Episode 130 Discussion: 22nd Nov 2012

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Episode 130 Discussion: 22nd Nov 2012

Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

Objective behind the thread is

It helps in keeping the forum clean without much litter. People just need to fall in a habit.
We can have it like breathers at first followed by analysis.
It also helps like-minded souls and pals bond and gel together to drop in their thoughts for themselves as breathers and for their friends as a peep into the episode and for others to post their reviews.
And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

For those who cannot watch can have the Live/Written Updates.

Today's LU from : Armu4eva

https://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3303727

Note:

There are various other threads all over the forum. Please check out those as well. This is just one choice out of so many.
Readers are encouraged to post links of other members posts which had been "delightful read" towards analysis of episodic event/s or character analysis. It becomes an easy navigation in the myriad of posts and pages and can easily be overlooked.
The link to present day ED thread is always provided in the previous one discussed.Those who participated in previous thread can go to my posts and check the previous thread to get access to new link.
The link to Previous Episode thread if anyone wants to trace and post/thoughts there. https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3302171/episode-129-discussion-21st-nov-2012

Collated EOD summary of 21st Nov Episode discussion, if one is just reading updates and not watching the episodes. https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/69929219

Cheers,

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Shridevi Gaddam

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Episode 130 - EOD summary

Madhu gets sanction from her Mother

Events of the Episode

You can read kt25's episode summary over page 5

RK settles the 40 lacs drama between Radhaji and Padmini. Reminds everyone that his marriage to Madhu is not about 40 lacs but has deeper context than that, money just being part of it. He still prefers the relationship to be kept personal between RK and MB.
He asks Padmini to go and chat with Madhu in his room. Before leaving for shooting, he assures his MIL (Saasumaa) that though everyone has alienated Madhu, he has not and he will take care of Madhu. Padmini is very pleased and comforted.
Padmini advises Madhu to take her marriage to next level now as RK is in every way honoring his marriage with Madhu and duly taking care of her and respecting her.
Padmini leaves home to cook for Trishna and Shamsher...away from Shamsher's house and gets the food for them. Her way of showing anger, pain and betrayal to Shamsher and yet taking care of him and Trishna as her duty in the sense of a family.
Madhu, after her mother leaves, is all longing to be in RK's company. Spots RK's phone, left at home. Decides to go to studio to give it to him. RK senses her presence, looks for her, finds her and aks why she is here. Episode ends.

Reviews about the episode:

Page 1 - Gurtiluv, Leela, Siri22, apolloartemis

Page 2 - Charu, Soundarya22, Dovesview

Page 3 - SD

Page 5 - Kt25, tinutinu

Page 6 - Souhaila

Page 7 - Gurtiluv, zoya_naziya

Its not a Revenge drama...Forum is mistaken and spreading rumours unnecessarily.

Discussions - All the pages

Other non-episode related articles.

By Leela09 over page 2 - Good source of Information

MEIEJ - The making and Promoting of the show, since inception and until Episode 130

By SD over page 7 - What does RK actually obsess about ?

Rangamunch review - good one

http://rangmunch.tv/index.php/writers-gully/reflections-menu/item/2199-madhubala-love-lies-and-laments

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Madhubala was so cute today! RK was very sweet! The story didn't progress much besides Madhu starting to realize her feelings and at the same time be ashamed of them. She kept on telling herself "pagal ky Soch Rahi hai." But Paddy had to come and make Madhu realize her feelings sl it took an outside force someone who knew her inside out and could kind of sense her feelings. Now the question arises will Madhu confess her feelings or will she be afraid of rejection?

I don't know what to make of Radhaji any more I think she will be switching sides through this show like a ping pong ball. She is way too easily manipulated by others like Dipali. This explains why she couldn't be a mother in the true sense to RK after remarriage. Kukkuji probs easily manipulated her into having to neglect her son for one reason or the other. So the issue here isn't remarriage it is having a spine and a mind of your own.

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leelaa9

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Originally posted by: Gurtiluv
Madhubala was so cute today! RK was very sweet! The story didn't progress much besides Madhu starting to realize her feelings and at the same time be ashamed of them. She kept on telling herself "pagal ky Soch Rahi hai." But Paddy had to come and make Madhu realize her feelings sl it took an outside force someone who knew her inside out and could kind of sense her feelings. Now the question arises will Madhu confess her feelings or will she be afraid of rejection?

I don't know what to make of Radhaji any more I think she will be switching sides through this show like a ping pong ball. She is way too easily manipulated by others like Dipali. This explains why she couldn't be a mother in the true sense to RK after remarriage. Kukkuji probs easily manipulated her into having to neglect her son for one reason or the other. So the issue here isn't remarriage it is having a spine and aims of your own.

Agreed, Sona.👏

RK's reactions to Shamsher made it very clear that the child Rishabh would have treated with regard a father-figure worthy of respect.😊

Radha was a rotten judge of character, and then too self-protecting to admit how badly she had messed up.😡

The man she had brought home couldn't be a wretch, so her son must be the one becoming bad.🤢

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@ leela

Exactly my point there! Radhaji is still lucky that RK still respects Radhaji as much as he does. If I were in his shoes I would kicked the whole circus out along time ago!

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So I've been wrong in thinking that Rads has her own money. Geez.. she takes her sons money and want to throw his BIWI out. The nerve of the woman.😡

I don't understand why she doesn't trust her own sons' decisions? No wonder RK doesn't respect/love her.

Loved Padmini today. Every gal should have a mom like her.

One minor grouse Mads didn't tell Pads about third attempt.

Someone said in yday's thread I think Priya that mads will end up on the set and RK would be dancing someone and Mads will imagine them both. Looks like that's what's gonna happen tomorrow.

Kudos girl for guessing it right.👏

Oooh... Sizzling HOT in RED...Can't wait for tomorrow...

Happy Thanksgiving Gals...

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Good episode today- Madhu is falling into her feelings, is engrossed in her new love. Kudos. Not that I think RK will reciprocate but good for Madhu. I think it really shows the strength of her character that she was able to move past all that RK did, help him even before she knew him for the hurting child he was, and then fall in love/infatuation with him. Girl has strength. She'll need it going forward.

Also, I've been going through the threads here- what is up with the thinking that RK is doing all this to mess with Madhu? That this is his revenge? Like what? In a sense I can see it- the whole RK does this for revenge, shatters Madhubala, she leaves, he realizes he's in love with her, blah, blah, blah, forces her into the industry because she'll have nothing to do with him etc etc etc. But if that happens, why the heck would she fall in love with him again? Okay forget love, why she would go within 100 feet of him? What would be his leverage? No seriously, what? I don't get it. I thought the premise of the show was an intense passionate, Romeo/Juliet love story...not Machiavelli in love😛

Guys, am I missing something here? I don't think RK loves her, I think he will push her away once he realizes the depth of her feelings, but I don't think this is an elaborate revenge plot- he's bared too much of himself for that. So, what are some people seeing that I'm not?

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Originally posted by: apolloartemis
Good episode today- Madhu is falling into her feelings, is engrossed in her new love. Kudos. Not that I think RK will reciprocate but good for Madhu. I think it really shows the strength of her character that she was able to move past all that RK did, help him even before she knew him for the hurting child he was, and then fall in love/infatuation with him. Girl has strength. She'll need it going forward.
Also, I've been going through the threads here- what is up with the thinking that RK is doing all this to mess with Madhu? That this is his revenge? Like what? In a sense I can see it- the whole RK does this for revenge, shatters Madhubala, she leaves, he realizes he's in love with her, blah, blah, blah, forces her into the industry because she'll have nothing to do with him etc etc etc. But if that happens, why the heck would she fall in love with him again? Okay forget love, why would go within 100 feet of him? What would be his leverage? No seriously, why? I don't get it. I thought the premise of the show was an intense passionate, Romeo/Juliet love story...not Machiavelli in love😛
Guys, am I missing something here? I don't think RK loves her, I think he will push her away once he realizes the depth of her feelings, but I don't think this is an elaborate revenge plot- he's bared too much of himself for that. So, what are some people seeing that I'm not?

AA- Seriously even I don't understand that RK is doing this for revenge? Revenge Why? Bcos Malik tried killing him?

People who are saying Hotty is doing this for revenge have they even seen the past two episodes?

Like you I think he might push her away but saying this is a diabolical plot to just hurt her is an insult to Hotty.

Hamara Hotty itna neeche nahin girega.

And if the cv's dare show that I'm gonna stop watching the show. Not that anybody cares but just saying ya know..

And I saw your post saying in yday's thread that if you were Mads you would run away from Hotty so my question to you...

Gal...Have you seen the MAN that too in Red?

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apolloartemis

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Originally posted by: Siri22

AA- Seriously even I don't understand that RK is doing this for revenge? Revenge Why? Bcos Malik tried killing him?

People who are saying Hotty is doing this for revenge have they even seen the past two episodes?

Like you I think he might push her away but saying this is a diabolical plot to just hurt her is an insult to Hotty.

Hamara Hotty itna neeche nahin girega.

And if the cv's dare show that I'm gonna stop watching the show. Not that anybody cares but just saying ya know..

And I saw your post saying in yday's thread that if you were Mads you would run away from Hotty so my question to you...

Gal...Have you seen the MAN that too in Red?

Thank you. My point exactly. The reason he stopped hurting her was because his mother told him that the way he was was an insult to his fathers memory. He had an conversation with his father's photo for heaven's sake! Where does the diabolical mind theory come from? Seriously, people should read SD's posts about Madhu-RK's relationship- all their thoughts about the whole revenge thing would dissapear. Do I think he'll say he does not love her and push her away? Yes. Do I think he'll regret it? Yes. Do I know how the heck she gets forced into acting? No. Do I think this an elaborate mind-game? Oh, please, you are giving the CV's too much credit. They are waiting for the TRP's to come in to figure out when the next track is going to be.😕

As to your question: Hotty his hot...and he's amazing in red...but sorry, sweetie, his internal ball of crazy is way too much for me. Or I think, any normal, sane person. Madhu is nuts too...that's why she's his perfect fit.😆

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Originally posted by: apolloartemis
Good episode today- Madhu is falling into her feelings, is engrossed in her new love. Kudos. Not that I think RK will reciprocate but good for Madhu. I think it really shows the strength of her character that she was able to move past all that RK did, help him even before she knew him for the hurting child he was, and then fall in love/infatuation with him. Girl has strength. She'll need it going forward.
Also, I've been going through the threads here- what is up with the thinking that RK is doing all this to mess with Madhu? That this is his revenge? Like what? In a sense I can see it- the whole RK does this for revenge, shatters Madhubala, she leaves, he realizes he's in love with her, blah, blah, blah, forces her into the industry because she'll have nothing to do with him etc etc etc. But if that happens, why the heck would she fall in love with him again? Okay forget love, why she would go within 100 feet of him? What would be his leverage? No seriously, what? I don't get it. I thought the premise of the show was an intense passionate, Romeo/Juliet love story...not Machiavelli in love😛

Guys, am I missing something here? I don't think RK loves her, I think he will push her away once he realizes the depth of her feelings, but I don't think this is an elaborate revenge plot- he's bared too much of himself for that. So, what are some people seeing that I'm not?

AA, the MB powers-that-be announced two things that two sections of the viewers now especially want to see in the series - 'a dark love story' and 'Madhu becoming a filmstar'.

And they would each like to see what they were promised at the earliest. Which is eminently understandable.

The MB CVs have only themselves to blame for the fact that their fine hard work in characterizing the lead pairing is not getting the undivided attention that is its due.

They were idiotic enough to prioritize suspense, and almost took the serial into fatal convulsions thereby.

First the serial was supposed to be named 'Shikhar' (peak/pinnacle), but they scrapped that as too revealing.

Then they opted for 'Kathputli' (puppet), and decided against that for the same reason.

Then they picked 'Madhubala' and almost ended up in litigation because actual people associated with the real filmstar Madhubala thought the series was going to be about her.

Having erred with the title through desire to keep the story too much under wraps, they then blundered again after the fantastic beginning - when the story really needed to hit its stride.

They pretended that their own promos of RK moulding Madhubala into a star had slipped out of mind.

RK was introduced not soon enough after the adult Madhu's entry, and even after he was introduced, a huge amount of focus was placed on the Mukund track.

There were people who started to ship the Madhu-Mukund pairing under the impression that RK was going to be the villain. That was how messed up the presentation was getting.

And recent news items reveal that even the actor playing Mukund ended up with that hopeful impression.

One of the cable networks finally stopped playing along with the 'red herring' express, and changed the series-synopsis for MB, removing the word 'tragic'.

Saurabh Tiwari recently admitted that things got so bad that the series faced the possibility of being wrapped up.

They had to change the track they were heading for so meanderingly - of making Madhu a heroine (presumably through RK in the Pygmalion-Galatea mould as shown in the pre-series promos) and then having her and RK fall in love.

Instead, they had to switch tracks to the fast-lane and opt for the guaranteed lifesaver of having Madhu and RK getting married and falling in love first, and then Madhu becoming a filmstar, presumably under her husband's aegis bus almost assuredly for his sake if the scene of the defunct 'Sitara Studios' is to hold.

The current pace and track is going beautifully. If the CVs stick with the story that was shown in the promos, it will be a dark love story *and* Madhu will become a filmstar, but all at the right pace rather than in haste. Just hope they stick with the pace they have going now.

They went slow enough with the Madhu-Mukund track which was just supposed to be a means to have her and RK clash and meet that the series almost came to a halt.

This time, let them stick with the proper pace for the track as it now is. Lord, I do hope so.

The Pygmalion-Galatea story tends to work in every incarnation so long as it is skilfully adapted. It worked as George Bernard Shaw's pragmatic play, and it also worked as the romantic 'My Fair Lady' film.

'Madhubala: Ek Ishq Ek Junoon' should turn out fantastically so long as the focus stays on the leads.

The lead pairing are outstandingly talented actors, get along well with each other *and* have mindblowing chemistry.😳

Please, God, let the CVs capitalize on that as the fabulous bonanza it is⭐️, and not go cavorting on any other Mukund-style experiments.

And really hope that at least now the CVs stop trying for suspense. That red-herring diet is likely to give the series a case of food-poisoning of indeterminate gravity if it keeps leading entire sections of the viewership up different garden paths.

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