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I would like to take this opportunity to wish Gurmeet Choudhary, our wonderful Yashji, a


🥳HAPPY BIRTHDAY! 🥳


He has brought so many shades to the beautiful character of Yash and we fall in love with the character a little more with every new shade!



I wish this humble, hard working, gorgeous, and super-duper talented man the most wonderful celebration and an even more successful year to come!

May all his noble dreams come true!

🤗

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So, so, so BEAUTIFUL! 👏

Even though the Aarti-Yash scenes were a class apart on their own, what I loved most about the episode conceptually, were Gayatri and Vidhi's reactions. SP and Pankaj's argument was that human beings make mistakes, but what about women who do not come into marriage with the idea that their husbands are human beings? What about women who are taught that their husbands are gods and can do nothing wrong? How can you demand to be treated like a god and then expect pardon for your mistakes because you are human? Wonderful treatment of this hypocrisy, and I love how Vidhi found her voice when the path that she is following so unquestioningly was shown to be more treacherous than she had ever imagined. Perhaps this will help her understand Aarti's situation with Prashant better: that it was the man's fault and nothing to do with Aarti. She cold shouldered Aarti for being a "divorcee," because she didn't understand how Aarti could be one of no fault of her own. Now she is seeing Gayatri, the perfect wife and matriarch face the same situation and might perhaps realise that no matter how faithfully you follow karyeshu daasi.. etc., your husband is still just a human being and he can still make mistakes that shake up your entire existence. That is what Vidhi failed to understand about Aarti and Prashant and that is what she will hopefully come to understand.

To be honest, I don't think Aarti actually believes everything she said. This is one instance where I am not going to chock her painting an ideal picture to her unfailing optimism. She knows how bad the situation is and can be, but to my mind, she was saying what Yash needed to hear at that moment. It reminded me of the way she used to comfort Ansh when they first came to Scindia house, assuring him that everyone loved him, even when she knew it wasn't true. Even though her words may be wishful thinking, it is words like this that pick people up when they are at their lowest and give them the strength to face unpleasant situations without getting bogged down. Her words were comforting on one level, as they washed over a numb and distraught Yash, but they were also aspirational on another, because Yash is a strong man and once he gets over the initial shock, these are the words that are going to stick with him, because they so closely echo his own beliefs. Even if things aren't perfect the way Aarti described right away, this image is going to be in the back of Yash's mind and this is what he will aspire to and work for, as he has always done: a home where blood relations and relations of the heart are treated with no difference.

Aarti was doing nothing more than voicing Yash's own beliefs --- his strongest ones that have just been drowned out at the moment by the shock. Essentially, she is giving him a life raft when he feels like he is drowning. He feels like he is losing everything and she is reminding him that through all this, he still has his principles, the same ones he has had all his life and that they never have to change. And according to these very principles, none of his relationships have to change either. She is giving him back his identity just as he feels it is slipping away. The question of "WHO AM I?" tortures Yash and with this speech, she is giving him the answer: these are your beliefs and this is your family.

It all comes down to the fact that more than anything, Yash and Aarti are a unit now. Aarti does not reprimand him for his immoral decision to hide the truth, she merely does what he would have done had he not been so embroiled himself in this situation. She acts on behalf of his conscience, which has been silenced by fear and pain, and she does what is right... for herself, for him and mostly for the kids. Yash is not the kind of person who would be able to look his kids in the eye and teach them about truth if he himself were wound up in such a huge lie. As a continuation from yesterday's episode, she helps him remain the excellent father that he is by keeping his belief in himself intact, and for that, more than anything else. I loved today's episode!

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Happy Birthday Gurmeet 🥳...

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Episode Take


An emotional Roller Coaster Episode 👏👏👏👏... Episode which really made me emotional after a long time all thanks to some terrific display of acting by Gayatri , Gurmeet and Kratika 👏👏👏👏



Aarti's sudden support for Akash did put me off but I understand from where she is coming from 😊


In the start of the episode I did feel a bit disatisfied with the way Aarti suddenly showed support for Akash by taking him to everyone from Gayatri to SP and joining hands to accept their son whereas she simply leaves Yash all alone after telling him this big truth ... I understand that Aarti felt bad with all the humiliation happening and I was ok till Aarti goes and removes that jooto ki mala from Akash's neck but after that I was expecting Aarti to b with Yash rather than asking all to support Akash there 🤔 ...

Having said that , I feel in this situation we need to see it from Aarti's POV as well ... She has learnt it from Shobha to always support the truth even if it means standing on opposite side of the fence and today she actually followed Shobha's footsteps 🤔 .. She cant let Scindia family commit this big sin of taking Akash around the city on a donkey .. She did ask Yash to stop it but Yash suddenly changed side in frustration saying let them do what they want if his brothers feel that their father is humiliated .. So well Aarti had no option but to tell the truth and stop the family from comitting this big sin something which Shobha too hv done and Aarti has taken this nature from Shobha ...




Yash's emotional moment when he feels all lost after drinking the poison of his real identity 😭 But Aarti remains his true Parvati ,trying to reduce the bitterness of that poison with her emotional support 👏👏



No words for AarYa moment today ... Simply speechless 👏👏👏 .. too emotional 😭😭 ... Yash is like a small baby 😭 .. He pours water on Aarti in anger after hearing the biggest truth of his life but then ends up crying his heart out in her arms only 😭 ... Felt like hugging him 🤗 ... he just dunno how to react 😭 .. I loved the realistic touch in emotions here 👏👏 .. Instead of accusing SP that moment itself like a filmy hero , I see realistic reaction where Yash just goes inside a cocoon all alone locking himself in corner of a room , not ready to face anyone but simply cry his heart out while the bitter truth is yet to sink in 😭😭😭 ...Yash is thinking will all relationships change now ?? .. Wont I b the laadla beta of Gayatri maa anymore ?? 😭 .. Will my brothers start hating me now ?? 😭 ... Yash was silent but those tears in his eyes said it all 😭 .. he was not in a position to humiliate or accuse anyone because he feels do I even hv the rights or any identity to question or accuse anyone ?? ...


Yash just had a silent emotional breakdown and was just thinking what should I do... where should I go .. I cannot loose my family of 30 yrs 😭😭 ... Only Aarti could read these questions in his moist eyes and so instantly she sits besides him, rests his head on her shoulders and assures her that nothing will change , he will still remain Gayatri maa's raja beta and the dearest brother of Pankaj-Pratik ,only new relationships r going to add up in this family but his position in house will remain as it is And I love Aarti for perfectly understanding the fear in Yash's silence and voicing it out with her words of assurance which was much needed for Yash to come back in his senses 👏👏👏 ... Yash still had no words because he has lost the confidence at present after loosing his identity of 30 long years 😭😭 .. Yash just silently listens to Aarti like a baby and rests his head on her shoulders yet again to find some peace 😭😭... My heart goes out to Yash Scindia today 🤗 and thank you Aarti for giving the much needed comfort to Yash when he needs it the most ... GC-KS take a bow ... u both were phenomenal in the whole scene 👏👏👏👏 ...




I m glad that the reactions after the truth were kept realistic without putting in any OTT filmy drama 👍🏼

I was expecting violent reactions from all after Aarti tells the truth regarding the baby swap and how Akash is the legitimate son while Yash is illegitimate one .. Mayb I m too used to ekta soaps 😆 and so I was expecting Gayatri to slap SP or Yash to shout kutte kaminey to SP after the truth comes out 😆😆 .. Then those typical drama in front of public which often happens in such situations and so initially when I saw individual subtle reaction of characters privately in their respective rooms I was like yeh kya response hai 😕😆 .. It did pleasantly shock me and for once I m happy I got real reaction from the characters which touched my heart 👍🏼 ..


I could see the inner pain and frustration inside Gayatri when those tears were coming out of her eyes while she stood there like a stone with her back against SP 👍🏼 ..Her voice was always suppressed by her husband because she has been taught to worship her husband like god who can never make mistakes ..I saw sarcasm and frustration there in Gayatri's words .. She dint lecture or preach SP like a filmy wife or like Shobha maa about right and wrong but her words taunting SP as God was enough for SP to put his head down in shame because SP's inner conscience knows what he did was not really a mistake but a crime 😊 *Claps for Gayatri here for showing the mirror to SP by taunting him with God tag* 👏👏👏 ...


Even the reaction of brothers were so damn real when Pankaj said yes SP made a mistake , but should we put him in jail and end this family forever ?? ..Its not possible ..So best is to forgive ,forget and accept the bitter truth and move on which is quite a real reaction and also here more than SP , their main worry was Yash 😭... Both Pankaj and Pratik cannot loose their Yash and so confronting SP will mean loosing their brother Yash too in the process because they both realised that place now belongs to Akash .. Vidhi comes from different family and so as woman her strong protest against Men and SP was valid too 👍🏼..


The individual reactions were perfect 👏👏 .. Its all human to first think about your 30 year old relationships and emotional attachments before walking the path of justice and deciding what is wrong and what is right or what is true and what is false 😊.. I loved subtle protests and POVs privately in their room without any filmy public tamasha 👍🏼...


Last but not the least , Thank god not another Aarti humiliation ... I understand why everyone there trusted Aarti ... Its SP's silence which made all trust Aarti because if Aarti was wrong , then SP would not hv kept quiet but Aarti's revelation about baby swapping stunned SP too and he could not really oppose it since he himself was unaware of this 🤔



Should SP be forgiven or not ??



I think now the question is whether SP should b forgiven or not ?? 🤔

At present I dont think any character is thinking about the future consequences once Radha-Akash steps into the house ... All r emotionally drained out and this bitter truth is going to take some time to sink in for all 😭😭 ...

Yash at present is confused about his own idenity and also scared of loosing the love of his Gayatri maa and his brothers ... His mind is so engaged in all these emotions that he has no time to think about SP's betrayal to his biological mom Radha ..

Aarti at present is busy consoling Yash ... She wants all to stay together like a big happy family without really thinking that its not possible for Radha and Gayatri to stay under same roof ... Can Arpita-Aarti or Yash-Prashant stay under same roof ?? Nope 😆... So its awkward for Radha and Gayatri too ... But Aarti's mind is so enaged in handling Yash's emotions and giving justice to Akash that she totally forgot the relationship dynamics of Radha-Gayatri here 🤔

Pankaj-Pratik and Vidhi at present do accept SP's mistake but they r not ready to loose Yash at any cost and so they r trying hard to actually ignore the whole 30 yrs back story by not really confronting SP over it .. The more they confront and accuse SP , the more Yash will feel guilty and disgusted of his new identity which the brothers want to avoid 🤔

Gayatri at present is disgusted with what SP did years back .. But what can she do ?? She rightly said that she is unfortunately a woman who cannot really leave her family or revolt against her husband ... She will hv to silently drink this poison and go back to worshipping her husband like God and assume God cannot make any mistake


So at present every character has got some or the other shock and forgiving SP or not is not really in their priority list at present because the main worry is loosing Yash 😊... If they all decide not to forgive SP for the sin he comitted years back , then it will end up making Yash feel all the more guilty since he is a result of that sin comitted by SP ... If Yash decides not to forgive SP , then it will end up making Gayatri feel that she lost her son to Radha and will forever go in depression because her motherly emotions r still with Yash ...


Whats interesting here is , we r yet to get a reaction from Akash-Ishita and Radha post the truth revelation 🤔... Akash's life is turned upside down too along with Yash and will he accuse his mother Radha for this who did the swapping ?? Interesting 😛


Moral of the story is its easier said than done when we say SP should b punished ... Question is what punishment should b given to SP .. One punishment could b asking him to marry Radha .. but then what about Gayatri ?? ... Another punishment could b Boycott SP from family but that will actually make Yash feel more miserable since I said this earlier too he will feel that he is a result of the whole sin which resulted in Gayatri loosing her husband forever and Yash is still emotionally attached to Gayatri ... Another punishment could b asking him to say sorry to Radha from his heart and accept that yes he was at fault and he was being unfair to both ladies Gayatri as well as Radha which I feel is going to come eventually from SP only and I feel AarYa together will make SP do this so that both mothers can get justice 😊



Overall a wonderful episode with lots of unexpected display of subtle emotions which reminded me of the old PV once again 😳



Edited by jyoti06 - 13 years ago
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THE CRUELEST LIES
ARE OFTEN TOLD IN SILENCE

Suraj Pratap Scindia knows the honest truth that he fathered, Radha's son but he thinks it is Aakash so he doesn't care how the latter gets treated.


Instead of manning up to what he did, he gloats and enjoys the festivities with his family while his own flesh & blood is being humiliated.




Aakash who has been weaving big dreams ever since his mother told him that he is SP's son finds himself being the laughing stock of his own family.


He reprimands his mother for giving him false hope, she did lied to him but not about what he thinks.


Yash knows his father's bitter truth but can't share it with anyone but he sure gave SP a hint that he knows what he did and is really disappointed in him for not feeling any regret.



MEN ARE CRUEL, BUT MAN IS KIND

The Scindias are enjoying Aakash's humiliation, Pratik & Pankaj wanted Yash to join them on their quest to make Aakash pay but Yash refuses to take part is such nonsense cause he can't do that to his brother.

They are having fun but what will they do when they get to know that Yash is Radha's son...Will they do the same to him as they are doing to Aakash???



A PROMISE IS A CLOUD,
FULFILLMENT IS RAIN

Aarti knows the whole truth about Aakash and Yash's origin...She pleads with Radha to let her tell the truth so Aakash won't go through such humiliation but Radha refuses. She makes Aarti promise to never reveal the truth, but the latter can't sit idly on the sideline without doing anything when face with such injustice.

Aakash's wife, Ishita upon seeing her MIL & Aarti together realizes that something was amiss, she confronted Aarti and their face to face made Aarti more determined to tell the truth.


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A very emotional and life changing episode 😭 😭 👏 👏


It starts with Pankaj and Pratik heading towards the gate with the band and Aakash, the Scindias are having a blast while Radha and Ishita are very sad...Poor Aakash like he said he would take every insult to save his mother, he just lets them do what they want with him

Yash is standing aside when Aarti walks up to him and asks him how could he let this happened, she asks him to stop this drama..Yash tells her that it isn't drama if the family is happy, she goes on to tell him that he know that Aakash doesn't deserve the treatment he is getting ...Yash is a bit annoyed and tells Aarti that they've decided never to speak of the truth, Aarti tells him that he only knows half the truth...Yash raises his voice and wants to know what is the whole truth...Yash knows that what his brothers are doing is wrong but he won't stop it cause, he can't be the one to his family so he prefers to stay quiet and to stand in the back...God that has to be killing him to be so unfair to his brother but it is human for him to wanna save his family 😔

Yash tells Aarti that they would have to forget that Aakash is the illegitimate son of their house but Aarti not able to keep it anymore says that Aakash is the legitimate son of the Scindias' house whereas he is the illegitimate son given that Radha & SP are his parents leaving Yash shocked...She goes on to say that whatever he thought of Aakash until now is actually his identity and that his is Aakash's, Yash screams at Aarti and asks her waht is she saying...Wow Aarti didn't beat around the bushes, the shocked and anger in Yash's eyes was well portrayed by GC 👏 👏

Aarti proceeds to say that she know that it might be difficult for Yash to believe what she is saying but it is the truth, the latter tells the former that she is under the influence of bhang, takes a cup of water and throws it in her face and asks her if she is in her senses now by hold her shoulders and shaking her a little...OMG Jyo take a bow my friend your were 200% right, I tell you I will always believe your predictions over any articles or spoilers cause you are very reliable 😉 👍🏼 😳...I love that Aarti despite knowing that the truth will devastated her Yashji went along and told him because she couldn't bear to see Aakash being humiliated and since Radha wasn't going to say anything she did even if it meant she could lose everything...that what it called being selfless 👏 ❤️ ❤️

Aarti swears upon her children's lives that she he telling the truth that he is Radha's and SP's son, everyone stop in their tracks when their hear Aarti's revelation...Aarti says that Radha is the one who told it to her, she goes on to tell them about the babies swapping...everyone is shocked. SP, G3 and Aakash look towards Radha who is closes her eyes when Aarti said she was the one who told it to her...Oh my! Aarti really didn't hold anything back, she told them everything...the look SP gave Radha, he knew it was true cause if it wasn't he would have make a big fuse...he knows that Radha was really pissed off at him for not wanting their child so she could easy have done what Aarti is saying...Oh SP your past came to bit you in the derriere

She tells Yash that she is in her full senses and that she can stay numb after hearing that, she goes on to say that sh can't let this injustice happen that Aakash is denied his rightful place in the society...she walks up to Aakash taks off the shoe-garland and rope...She folds her hands and apologizes to him on behalf of the Scindia family, boa is happy neither...It really take guts to go against one's husband, I love how strong AarYa's relationship is they have come a very long way even him screaming at her didn't scare her nor make her backdown...she trusts her husband's love and understand and did what she had to do to right a wrong 👏 👏 👏

Aarti tells Aakash that what happened to him was wrong, she takes Aakash and brings him in front of G3, she tells her that Aakash is her son that she gave birth to him...G3 doesn't know waht to do, she tells Aarti she has gone mad. The latter asks her to accept Aakash, gives him a hug and call him son...Gaytri is still confused as what to do, Aarti takes Aakash to SP and asks him to give Aakash his rightful place in the family and pleads with him to accept Aakash as well...Pankaj reprimands Aarti and asks her what is she saying, she goes to him and tells him that she is speaking the truth and that whatever be the reason and background of him having 30yrs of a different environment, they should accept him back. she even asks Pratik to accept Aakash as well, she says that she can't see injustice and that she won't change her mind until SP agrees to him...Gaytri and Yash are overwhelmed with emotions...Awww my poor Yash & G3 are shattered 😭 😭 😭...It's gonna take them sometime to accept Aakash, it is very noble of Aarti to want to get him his rights but she can't force this issue or else a lot of people are gonna get hurt including herself But I know she will know when to back off so (yes that's me been biased) 😛 😆

Vidhi, Pankaj and Pratik are in the former's room, she says that she never thought SP capable of doing such thing and that she wonders what Gayatri must be gong through with her faith in SP being shattered...Pankaj shouts at Vidhi to stop and says that whoever SP is, he is a man who made a mistake, he says that SP did this to save the family and not t betray them to which Vidhi says that he is talking lie that because he is thinking like a man...She tells him if he could put himself in the woman't's shoes whose life has been shattered then he would understand the dilemma...Wow Vidhi was really pissed off at SP's affair and rightfully so 👏...If only Pankaj could see how his father was when he was burning those authentic DNA report, he would see that what he did was to save himself ...we wanted the new generation reaction and oh boy we sure got what we didn't during the divorce lie and they didn't disappoint.

SP and G3 are in the living room, G3 is standing while SP is sitting in his chair...G3 is an emotional wreck, SP says that it was his first and last mistake...G3 replies that she knows the truth and that he doesn't have to clarify himself and that she will always support him, she goes on to tell him that they have always taught them as kids that a wife has to treat her husband as God and remember that he can do no wrong...From G3's words, she had an idea that SP was unfaithful but just played like she didn't know, I'm sorry but I don't think I could have lived in that time where a woman has to turn an blind eyed to her husband's infidelity

Yash is sitting in AarYa's room all shattered, Aarti calls out to him asking him where he is she comes in and sees Yash sitting on floor...she walks over to him and sits besides him, places her hand on his shoulder to which Yash takes her hand and says that he wished all this was a lie...Yash places his head on Aarti's shoulder, she pats him on the cheek to comfort him and says that she too wishes that it wasn't true. She says that the truth won't change anything as relations don't change overnight, she tells him the SP & G3 love him and that he will always be their son...Awww that was so emotional, Aarti is right Yash will always be their son, he is their baby...the one that keep the family glued...Yash accepting the truth and Aarti comforting him...those two made me cry, they are each other pillars 😭 😭 😭

Vidhi says that Pankaj may ignore his father's mistake but how can he ignore G3's pain, Pankaj wants to know if he should turn away from SP...he goes on to say that it is hard for him to understand & accept this situation where Yash stands today that is Aakash's rightful place and that the love and relation they share with Yash is actually Aakash's...Vidhi, Pratik and Pankaj say that Yash was, is and always will be their brother and that nothing will change that he is the son of the Scindia's family...Awww they will always love Yash cause heart relations can't just be broken like that no matter what 😃 ❤️...I really missed Pari today, I would like to hear what she had to say about this whole situation 🤔

Aarti tells Yash that nothing won't change and that everything will be the same, she goes on to tell him that a new relation will take place...a new member will come, she tells him that is what family is all about and even though it will be tough but she knows that everything will be alright...She hugs Yash again and the latter is shattered...Aww my poor babies, Yash is so down Aarti is gonna be there for him but he will want the reassurance from his family as well 😭 😭 😭



Hats off to Kratika Sengar and Gurmeet Choudhary...they were outstanding in their scenes
from the Aarti confronted Yash about doing nothing to stop Aakash's humiliation to Yash being all shattered and Aarti comforting him 👏 👏 👏

Take a bow GC & KS, you guys blew me away with your acting once again...your portrayal of Yash and Aarti's emotions was spot on ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️




EDIT: Aww I know that Aarti thinks that everything is gonna be fine but I got a feeling that Ishita is gonna try and cause trouble for everyone there cause she didn't get her revenge 🤔

Hmmm what will happen to Radha now???



Have a goodnight Lovelies...Will catch you in the AM, have a great weekend 🤗




G U R M E E T
Edited by Zetter - 13 years ago
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY
to our very own
GURMEET "Yash ji" CHOUDHARY




Wishing you all the best, success and happiness in life!!!
May GOD continue to shower you with more blessings and glory...
Thank You for coming to our life, our superman...


once again,




SMILE
😊😊😊😊

~MJ~

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OMGG This is soo cutee



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WISHING GURMEET A VERY HAPPY BITHDAY AND A BIG THANKS FOR PLAYING "yash"
HEY THATS really spl day me on frist page of Dc yayaaa😃😃😃😃
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY GURMEET 😃

GOD BLESS YOU WITH ALL THE HAPPINESS IN YOUR LIFE 😃 😃
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Hello All !!

Happy Birthday to our Gurmeet aka Yashji !! 😃

Excited to watch Yash reaction on the truth !!
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@Zetter : Wonderful picture take 👏👏... SP's lies r going to cost Scindia family ... now I m sure SP will say another web of lies to prove Aarti and Radha's baby swapping story false .. sighhh ... cant really blame Yash either if he does not trust Aarti today .. after all 30 yrs of his identity will b questioned suddenly .. not easy for him

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