Episode 203 Discussion: 23rd Feb 2013

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Episode 203 Discussion: 23rd Feb 2013


Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? šŸ˜‰. And that proves our objective.

Objective behind the thread is
  1. It helps in keeping the forum clean without much litter. People just need to fall in a habit.
  2. We can have it like breathers at first followed by analysis.
  3. It also helps like-minded souls and pals bond and gel together to drop in their thoughts for themselves as breathers and for their friends as a peep into the episode and for others to post their reviews.
  4. And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

For those who cannot watch can have the Live/Written Updates.
Today's LU from : Armu4eva
  • There are various other threads all over the forum. Please check out those as well. This is just one choice out of so many.
  • Readers are encouraged to post links of other members posts which had been "delightful read" towards analysis of episodic event/s or character analysis. It becomes an easy navigation in the myriad of posts and pages and can easily be overlooked.
  • The link to present day ED thread is always provided in the previous one discussed.Those who participated in previous thread can go to my posts and check the previous thread to get access to new link.
  • The link to Previous Episode thread if anyone wants to trace and post thoughts there. https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3450150/episode-202-discussion-22nd-feb-2013

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Episode 203 Discussion - EOD Summary

Duplicate original se bhi sundar lag rahi hai - Madhu's beauty gets noticed

Events of the Episode
  1. Madhu gets dressed up the Duplicate in gown, covers her bare shoulders with the stole.Comes for the shot. RK starts his act, holds her waist, albeit saying he doesn't like touching her but has to for the shot. Shot goes on beautifully. Director is happy. But Kameena RK has another idea to interrupt the shooting and reminds everyone that heroine did not have stole. And he calls Madhu as Madhubala and starts removing that. Half-way, Madhu's tear falls on him. He snaps out and calls Pack-Up. Reason...Duplicate not looking like Heroine at all. And tells Director to transfer the day's expense into his account.
  2. Everyone starts to leave. Bittuji looks teary-eyed at his Bhabhiji and from behind RK calls Bittuji to come away. Sad version of Hum Hai Deewane song for Madhu. From here contrived execution of CVs for their drama starts. On the way out, Bittuji calls Radhaji, gives her the update as to what happened. Radhaji wonders what a twisted relationship her son and daughter-in-law share. She prays to Bappa.
  3. We then magically see RK in a strange room. It turns out to be the make up room. He is talking to Bittuji and we learn that his car has broken down and that his vanity van had been sent off.
  4. In the adjacent make-up room, which we viewers can see and which RK can only hear through the wall, hears Madhu sobbing. She ends her sobbing with "Hauslon se Veer hoon, Sankaton mein Dheer hoon, Dushmano se bheer hoon...all in sob-sob style.RK in the adjacent room is all listening to this and his heart is cut into 1000 pieces.
  5. Bittuji takes Bappa's name and enters Main room, switches off power. RK comes running looking for Madhu as she is afraid of dark.
  6. RK calls for Madhu. Madhu doesn't allow him to touch her. He says you are afraid of dark. She denies and says she is afraid of him whom she saw in light and hates him. Madhu tells him that he has no right to be concerned about her after what he did. RK is unable to take her no and pulls her and as Madhu gets away from him, RK's hold on her hand causes her shirt sleeve to come off.
  7. There comes the flying 5th Slap from Madhu on RK's cheek. She asks him, what can he do now for her 5th slap.
  8. How will he avenge himself now for the 5th Slap. Check it out for the answer on Monday.

Episode Reviews
Page 1 - SD, Angeena, dramacrazy12
Page 2 - Charu, amrithas, Soundarya
Page 3 - anastasia21
Page 4 - kodai, MarathiMulgi
Page 5 - apolloartemis, zoya_naziya, Ananya
Page 6 - SD
Page 7 - SD, PreetD, sadumaneet, vkk2429
Page 8 - zoya_naziya, Kt25, SD
Page 9 - bhakti2, ghsp1, Savz_Uniqueblis
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Attempt to unravel the mystery of revenge track - based on the 2 week period...study in retrospecive mode - PreetD on Page 16


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Paanchve Thappad ka badla kaise loge ?
Batao Na ?
Sunne ke liye Tune in Kijiyega Agle hafte somvaar sade aath (8:30) baje.


It was a Rishbala Shippers episode.
Radhaji and Bittuji acted the Cupids. Now I don't understand why peeps would hate them for their conspiracies !

Khair not my problem. I liked Radhaji praying to God...to give some solution. Coz I believe in Miracles. I like them
And Bittuji...Phas na jaana, Sambhal jaana, Switch zaroor ON kar dena, kaam poora ho jaane ke baad.

Nothing much to analyse. Contrived another studio night. But the hopeless like me will watch it, ogle at it anyways. šŸ˜”

Interesting dialogue:
by god first time...Duplicate original se bhi sundar lag rahi hai šŸ˜†

Sad version of the Hum Hai deewane song...They changed the female singer. So that means now mukhda will keep changing according to the situation.

Kaisi yeh pyaar ki dekho ruswaayi
Bass door talak tanhaayi
kya wafa ko sila sirf bewafaayi
pyaar mein jaan ganyaayi
Hum the Deewaane Tere Deewaane -4

Translation
Look how the love has been disgraced.
Only solitude on the horizon.
How the loyalty has been paid. Only disloyalty.
Have lost my life in love.'
I was crazy. Crazy about You -4


ETA - Events:
Madhu gets dressed up the Duplicate in gown, covers her bare shoulders with the stole.
Comes for the shot. RK starts his act, holds her waist, albeit saying he doesn't like touching her but has to for the shot. Shot goes on beautifully. Director is happy. But Kameena RK has another idea to interrupt the shooting and reminds everyone that heroine did not have stole. And he calls Madhu as Madhubala and starts removing that. Half-way, Madhu's tear falls on him. He snaps out and calls Pack-Up. Reason...Duplicate not looking like Heroine at all. And tells Director to transfer the day's expense into his account.
Everyone starts to leave. Bittuji looks teary-eyed at his Bhabhiji and from behind RK calls Bittuji to come away. Sad version of Hum Hai Deewane song for Madhu. Lyrics given above. From here contrived execution starts. On the way out, Bittuji calls Radhaji (not sure what RK was doing at this time...I thought he should have been right in front of Bittuji), gives her the update as to what happened. Rads ...says what a twisted relationship both have. 🤣 And yet she prays to Bappa. Jai Ho. Main Dhanya ho gayee. Nahin to what will happen for my ogling eyes. šŸ˜† We then magically see RK in a strange room. It turns out to be the make up room. He is talking to Bittuji and we learn that his car has broken down (yet again 🤪 ) and that his vanity van had been sent off. šŸ˜†. In the adjacent make-up room, which we viewers can see and whicg RK can only hear through the wall...hears Madhu crying...sisak sisak ke rona. She ends her crying with "Hauslon se Veer hoon, Sankaton mein Dheer hoon, Dushmano se bheer hoon...all in Sisak- Sisak style...Means our hero in the adjacent room is all listening to this and his dil ke hazaar tukde ho rahe hain, with all that chakku churiyaan in the form of Madhu's Sisak Sisak tears. 😭 šŸ˜†
Bittuji ne piya cinkaara and liya Bappa ka naam and dhaava bole. Main room mein gaye, switch off kar diya (How does he know that Madhu is afraid of Dark ? šŸ˜• ) Ab aur kya hona hai. RK kameene se Hero to ban hi gaye...Action hero bhi ban haye...as in came running looking for Madhu as she is afraid of dark. Big Deal !! 🤪 But I like it Balle Balle for the drama that ensues . Hero calls for Madhu. Heroine doesn't allow him to touch her. He says you are afraid of dark. She denies and says she is afraid of him whom she saw in light and hates him. They fight for no reason. And RK pulls her for no reasonšŸ˜•, and Sleeve comes off for no reason. Seriously how does sleeve tear off like that...the guy did not even tug at itšŸ˜• šŸ˜† Contrived Drama. Lo there comes the flying 5th Slap on RK's cheek. Yeah Madhu gives it. . But don't worry. She asks him...Kya kar loge. How will he avenge himself now for the 5th Slap 🤣 Check it out for the answer on Monday.

Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago
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Should I bother analyzing this episode on my weekend morning? Never mind. 😵
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It started with Madhu being declared as the replacement for the absent Shraddha. Why Madhu who was in tears at the very thought of standing in didn't protest is beyond me. She felt guilty of the problems caused but that should not have stopped her from, at the very least, voicing out a token of protest.

Padmini sensed that her daughter was in turmoil. But there was nothing she could do. The happenings of today's episode will make her more sure, and probably Trishna will support her in this, that Madhu should not return to the set.

At the set, the whole crew held its breath at seeing Madhu. Though she was looking quite beautiful, I personally felt she looked better in some other scenes like Karvachauth and Sangeet. The duplicate was certainly better than the original. When the director looking at the her, I felt sick. It felt as though the guy was leering.

Madhu's reactions when RK held her ... I don't know how to describe it. It hurt her, caused her pain alright, but there was so much more than that.

When RK started removing her stole.. Embarrassed, harassed, horrified, pained, hurt, humiliated and mute in shock. DD was brilliant in this shot. šŸ‘ And when a single tear fell on RK's hand... That was so touching. I could feel what Madhu must have been going through and empathize. And RK, seemed to realize finally, for once, that he was going too far. He yelled out "Pack Up", gave a couple of lame excuses and told the director to take the costs of the damages from his account. But I have no doubt that those stupid reasons must have hurt Madhu even more.

Radhaji has lost all the goodwill she had earned from me for the way she treated RK on the night
of the un-wedding. How could she or Bitooji for that matter still insist on pushing these two together? 😔 After this humiliation? 😔 Bittooji especially. He was there, he saw Madhu, he could see what she went through, and yet? I'm so disappointed in him. And can I just say, worst plan ever Bittooji. Leave that to your superstar Mr. Right Kameena. But good thing Bappa ka yaad kiya. Now only God can do something.

When RK and Madhu were in adjacent makeup rooms, the scene felt symbolic. RK reached out, seemingly pained at hearing Madhu's sobs, and placed a hand on the wall separating them and Madhu continued crying, not even able to complete her chant. Seems all her courage felt her for that moment. I personally liked this one scene more than any other in today's episode.

The lights go out and RK immediately thinks of Madhu and her fear of darkness. When he finds her at the same place where he humiliated her, he proceeds to tell her to calm down. But Madhu is correct, he no longer has the right to feel concern after what he has done. Nafrat she says. RK seems to have finally gone beyond the point of no return in Madhu's mind.

Madhu's reaction to RK accidently tearing off her sleeve was heightened by the day's insults. And that slap. All this revenge drama for 4 slaps, what is left that RK can do for one more? Madhu's suggestion that RK finish what he started was the result of her pained anger. She isn't thinking about what she is saying. Because RK, whatever else he is, won't do any such thing as she was suggesting.

I have no idea what to make of the precap. Madhu seemed to be realizing what just happened and maybe she will worry about what RK will do this time. Well, this is still midway through day 2 of the challenge. Aage aage dekenge hota hai kya.
Edited by Angeena - 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ananya05

Should I bother analyzing this episode on my weekend morning? Never mind. 😵

Not sure about that...my only thought through out was CVs, RK and Madhu are all confused and seem to suffer from bipolar personalities. They need to decide on a course of action sooner or later...Visually the episode was amazing.
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Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Paanchve Thappad ka badla kaise loge ?

Batao Na ?
Sunne ke liye Tune in Kijiyega Agle hafte somvaar sade aath (8:30) baje.


It was a Rishbala Shippers episode.
Radhaji and Bittuji acted the Cupids. Now I don't understand why peeps would hate them for their conspiracies !

Khair not my problem. I liked Radhaji praying to God...to give some solution. Coz I believe in Miracles. I like them
And Bittuji...Phas na jaana, Sambhal jaana, Switch zaroor on kar dena, kaam poora ho jaane ke bad.

Nothing much to analyse. Contrived another studio night. But the hopeless like me will watch it, ogle at it anyways.

Interesting dialogue:
by god first time...Duplicate original se bhi sundar lag rahi hai šŸ˜†

Sad version of the Hum Hai deewane song...They changed the female singer. So that means now mukhda will keep changing according to the situation.

Kaisi yeh pyaar ki dekho ruswaayi
Bass door talak tanhaayi
kya wafa kaun sila sirf bewafaayi
pyaar mein jaan ganyaayi
Hum hai Deewaane Tere Deewaane

ETA - Events:
Madhu gets dressed up the Duplicate in gown, covers her bare shoulders with the stole.
Comes for the shot. RK starts his act, holds her waist, albeit saying he doesn't like touching her but has to for the shot. Shot goes on beautifully. Director is happy. But Kameena RK has another idea to interrupt the shooting and reminds everyone that heroine did not have stole. And he calls Madhu as Madhubala and starts removing that. Half-way, Madhu's tear falls on him. He snaps out and calls Pack-Up. Reason...Duplicate not looking like Heroine at all. And tells Director to transfer the day's expense into his account.
Everyone starts to leave. Bittuji looks teary-eyed at his Bhabhiji and from behind RK calls Bittuji to come away. Sad version of Hum Hai Deewane song for Madhu. Lyrics given above. From here contrived execution starts. On the way out, Bittuji calls Radhaji (not sure what RK was doing at this time...I thought he should have been right in front of Bittuji), gives her the update as to what happened. Rads ...says what a twisted relationship both have. We then magically see RK in a strange room. It turns out to be the make up room. He is talking to Bittuji and we learn that his car has broken down (yet again 🤪 ) and that his vanity van had been sent off. šŸ˜†. In the adjacent make-up room, which we viewers can see and whicg RK can only hear through the wall...hears Madhu crying...sisak sisak ke rona. She ends her crying with "Hauslon se Veer hoon, Sankaton mein Dheer hoon, Dushmano se bheer hoon...all in Sisak- Sisak style...Means our hero in the adjacent room is all listening to this and his dil ke hazaar tukde ho rahe hain, with all that chakku churiyaan in the form of Madhu's Sisak Sisak tears. 😭 šŸ˜†
Bittuji ne piya cinkaara and liya Bappa ka naam and dhaava bole. Main room mein gaye, switch off kar diya (How does he know that Madhu is afraid of Dark ? šŸ˜• ) Ab aur kya hona hai. RK kameene se Hero to ban hi gaye...Action hero bhi ban haye...as in came running looking for Madhu as she is afraid of dark. Big Deal !! 🤪 But I like it Balle Balle Balle for the drama that ensues . Hero calls for Madhu. Heroine doesn't allow him to touch her. He says you are afraid of dark. She denies and says she is afraid of him whom she saw in light and hates him. They fight for no reason. And RK pulls her for no reasonšŸ˜•, and Sleeve comes off for no reason. Seriously how does sleeve tear off like that...the guy did not even tug at itšŸ˜• šŸ˜† Contrived Drama. Lo there comes the flying 5th Slap on RK's cheek. Yeah Madhu gives it. . But don't worry. She asks him...Kya kar loge. How will he avenge himself now for the 5th Slap 🤣 Check it out for the answer on Monday


šŸ‘ Good review Shri.

@red --> its still "hum hai deewaane". I thought it would be "hum thay deewaane"

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Originally posted by: Angeena

It started with Madhu being declared as the replacement for the absent Shraddha. Why Madhu who was in tears at the very thought of standing in didn't protest is beyond me. She felt guilty of the problems caused but that should not have stopped her from, at the very least, voicing out a token of protest.


Padmini sensed that her daughter was in turmoil. But there was nothing she could do. The happenings of today's episode will make her more sure, and probably Trishna will support her in this, that Madhu should not return to the set.

At the set, the whole crew held its breath at seeing Madhu. Though she was looking quite beautiful, I personally felt she looked better in some other scenes like Karvachauth and Sangeet. The duplicate was certainly better than the original. When the director looking at the her, I felt sick. It felt as though the guy was leering.

Madhu's reactions when RK held her ... I don't know how to describe it. It hurt her, caused her pain alright, but there was so much more than that.

RK talking about continuity was stupid. Shraddha had worn a lilac dress which came to her knees and Madhu was wearing a light blue full length gown. That was enough to destroy any continuity.

When RK started removing her stole.. Embarrassed, harassed, horrified, pained, hurt, humiliated and mute in shock. DD was brilliant in this shot. šŸ‘ And when a single tear fell on RK's hand... That was so touching. I could feel what Madhu must have been going through and empathize. And RK, seemed to realize finally, for once, that he was going too far. He yelled out "Pack Up", gave a couple of lame excuses and told the director to take the costs of the damages from his account. But I have no doubt that those stupid reasons must have hurt Madhu even more.

Radhaji has lost all the goodwill she had earned from me for the way she treated RK on the night
of the un-wedding. How could she or Bitooji for that matter still insist on pushing these two together? 😔 After this humiliation? 😔 Bittooji especially. He was there, he saw Madhu, he could see what she went through, and yet? I'm so disappointed in him. And can I just say, worst plan ever Bittooji. Leave that to your superstar Mr. Right Kameena. But good thing Bappa ka yaad kiya. Now only God can do something.

When RK and Madhu were in adjacent makeup rooms, the scene felt symbolic. RK reached out, seemingly pained at hearing Madhu's sobs, and placed a hand on the wall separating them and Madhu continued crying, not even able to complete her chant. Seems all her courage felt her for that moment.

The lights go out and RK immediately thinks of Madhu and her fear of darkness. When he finds her at the same place where he humiliated her, he proceeds to tell her to calm down. But Madhu is correct, he no longer has the right to feel concern after what he has done. Nafrat she says. RK seems to have finally gone beyond the point of no return in Madhu's mind.

Madhu's reaction to RK accidently tearing off her sleeve was heightened by the day's insults. And that slap. All this revenge drama for 4 slaps, what is left that RK can do for one more? Madhu's suggestion that RK finish what he started was the result of her pained anger. She isn't thinking about what she is saying. Because RK, whatever else he is, won't do any such thing as she was suggesting.

I have no idea what to make of the precap. Madhu seemed to be realizing what just happened and maybe she will worry about what RK will do this time. Well, this is still midway through day 2 of the challenge. Aage aage dekenge hota hai kya.

Very nice analysis Angeena
@ bold 1: Agree with u completely. I dont know why these two are still trying to bring them together.
I can understand Radhaji but what about Bittuji who cosider himself as Mb's brother, stilll trying to bring his little sister and his mysterious monster chief together
@ bold 2: Agree here too. I too feel the same way.
Now me too think Rk is suffering frm some bipolar disease
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šŸ‘ Good review Shri.

@red --> its still "hum hai deewaane". I thought it would be "hum thay deewaane"


I couldn't resist myself.šŸ˜† šŸ˜† Seems I got into fun mode...watching Rads and Bits. So added my commentary on the events of the episode.
Its added as ETA to my 1st post on page 1. Read that.
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as i said in the media articles thread, there was no mystery reg. 2 weeks time , it was just that ST asked us to hang on bec. we'll like it and accept the twist...so that way he did a wonderful job šŸ‘ almost all of us are happy with the ongoing proceedings..from my side, no complaints...i understood that they've kept RK's dialogues, expressions and his actions AMBIGUOUS bec. they don't want us to hate him...that was the only mystery...they cannot paint him dark completely coz there's a huge risk of losing audience... in ST's interview, in which he said that they had a task at hand bec. they wanted the audience to accept RK , that's why the marriage track came up, that pretty much shows that they will not take a risk even now...toh i'm happy ..either they will make him go through that redemption phase or do anything but get him back on track...

now for the epi, it was moving totally in SLOW MOTION for 15 mins 🄱 first, why was Madhu crying with the thought of giving a shot with RK? "dekh lenge , dekhte reh jaoge"? on what basis did she challenge him ? from her actions in the past and present, all i can infer is that she's stubborn enuf to take a stand, unable to decide which fight is worth fighting , do this big talk & give lectures , when it comes to facing the actual challenge , it goes out of her control and the end result, a slap ! and the cycle continues ! 🄱 play with fire and then cry that you got burnt !

the assistants were good though.."pehli baar duplicate heroine se better lag rahi hai" 🤣 BTW which continuity was he talking about? wasn't he wearing something else in the song yest? n why so many bloopers? yest. it was early morning when Madhu entered the set? in 5 mins, the heroine left? so Madhu took this whole day to get ready and come for the shot? it was night when she was leaving from there ?

two, why does she think he insulted/humiliated her? with all due respect to the saaree & suit clad girls (i'm also one of them but i also love to wear dresses n prefer westerns most of the time), those who prefer westerns , dresses & gowns are in no way indecent ! she was asked to wear a gown , not bikini..i know i'm being harsh but i couldn't understand whats the fuss about ke she was crying that way in the make up room and why did she say in the end that RK ne be-izzati ki...bec. he touched her? can we call it a touch? sabke saamne means what? all the bollywood heroines are characterless? bec. some other guy is touching them? her husband (when he was her husband) ,is then as characterless as all these heroines... if she thinks so , why is she still there? why didn't she protest & walked away? the challenge was more imp. to her ?


RK as expected didn't remove her stole & did pack up !

Radha having a fangurl moment? 🤣 i thought so...the way she was talking about RK, a few lines were copied from this forum or what?? "RK didn't remove the stole na? see, he was decent enuf , we should give the credit where it's due" 🤣 Radha was reacting on the same lines...itni jaldi she gave up & threw all her problems on Bappa..Bappa toh theek kar hi denge, what did SHE do? 🤢 Thank you Love Guru for explaining us their relationship status ! šŸ‘ he hurts her then stops her from hurting, she lets him hurt her , then forget about it 😲 what BS !!! this is what Radha is expecting from Madhu? or rather understood her? if Madhu was her daughter, and RK, her SIL then?? will she try uniting them?

Bittuji planning to make them talk 🄱 UFF ! is this supposed to be the turning point? exactly WHY was RK worried for Madhu when he heard her crying "hauslon se veer" in slow motion? and promptly ran to her rescue when the lights went off? a re-run of studio night??

Madhu has all rights to be angry on him n he was not buzzing off.why is he showing so much concern? after all that he did with her , right frm the wedding night??...the slap was perfectly placed...

his reaction was natural ! "how dare you" 😔 haan ! how dare she ! tell her and tell us what he will do now? sabke saamne be-izzati nahi ki toh akele mein karoge? 🤣it's sad & unfortunate that RK got slapped for THIS 🤣 something which he cud have easily done , n which he didn't do when they were married, why will he want to do it now???

precap is confusing..did they talk or not?? sorry..did they fight or not?? sorry..did Madhu blast him off or not? šŸ˜† RK putting the lioness back in cage..bandh karo Madhu dimag ka dahi karna , bahut ho gaya šŸ˜† was his expression when he locked her up ! or rather, helped her get out of the studio and stay aloof? šŸ˜•



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