Episode 132 Discussion: 26th Nov 2012

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Episode 132 Discussion: 26th Nov 2012

Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

Objective behind the thread is

It helps in keeping the forum clean without much litter. People just need to fall in a habit.
We can have it like breathers at first followed by analysis.
It also helps like-minded souls and pals bond and gel together to drop in their thoughts for themselves as breathers and for their friends as a peep into the episode and for others to post their reviews.
And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

For those who cannot watch can have the Live/Written Updates.

Today's LU from : Armu4eva

https://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3310486

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There are various other threads all over the forum. Please check out those as well. This is just one choice out of so many.
Readers are encouraged to post links of other members posts which had been "delightful read" towards analysis of episodic event/s or character analysis. It becomes an easy navigation in the myriad of posts and pages and can easily be overlooked.
The link to present day ED thread is always provided in the previous one discussed.Those who participated in previous thread can go to my posts and check the previous thread to get access to new link.
The link to Previous Episode thread if anyone wants to trace and post/thoughts there. https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3305395/episode-131-discussion-23rd-nov-2012

Collated EOD summary of 23rd Nov Episode discussion, if one is just reading updates and not watching the episodes. https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/70079935

Cheers,

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Episode 132 Discussion - EOD summary

Get Set Go for Madhu's "Main Karva Chouth Manaoongi"

Events of the episode.

Nothing substantial except build-up towards Karva Chouth track, with Madhu wanting to keep her for first KC vrat for her hubby, her MIL (Rads) forbidding her to keep any fast, Dips taunting her, RK comforting her and explaining nothing to worry as in reality KC is a farce, nothing but a dishonest act. RK takes her to the studio along with him. There Madhu schemes with Bittuji on how to get set go for "Main KC Manaoongi"

Episode reviews, analysis

Page 1 - Athena90, Leela, Soundarya, SD,

Page 2 - Gurtiluv, apolloartemis, kt25, SD

Page 3 - SD, zoya_naziya

Page 4 - Siri22

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Athena90

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One thing I'm very glad is to see some sense when Trishna is confronting Pads. She's absolutely right, there is no fairness and this its double standards. She can pray for the longlife and forgive a man who actively tried to ruin her kid's lives, but she can't forgive a man who was motivated to improve her kid's life?

One incident should not cast a shadow over an entire relationship. Mallik has done so much for them, it is bizzarre to forget everything.

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leelaa9

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Alright, did anyone else feel the freeloaders convention giving out gifts seemed nauseating?

And Radha is seriously deluded.🤢 I know I have a major problem with her as a mother, but this time, I'm just appalled at her idiocy.😕

I knew she was wilfully self-deluding since she hasn't in over a decade realized that Kukku *isn't* a wonderful stepfather.

But now... In earlier segments, she accused Madhu of doing karvachauth to impress her (Radha).😡 The woman is foolish beyond words.😕

At least she could have suspected Madhu of doing karvachauth to impress RK.😛

Radha ko impress karne se faayda kya?😕

She's a nobody in her son's house, and providing for herself and her Bhatia family with her own son's money.🤢

And today, she was sitting so regally and buying stuff for Dipali, herself and her friends with *Madhu's* husband's money, besides herself keeping karvachauth vrat for a husband who lives in his stepson's house and at his expense, and she told Madhu that Madhu is not to keep the karvachauth vrat for her husband.😡

And the reason is that Madhu once said that there was nothing between her and her husband? Irony much?😲

I mean, if it's a matter of not acknowledging a relationship meaning it doesn't exist, then RK doesn't acknowledge the four Bhatias as his relatives. Even Radha is just "mujhey janam denewaali aurat" to him.🤢

So - by Radha's standards applied to Madhu - Radha and the other three Bhatias should promptly pack their bags and leave the house rather than stay as relatives in the house of someone who doesn't consider them such.😡

It's not like her husband or her 'elder son Sikky' are either of them suffering from some ailment that prevents them from earning a living for themselves and the other three.

So, hardly like they would be destitute.😊

But oh yeah, they wouldn't be able to prance around as millionaires off her 'bad' son's RK's charity.😡 Sorry, not charity. It's responsibility. The sort of responsibility which involves not necessities or comforts but luxuries.

Madhu - as per segments - will face down Dipali and insist that she'll be keeping the vrat.😃

But I wish to God she soon faces down Radha too, because otherwise Dipali is not going to stop using Radha as the ready shoulder off which to take potshots at Madhu.

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-Srushti-

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res...Havent seen the epis...So will come back later...

Just a thought...Why the heck does RK not hire some Bodyguards and plant them outside their bedroom to haul that despo woman as soon as she tries to step inside and throw her somewhere in oblivion,,,,,

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hansa22

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Today's episode...build up to the KC confrontation..

Rishbala -
Too cute. they are in a comfortable status quo in their relationship, she is able to explain what she was doing on his couch, he accepts it without a fuss 😉 or rather conveniently accepts her explanation. Again he notices her smiling away. Little does he know how much has changed for his wife, this time she's all excited about her first KC.
I also liked the way RK explains to MB, the reason he does'nt believe in KC, very valid point, he sees no point in celebrating the festival with the double standards that both Dipali and Radhaji have, esp Dipali. He is used to seeing those double standards and therefore Kc has no meaning for him.
Despite all our reservations on RK's love for MB , one thing is very clear, he cares for her deeply, cannot bear to see her hurt, one look at the situation at home and he took her to the studio with him, he was not going to take any chance with her,, how sweet!!

These choti choti baatein make me happy. How can the girl not fall for him? I can still wait for those pillows to disappear😳.

So Madhu express chal padi. Am glad to see sherni is getting into form, this time with help from Bittuji. Getting ready to defy her MIL and hubby to do what she has to do. Did anyone notice she was 'nt worried about Sargi,she was more worried about the jewellery from her husband (not for the jewellery, but because she knows her husband is not the most enthu husband in town). But honestly, am completely on her side, he keeps saying BIWI, he's told Dipali he accepts her as his wife, so why not? If he can keep moving her fringe, she has every right to keep moving his hair off his face, right?? 😆

Madhu-Bittuji
Bittuji has changed sides. SO much so, that Madhu thought he would keep KC vrat?? (i did'nt get this part, someone pls explain). I like, in fact, super like, both of them against the Chief, the kadoos. 😊

Trishna-paddy
Another dramebaaz KC, and am sooo glad Trishna gave it to padma. This is the only regressive bone I see in Paddy, why the sindoor for her husband and the KC!!! She has forgiven her husband, and RK, and is not willing to even consider talking to Malik.

Radhaji
Nothing to say except that Radha looks like she's had a lobotomy, accha, rishu ki picture ke liye??!!!

KC Track
Am quite resigned to the fact that the family drama element is required, so now am going to root for Madhu enthusiastically to win this KC battle. 👍🏼, as long as we have our breather super episodes like the friday epi.

Another 👍🏼...MB actually completed one day within one episode. WOW, that's a first.😊

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Originally posted by: Athena90
One thing I'm very glad is to see some sense when Trishna is confronting Pads. She's absolutely right, there is no fairness and this its double standards. She can pray for the longlife and forgive a man who actively tried to ruin her kid's lives, but she can't forgive a man who was motivated to improve her kid's life?

One incident should not cast a shadow over an entire relationship. Mallik has done so much for them, it is bizzarre to forget everything.

Athena,

You bring up a good point. 👏

Agree with you. I have not forgiven Padmini for that 😆. And I brought her character to the murky area...the grey character areas.

We discussed Padmini at length intially in META discussion. I had said then that the woman has unresolved ideas about her marriage. She never knew what it means to be a wife married to that jaanwar Balraj, and she has all pent up desired to be the married woman.

Padmini still doing all those poojas for a husband from who she ran away and it is now 20 years since she abandoned him and Balraj thinks wife is dead to him, her marriage to Balraj is null and void now under legal view of the marriage.

She needs to think now...considering her two daughters have already grown up and do not require her care. And she is not that old yet to stop thinking about herself.

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Regardless of it being a Soap Drama, and that we need to be the sleeping cat, I will continue to uphold Trishna's views on Padmini in this manner. Once at the beginning of the story, I heard that even Madhu protested against her mother's hypocritic traits.

If the show producers promote Padmini's character in such a manner (I doubt them actually doing it...as so far they have managed all the characters to be a mix of positive and negatives traits, bringing in hypocrisy towards their stance when compared to their actions...I will go into pages if I start discussing this, so will stop here), Indian Television Academy (ITA) should start marking MEIEJ as 👎🏼 since the ITA also runs an NGO called Beti which is anti-female foeticide and is now foraying into woman all round support towards fight against atrocities.

Trishna, even on the case of Mukund Dikshit once asked Madhu to think objectively, how far it is justified of her to continue maintaining with Mukund when he did not even think twice in cutting himself off from Madhu when she hit bad days. Surprisingly the show writers are all voicing right opinions and view points from Trishna, who is supposed to be a selfish person. But whatever she speaks most of the time is right...except when she was misled by Roma to think herself as a Heroine and in the process becoming a tantrum queen at home.

Let me get you the link of the Meta thread...just in case any one is interested.

ETA:

Here is the Meta link.

META Pyromaniac Padmini v Roaring Radha!!

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3196337/meta-pyromaniac-padmini-v-roaring-radha

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leelaa9

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Guys, Padmini is finding it difficult to forgive even a repentant Mallick now for the same reason that she fled from her husband with her daughters.

Both times, it's about being a protective mother. Balraj would have killed Madhu. Mallick would have made Madhu a widow in her first few months of marriage.

Padmini has prayed for her evil husband's wellbeing. This is a woman to whom widowhood for her daughter is unthinkable.

And Mallick - who she considered herself united with in their feelings for the daughters - proved that he didn't even consider how socially, ritually and emotionally devastating it would be for their sanskaari conservative daughter Madhu.

Mallick only realized the facts after the third murder-attempt when RK pointed out to him how Madhu would react.

Mallick's actions would have been wrong but nevertheless understandable - but not if the daughter is Madhu.

Mallick recognized that RK was right in what he said about Madhu's reactions.

Divorce or separation would - if Madhu had not started to develop tender feelings for RK - have saved Madhu's life from being ruined.

But if her husband died so soon after marriage, then whether or not it was ever revealed that her father was the murderer, it would nevertheless have stigmatized Madhu for life.

People want to believe the worst about anyone for a moment's scandal.

The previous scandal would have been nothing compared to the nightmare Madhu would have to face this time if her husband died so soon after marriage.

Ironically, Shamsher's first priority being Madhu led to him trying to kill RK - and also later led to him accepting RK wholeheartedly as his daughter's husband.

If he was terribly wrong in his lack of hesitation in the former instance, he was a devoted father in the second instance in choosing to let all bygones be for his daughter's happiness.

Padmini too is placing her enormous indebtedness to and concern for Mallick a distant second after what so nearly happened to Madhu not once but *twice* (that she knows of).

RK is - to her - her daughter's husband. And as someone she has grown to trust with that position, he is the lynchpin she understands to be crucial to Madhu's happiness and indeed wellbeing.

It's absolutely wrong of her to discount what Mallick has done for her and her children for over two decades.

But - like Mallick - she's thinking with raw emotion and anguish. Give it time, and she'll come around, just as Mallick did.

The circumstances are different, but Shamsher's and Padmini's reaction have both been rooted in their outraged anguish at hurt Madhu suffered.

Only the cause of Madhu's hurt - and therefore the target of an anguished parent - has been different in each case.

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Today's episode revealed that RK doesn't specifically disagree with Madhu keeping a vrath but he disagrees with it in general. It goes back to his past and is lost faith in relationships. Everyone who he has seen keep the vrath thus far has done it in a really fake way. He saw his mother keep it for his father but she didnt think twice before remarrying right after his death. He saw dipali keep it for Sikky but she doesnt think twice before hitting on other men. Radhaji also keeps it for Kukkuji who really doesnt deserve it. But Radhaji told Madhu that she shouldnt keep one because her relationship with RK isnt genuine there was some huge irony in it. But hopefully Madhu will be able to convince RK there some meaning to this ritual as some ppl do do it with honest intentions and from heart. I have always been against since I believe it is unfair to have only women fast. But I have heard of husbands who fast for their wives on Karva Chauth too.

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Athena90

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Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Athena,

You bring up a good point. 👏

Agree with you. I have not forgiven Padmini for that 😆. And I brought her character to the murky area...the grey character areas.

We discussed Padmini at length intially in META discussion. I had said then that the woman has unresolved ideas about her marriage. She never knew what it means to be a wife married to that jaanwar Balraj, and she has all pent up desired to be the married woman.
Padmini still doing all those poojas for a husband from who she ran away and it is now 20 years since she abandoned him and Balraj thinks wife is dead to him, her marriage to Balraj is null and void now under legal view of the marriage.
She needs to think now...considering her two daughters have already grown up and do not require her care. And she is not that old yet to stop thinking about herself.

Social Message
Regardless of it being a Soap Drama, and that we need to be the sleeping cat, I will continue to uphold Trishna's views on Padmini in this manner. Once at the beginning of the story, I heard that even Madhu protested against her mother's hypocritic traits.

If the show producers promote Padmini's character in such a manner (I doubt them actually doing it...as so far they have managed all the characters to be a mix of positive and negatives traits, bringing in hypocrisy towards their stance when compared to their actions...I will go into pages if I start discussing this, so will stop here), Indian Television Academy (ITA) should start marking MEIEJ as 👎🏼 since the ITA also runs an NGO called Beti which is anti-female foeticide and is now foraying into woman all round support towards fight against atrocities.

Trishna, even on the case of Mukund Dikshit once asked Madhu to think objectively, how far it is justified of her to continue maintaining with Mukund when he did not even think twice in cutting himself off from Madhu when she hit bad days. Surprisingly the show writers are all voicing right opinions and view points from Trishna, who is supposed to be a selfish person. But whatever she speaks most of the time is right...except when she was misled by Roma to think herself as a Heroine and in the process becoming a tantrum queen at home.

Let me get you the link of the Meta thread...just in case any one is interested.

ETA:
Here is the Meta link.

META Pyromaniac Padmini v Roaring Radha!!
https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3196337/meta-pyromaniac-padmini-v-roaring-radha

I browsed through the META thread and it's really interesting. Wish I had seen it then and was part of the discussion.

I also did not know about ITA and Beti, that's very interesting.

Yes I agree, Trishna has been very sensible most of the time. I wouldn't put it that she misled Roma, probably more like Roma misled her (where is Roma anyway?) but that's quite mute in the context of the bigger picture. I do hope we get to see a bit more of Trishna and and the positive rational side of her gets shown more. She's a well-scripted character, just needs a bit more development. A bit more of her and a bit less of Saas-Bahu & Dipali would be awesome.

In other news, the precap? Really? Are we honestly going to get one more week of crappy KC preparations.

I also LOVED RK's description of the whole KC tradition. It's something that personally resonates strongly with me - why follow a tradition for one day in an entire year when your other actions are contradictory!

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