does have issues but despite those issues have a bond like no other.

absolutely ! Most couples start lovey dovey in real life and then face these kind of issues but Asya are doing it in the reverse order. That's why in the long run their love will be stronger:)


Whether they admit it to anyone or not AsYa's bond possibly transcends everyones...including Asad's relationship with his brother. Her acceptance of who he is even though she knows him to be a chauvinist and Asad's acceptance of her even though she supposedly goes against everything his tehzeeb dictates. I am absolutely loving the way their relationship is developing. Could it be for the first time on telly that there is a realistic development to a romantic story?

yeah, they have this unspoken bond. Even if they try to hurt each other, they just end up getting closer to each other. With Ayaan, Asad is more like an indulging older brother...it's not a two way street.

I don't believe Ayaan doesn't love Humeira...however he doesn't know or even realize it yet. In yesterdays episode he made a comment about falling for a modern girl...but does he even know how he is defining modern? To me right now he just comes across as an immature teen who doesnt know what to do with the girl who is crushing on him/fallen in love with him. He needs a massive emotional upheaval when it comes to Humeira.

I hope Humeira rejects him this time...remember she shut the laptop on his face. I think that means she won't accept him till he learns how to truly value her

I know a lot of people are worried again that ZoYaan is happening...speculating Tanveer creating an MU between AsYa...my only answer to that is...at this point, since nothing other than Asad and his family, is keeping Zoe in India...if there is a massive blow out between AsYa, Zoe could just go back to her home...her country...the US. She isn't obligated to stay in the country.

yeah, good point but I have a feeling this Tanveer-Razia game is going to be evil and long lasting. Zoya will get trapped somehow and then she might actually find her dad also but I have no doubt that AsYa will not be able to stay away from each other for too long

And as per usual- Great post Bheegi! Thanks Delena...sweet dreams

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Beautifully written😊 I loved the epi..Right from the dream sequence to the confrontation, everything was pitch perfect..KSG and Surbhi nailed it..The dream sequence was beautiful on so many levels..His eyes did all the talking and his words were filled with so much emotion..Of course Asad is yet to muster the courage to tell all this to Zoya in reality.Am so glad Zoya threw his words back at him and Asad for once had no answers..The fact that Zoe understood him with just a small gesture on his part speaks volumes about the kinda relationship they share.Looks like .Zoya has realised that Asad doesn't mean half the things he says and doesn't say most of the things he really means😆 Asad is really lucky in this regard cos it just takes the smallest of efforts to make Zoya happy..She never wanted to go in the first place and was just looking for the tinniest of hints from Asad to change her decision..Once she deciphered that he too wanted the same, she din even expect him to verbalize his wish..Asad, on the other hand is just too happy to let other people make decisions and so long as he isn't required to exert himself, all is well😆 Tannu's interference may prove to be a blessing in disguise cos Asad may probably be compelled to speak..
P.S. Asad's inability to speak at such crucial junctures kinda scares me Am sure damage may not be done this time but this trait of his is likely to cos problems in the future..Either Asad needs to learn to open his mouth or Zoya needs to understand that Asad is a man of action and impulsively blurts out stuff which he never means😆


Thanks Roger. It's hard for people to change. Asad is very outspoken about non heart related matters but when it comes to matter of the heart, he is stingy with words unless it involves Ayaan.
With time, Zoya will learn to understand him better or teach him how to express himself better (remember cheesecake was a rip off from zoya's school of expression)
Hope Tannu's pregnancy is revealed soon but she wears such loose clothes, she could go on forever like this😆

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