My dear Archana,
See, you have brought me back here again, but then how could I stay away when one of my favourite girls is making a comeback of sorts? I say 'of sorts' because I do not think you are going to make this a habit, any more than I am.
I would applaud your post except that I cannot see what difference it makes one way or the other. You are talking as though getting Arjun and Purvi together would bring God back to her Heaven and make all right with the (PR) world. Well, it won't, not for me.
The Purvi who is there now does not deserve that anything good should happen to her. Just a slap will not do. She uses the men who have the bad fortune to fall in love with her, and she uses them shamelessly.She has put paid to Arjun and now she is doing the same to Onir.
Why should she get away scot free? Folks rage against the idea of a settled Arjun-Ovi marriage on the grounds that Ovi's wrongdoing should not be allowed to triumph. What then about Purvi? When the argument that she did it for her mother is trotted out
ad nauseaum, I wonder if the proponents would also condone it if she had killed someone for Archana. They would, I dare say. And she
has killed someone. Arjun.
And she is going to damage another man seriously. Onir. I do not know what you mean by "I hope he doesn't fall too deeply in love with her". The poor idiot is already obsessed with her, she has turned him into a compliant poodle, straining every nerve to keep his
Mishti's guilty secret from coming out. To accept a woman with another man's baby is one thing. To act the way Onir does is quite another. He is fast becoming a shoo in candidate for sainthood.
But the kind of man they are showing him to be nixes one of your principal arguments.
I do not think it would make any difference to Onir's love or caring for Purvi and Arjun's child who the father is. He seems to be satvik, and above all this. And as for your other argument of what if he and Purvi had a child of their own and if he would then feel the same towards both of them.
If you accept this, you automatically rule out all adoptions, don't you see that? The adopting childless couple often end up having a kid of their own. Should one therefore ban all adoptions because they might then love the adopted child less?
Now for Ovi. I had written very harshly about her in my last days in the forum, but
if Purvi can become what she has become, why can Ovi not suddenly start loving her unborn (and later born) baby to bits? There is nothing to prevent that happening. So why are you extrapolating from her past behaviour into the future?
Did we, in those long gone and happy days when we were rejoicing over Arjun and Purvi having finally found each other, ever dream that their romance was going to be deliberately butchered by Purvi for her own (and selfish) ends? I do NOT accept all this
mahaanta thesis, and for me, Purvi has by now plumbed the depths. If she can descend so suddenly, why can the CVs not make Ovi ascend?
I take you are
not subscribing to the ugly and facile assumption being trotted out by many these days that her baby is not Arjun's. Why then should Ovi be deprived of her baby, and why should Purvi the Mahaan raise it?
Archana, it is simply not worth it to discuss PR, or its characters, as if they were the products of a rational and logical thought process. They are not, and these days, all they do for me ( I am still watching PR even if I have long since stopped commenting on the train wreck it has become) is to raise my blood pressure. Well, I have chronically low blood pressure, so I can take it, but it is acutely irritating, and I can tolerate no one in it these days. Except perhaps Onir. He is the sole bright spot; not that he is going to last long. He will go to the chopping block soon, and will be shown making a
mahaanatam (that is the superlative in Sanskrit)
tyaag that will trump even Archana's track record in this respect, not to speak of Archana Jr.'s (Purvi's).
My dear, what distressed me the most, in my last days in the forum, even more than the mess that PR was in, was the change in the attitudes of the Arjun-Purvi fans (of whom I am emphatically no longer one). Many of them seem to have turned into a lynch mob, who talk of wanting Ovi and her baby to die and Onir to be dumped in a 'dungeon'. These kinds of rants that I saw whenever I dropped in made me happy that I was no longer active in the forum.
Onir was accused of 'lying' because
(a) he did not tell Arjun that Purvi's baby was his (no one bothered to remember that he was just fulfilling Purvi's explicit request, and even otherwise, it would have been, ethically and morally, completely wrong for him to have done so) and
(b) that he did not tell Purvi he loved her (even more ridiculous).
Even members I thought were logical were succumbing to this sort of indefensible stuff. If this is what Arjun-Purvi can do to those whom I thought were fairminded and rational people, then God help us.
I think the two of them should be shipped off to a distant place from where they cannot possibly return, while Rithwik and Asha get a new and better show. NOT another Balaji production, hopefully, though the way both of them were fawning all over Ekta Kapoor at a recent awards function, they both seem to be angling for one!
The fact, my dearest Archana, is that it is only us fools who get so worked up about Arjun and Purvi. The actors do not give a damn one way or the other, provided they get to work, no matter in which lousy production. That is the truth. So don't waste your time commenting on this horror show. You would be using it much better playing with little Nikhil.
Look who is talking! I have just now spent ( I am not saying 'wasted', since it is for you!) over an hour of a precious, non-renewable resource, in discussing this junk show. My time and my life. But then that, sweetheart, is solely your fault!😉
Affectionately,
Shyamala
Originally posted by: archverma10
I have not been active in the forum for a long, long time, and don't really bother to watch the show anymore. The Arjun Ovi marriage killed my enthusiasm for PR, Arjun turned into a laughing stock, Purvi into a sacrificial saint, and the current pregnancy track is so bizarre my head is spinning (Every time I try to make sense of it I end up with a migraine- seriously.)
In reading some of the posts, I must say I do have a bit of a moral dilemma here. Now I will say this: Arjun and Purvi are both a pair of fools for throwing away their happiness and future. They brought their suffering upon themselves and are themselves responsible for this mess. I would have to agree that life is about choices. Purvi is just as guilty as Ovi for taking the Devil's Deal, and the fact that she was able to do that after sleeping with him---from the emotional perspective---well, words fail me. And Arjun for agreeing to this'even with total reluctance---well, if only he had more of a backbone. Still feel bad for him though'can't help it. When all is said and done, it is simple'.he had the bad luck to fall head over heels in love with a girl who simply didn't love him as much. That being said, let's talk about the current track vs. ARVI reunion.
From a purely logical standpoint, it must be noted that Purvi and Arjun made love when they were in love, engaged, and about to be married in a day. Before Ovi's bargain offer. Not married or engaged to anyone else. While that doesn't make it right, they certainly didn't cheat on anyone, as some people seem to be saying. Certainly makes Purvi much more "open-minded" than we thought she was---but hey, when the CV's can resurrect people who are supposed to be dead and gone for 18 years---why should turning a character completely upside down be any different.
So current track vs. Arvi reunion----which brings me to my point and only concern at this point. The baby. The child is innocent in all this'the circumstances of its conception, parent's history, etc is all irrelevant. Its not the baby's fault what happened before it was born. Now while Onir does seem to be a nice guy, and I really cant find any fault with him, in fact to be honest he is kind of growing on me---making him the father of the child and thinking that will be a happy ending is not so simple. Sure, he may genuinely have every good intention of being a full father to the baby. However, 2 things. 1) He knows it is Arjun's baby- a fact which Arjun does not know. And Arjun is part of the family- every time he (Onir) looks at the baby and Arjun'he will be reminded of what Arjun and his wife did. This could lead to problems later on. 2) No matter how good the person is, or how good his intentions are, suppose he and Purvi have their own child later on? How will this child be the same in his eyes as his own? His wife's baby from another relationship versus their own?
Ovi cannot raise Purvi's baby. I have said it before and I will say it again. That girl does not deserve a child. She is immature, selfish, and the fact that she could consume alcohol and knowingly jeopardize her own baby's life is simply unforgivable. I am a mother myself, of a very naughty and mischievous 2 year old. Children are volatile- we love them but they also try our patience. I am also 7 years into a marriage. Every marriage will have its ups and downs. The idea that Ovi is now changed is a bunch of BS. She is being good now because Arjun is being good to her. What happens when they face a tough time in their marriage- as every married couple goes through? Is she going to kiss the child when she and Arjun are happy and beat it up when they are fighting? So her behavior towards the child depends on her husband's treatment of her? Lets face it'all our husbands are not lovey dovey and soft all the time. Mine certainly isn't. We have our good moments and bad moments like any other married couple. As far as blaming Arjun for Ovi's actions towards the baby--What nonsense. She cannot even be good to her own child- putting Purvi and Arjun's child in her hands is pretty much condemning the poor thing to a lifetime of punishment. An orphanage or jail would be better.
Logically, the only people that can raise both children happily and equally are Arjun and Purvi. Together. I understand there are 2 marriages involved---but there are also 2 children involved. And the children trump everything else. How many people stay in bad marriages for the sake of the children? The answer is many. If an ARVI reunion is what is needed for the sake of the children so be it. Yes, Ovi and Onir will be the losers in this. But then again, Ovi brings it on herself for her selfishness and abrasiveness, and Onir knew Purvi was pregnant by someone else when he married her. He also married her at his own risk. To be honest I do feel sorry for him though. For his sake, I hope he doesn't fall too deeply in love with her. As her track record indicates, she seems to have a great penchant for destroying the poor unfortunate men who have the bad luck fall in love with her. God only help Onir if he does. Maybe an ARVI reunion may be a blessing for him after all. To me, Purvi plays with people's emotions and lives without so much as a by your leave, as if she is GOD, and I would give anything to give her one great slap upside the head. She richly deserves it.
Edited by sashashyam - 12 years ago
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