Episode 236 Discussion: 3rd April 2013

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Episode 236 Discussion: 3rd April 2013

Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

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It helps in keeping the forum clean without much litter. People just need to fall in a habit.
We can have it like breathers at first followed by analysis.
It also helps like-minded souls and pals bond and gel together to drop in their thoughts for themselves as breathers and for their friends as a peep into the episode and for others to post their reviews.
And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.
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Today's LU from : Armu4eva

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3518012/3rd-april-wu-sulbala-and-rishbala-holi-haii

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There are various other threads all over the forum. Please check out those as well. This is just one choice out of so many.
Readers are encouraged to post links of other members posts which had been "delightful read" towards analysis of episodic event/s or character analysis. It becomes an easy navigation in the myriad of posts and pages and can easily be overlooked.
The link to present day ED thread is always provided in the previous one discussed.Those who participated in previous thread can go to my posts and check the previous thread to get access to new link.

The link to Previous Episode thread if anyone wants to trace and post thoughts there. https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3516223/episode-235-discussion-2nd-april-2013

Collated EOD summary of 2nd Apr 2013 Episode discussion, if one is just reading updates and not watching the episodes. https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/79675143�

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Episode 236 Discussion - EOD Summary

Holi Hai !!! Sultan wins the contest of "Who colors Madhu first" and Rishabh Kundra wins the contest of Who plays the Dhol for long".

Events of the Episode

Madhu plays Holi with Padmini, Chawl friends, Aryan and saves herself from being colored by anyone. While playing Holi she mothers Aryan with extra attention; breaking the dance and paying attention to what Aryan is eating. Madhu is dancing to "Rangeela Maro Dholna, Dholna Re". Sultan is watching her. RK driving thru car has reached Chawl. Watches Madhu dancing.
As dance ends he gets ready to color Madhu. [He somehow insanely has imagined that Madhu would be left uncolored and wait for him. He is insanely thinking that Madhu exists in some paranormal world where her Mother or friends or other chawl neighbours will keep her uncolored for him waiting for him so that he can color her first.] As he walks in slow motion for at least 5 minutes, when Madhu has felt an odd presence in the space; Madhu has simultaneously taught Aryan how to play Holi with his father. Aryan goes and pumps colored water him. Sultan smiles and he too gets ready to play with Aryan with color filled hands. However missteps on a pichkaari, causing him to lose balance and thus accidentally becomes the first one to color Madhu. Red color has fallen on her forehead. RK watching all this is flustered that he lost it, he was not the first one to color her. He drops color from his hand, stops in his tracks.
Sultan apologizes to Madhu, MB says its okay and then Aryan and Sultan start playing where Aryan causes Sultan to fall down. Madhu gives a hand lift support for Sultan to get up. Sultan smilingly takes the hand and this is all being observed by RK, who is obviously burning in jealousy.
Padmini leaves, asks Madhu to come after finishing her play. Sultan picks up a Dhol and starts playing it. Madhu sees him enjoying at that. She is elated and all in smiles. Soon they both hear another drum sound. They don't know who the drummer is. Sultan starts playing too, but the other drummer is playing it non-stop. It is revealed that it is RK all smeared in red color. RK continues to beat the drums and he drowns Sultan's drumming. He wins the competition. 😆
Then Sultan keeps his drum down, RK keeps his drum down. RK then pulls Madhu towards him. Sultan tries to intervene. RK stops him and says "She is my wife". Sultan retreats with Aryan and Kaka. RK and Madhu start dancing over Piya ki Rang Deeni song in mixed Bollywood and Contemporary dance. An upset Sultan watches them as a happy RK with a new kind of intensity and passion, creates conflict for Madhu who is helplessly drawn drawn to him, yielding to him, in pain for being still affected by him. Episode ends with them in each others embrace.

Episode Reviews

Page 1 - Angeena, SD, apolloartemis, Charu, leelaa9

Page 2 - Athena90, pnars, supercool3, SD,

Page 3 - AreYaar, apolloartemis, lovehappiness, amrithas

Page 4 - i-me-myself, lovehappiness, Sub_Ram, AreYaar, pnars, anastasia21, Soundarya22

Page 5 - Escape.My.Love., river123, dramacrazy12, ennishet

Page 6 - himbin, armummy, Red_Opium, AreYaar, Ananya05, anastasia21

Page 7 - AreYaar, JasperJazz, Angeena, Red_Opium. himbin. Charu

Page 8 - dramacrazy12, SD

Page 10 - supercool3

Page 11 - UDEY, MarathiMulgi, SD

Page 12 - kt25

Page 13 - himbin, MarathiMulgi

Page 14 - SD, cardio21, i-me-myself

Page 15 - Arshidiehardfan, cardio21

Page 16 - UDEY, Charu, MarathiMulgi

Page 17 - SD, river123, Fazzyboom

Page 18 - cardio21, Charu, SD

Page 19 - Sweetdear - The dance as danced and emotion that it expresses for Rishabh and Madhu exclusively and inclusively.

Syl's Pictorial Commentary

Originally posted by: undisclosed
I had to summon Charlie Brown to tackle the main points of the epi for me...

anastasia21: Sadly this is what the new tracks are all about. Quash one obnoxious thing with another. And let the fandom be at war.

Originally posted by: undisclosed

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last one for now...interpret at your own risk!

river123 : Awesome! A nice light respite after all the wonderfully passionate posts!

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Link to Media thread 3

Link to Media Articles, Videos & Future Track Discussion-3

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3519750/media-articles-videos-and-future-track-discussion-3

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Angeena

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Aryan was so cute. And Sultan was smiling looking at him. 👍🏼

And since Madhu danced beautifully to aao re maro dholna, her dholna came playing a dhol. But editing to put RK in the song was too good. As Sultan was being dragged to play, RK was making his way towards his prey, sorry, ex-wife, sorry biwi. That BG was just all foreboding. And showing that poster of Ahankaar only added to it.

Which was justified by the fact that Sultan colors Madhu first. Not good.. Though Aryan's laugh was just too sweet. RK was so totally burning up.. with jealous, possessiveness and hopefully his ego will go up in smoke.

What was that impromptu dhol playing contest? 😆 Trying to show each other who's the boss? That's how you fight it out. But Sultan walked away with Aryan. I guess he respects the fact that RK-Madhu are miya-biwi. Not to mention he remembers RK's talks when he was drunk.

And then came my favorite part My RishBala!! Missed you so much! Sultan eat your heart out. Madhu sirf aur sirf RK ki hai. If only Madhu's face hadn't shown so much pain and conflict.. Well, you can't have everything. RK on the other hand just wanted the world to see that Madhu was, is and will always be his. Bas haq hai ek RK ka.

Alright being rational .. After everything RK has done how come Madhu is letting him hold her. She didn't want the man to touch her and now this. No sense there. Why didn't she try to get away more. Because her buried love for RK betrayed her. All in the name of drama (which I'm enjoying) and love triangle (which I'm not enjoying at all). And Madhu is still not realizing the effect she is having on Sultan. I pity him. Stuck between RK and Madhu and their love story he will become history. RK is as shameless as ever, he hasn't changed on that front yet.

Loved the episode so so much. ❤️ Two back to back brilliant episodes which remind me of the old MEIEJ which rarely gave a reason to be upset. ⭐️

And they have given another amazing precap.. RishBala again!! Bring it on CVs!

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Couldn't watch the episode. Very distasteful for my personal taste.

Both the man and wife are made for each other. Two crazy people and shameless. One doesn't know how flirtatious she seems and other doesn't know where to draw the line. He comes shamelessly there and she allows him to dance with her. Couldn't she have escaped to her Apartment ? How difficult was that ?!!1

Why O Why ? Men like Sultan have to fall for a woman who is available and yet not available. He doesn't look crazy. Doesn't he know the rules of this crazy show that he needs to be crazy to be with Madhu forever. Sigh !!!

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Originally posted by: 0-SD-0
Couldn't watch the episode. Very distasteful for my personal taste.

Both the man and wife are made for each other. Two crazy people and shameless. One doesn't know how flirtatious she seems and other doesn't know where to draw the line. He comes shamelessly there and she allows him to dance with her. Couldn't she have escaped to her Apartment ? How difficult was that ?!!1

Why O Why ? Men like Sultan have to fall for a woman who is available and yet not available. He doesn't look crazy. Doesn't he know the rules of this crazy show that he needs to be crazy to be with Madhu forever. Sigh !!!

Shri I have to ask since I'm not quiet sure of the intricacies- why is Sultan coloring Madhu first such a big deal? Is it ritual or tradition that the significant other color each other?
I also found it interesting that he colored Madhu's forehead, not her maang.
And RIshbala pda was...well a little distasteful to be honest. Agree with you there. It was all about ownership, and I'm sure everyone in the chawl is wondering what is actually going on given that RK publicly humiliated Madhu there...

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a well balanced episode in my opinion..i liked it very much.

Madhu's dance was good, so was "pyar ke geet zara sun le main aaya re" , RK driving DD is an excellent dancer..she dances effortlessly bec. she enjoys it I'm not too fond of the song but nevertheless, DD made it worth a watch for me..

RK finally arrived at the chawl gate...now how much area is that? 50 sq meters? Madhu again SENSING his presence..her radar never fails...so in that area, RK could see Madhu , Madhu could not see RK, Sultan & Co., Padmini could not see RK and RK toh as such doesn't recognize the new family..the hide and seek for 5 mins was annoying..

I liked that little scene of Aryan and Sultan..I've almost forgotten now what it was..kuch toh acha tha 😕 that's Rishbala effect on me..sorry..

Before Sulbala fans celebrate and Rishbala fans mourn, Sultan bhai ACCIDENTLY puts color on MADHU, not in her maang..neither did she want him to put, nor was he willing to do it...it was a scene created only for RK to see and so were all of them in which Madhu is happy and glee as if she's Mrs Sultan...nyhow, I'm happy RK was not the first one to put color on Madhu...pehle gussa karna bandh karo 😡 what is this "me first" bug? i'm also infected with it 🤣 how was he so sure that nobody will put color on Madhu before he arrives?

Rk backing off, only to make a heroic comeback...the episode was edited well today..the entry and exit of diff. ppl. at diff. points created suspense...Padmini made an exit...Sultan bhai and his dhol, sorry that was way too hilarious 🤣 he was in love with dhol or what? and there we have our hero making a re-entry with the dhol again..Bhai chalo apna dhol peetna bandh karo bec. ab sirf RK ka dhol bajayega...RK won the dhol competition and donated the dhol to Bhai..jao dono baja lo ! 🤪

the end part was unadulterated RK-Madhu moment ...all the audiences left the scene..Sultan bhai ko balcony se best view mila their dance was stupendous..i'm too biased towards them to not like them...there were undercurrents of junoon & possessiveness which I didn't like...but aisa laga jaise RK gave a clear message to Madhu that she belongs to him only and Madhu didn't give a damn..fine with that ! she could not stop him from dancing with her and she could not stop herself...hated the interruptions they had by showing Sultan bhai's face..🤢 Why does he have to react at all?

precap, again Rishbala but prolly for a short moment..another Bhai will be making a grand entry..

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Originally posted by: apolloartemis

Shri I have to ask since I'm not quiet sure of the intricacies- why is Sultan coloring Madhu first such a big deal? Is it ritual or tradition that the significant other color each other?
I also found it interesting that he colored Madhu's forehead, not her maang.
And RIshbala pda was...well a little distasteful to be honest. Agree with you there. It was all about ownership, and I'm sure everyone in the chawl is wondering what is actually going on given that RK publicly humiliated Madhu there...

AA, it's about doing the rituals of each festival the first time it comes after marriage *with* the spouse, even in extreme estrangement.

It can work as reconciliation, apology, proclamation of love and devotion, and sundry other meanings.

And the difference between covering the forehead with colour and filling the maang instead...

It's like Madhu got *engaged* to Mukund - ring-ceremony et al - but then finally *married* RK.

And in the scene that was unfolding, the chawl residents are not likely to have considered it even remotely a humiliation for Madhu that her estranged husband (who is still her husband) staked his claim so publicly and forcefully after another man applied colour on her.

People do not generally colour those of the other gender on the face except in close ties.

Here, it was accidental. But it was nevertheless too close to the societal lines.

Also, they are aware of the considerable melodramas that have attended this particular conjugal union from both parties - including Shamsher's trying to kill RK and not being put away for it.

Or RK's recently waiting out in the chawl courtyard in the windy night for the missing Madhu to return.

The couple tends to have had a very tempestuous time very publicly, with at least the chawl residents in the know of most of the good and the bad.

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I actually disagree with the both of you (SD and Apollo), I thought it was taken and shows the dichotomy that Madhu is in pretty well. While she attempts to get away from him, she can't deny she's attracted to him still. She just can't break free when he's nearby and he still is able to make her "dance". I thought this was finally a good and logical character deepening of Madhu and compared to the stupidity she's been doing recently (harboring a "good natured" murderer is still stupid, especially given this girl was sooo righteous to send a filmstar and her Mallik to prison for attempted murder).

What I thought was distasteful was the way Sultaan was staring at the two while they were dancing. Dude, stop glaring trying to melt them with your powers of sight. He can see she's still into him. MOVE ON with your son!

I love the song. Anyone know what's the title and where its from?

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Originally posted by: apolloartemis

Shri I have to ask since I'm not quiet sure of the intricacies- why is Sultan coloring Madhu first such a big deal? Is it ritual or tradition that the significant other color each other?
I also found it interesting that he colored Madhu's forehead, not her maang.
And RIshbala pda was...well a little distasteful to be honest. Agree with you there. It was all about ownership, and I'm sure everyone in the chawl is wondering what is actually going on given that RK publicly humiliated Madhu there...

There was NO Humilation. As man and wife they were having steps that are coming across to you as humiliation. Watch for more Bollywood films. All the reluctant heroines, having these guilty pleasures act like that.

And yes, ownership; it was there. Why not ? If the woman is senseless enough to be giving flirtatious advances to other men, then her man who has rights on her will behave like that...everyone knows this.

If Madhu really had to be a decent woman, she could have acted like one...not like Rekha of Silsila. Madhu is as passionate as she can get. She doesn't exercise restraints. So she is okay with Rishabh's gestures. Men like Rishabh don't go out and do it just for the kicks...his woman made him act like that. And please ...don't give me explanations...I know what I am talking. I never liked Silsila ...

Holi...there's a decent one, there's a passionate one. Madhu being a married woman...and Sultan being paraya man, cannot apply color like that unless they are friends etc...I have seen men applying tika to each other, women playing holi with each other...but not man and woman who are not related to each other. I am talking about Delhi and Hyderabad cities where I lived. So I am not a Guru of Holi playing.

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