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Posted: 13 years ago
@Saf: That was as neat as always. Superb quotes!!👏


@Deepti: Good to see you back.😊


@Prasadini: Thanks for the article and the poem. Good stuff!!!👏


@Sanjana: Dramabaaz!!!😛 Hi...you were missed...🤗
Edited by InduG64 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
@ Indu: Thanks 😃. Hope u have a great day ahead 🤗
@ Zet, Pearl, Samana & Jyo: Loved your takes
@ Sanj & Deepti: Welcome back. Missed you both 🤗
Edited by saf24 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
AArti JOURNEY IN PUNAR VIVAH TILL SHE FALLS IN LOVE WITH YASH

This song "Maalai poluthin mayakkathile" this song is about a woman saying to her friend about her past she is a widow who lives in the memories of her husband i haven't seen the film but the lyrics is so appropriate that suits AARTI since beginning g of this show they have showed Mansi as her friend so i have imagined according to the lyrics AARTI expressing her
bitter past to her best friend .

Maalai pozhudhin mayakkathile
In the woozy time of evening


Naan kanavu kanden thozhi
I had a dream friend


Manadhil irundhum vaarthaigalillai
No words issued from my heart


Kaaranam en thozhi?
Why is it friend?


Inbam sila naal thunbam sila naal Endradhu yaar thozhi
Who said pain is for a short time and pleasure is for a short time friend?


Inbam kanavil thunbam edhiril Kanbadhum en ehozhi
Pain in facing me and pleasure is only in dreams Why friend?



Manamudithavar pol arugunile ore vadivu kanden thozhi
I saw someone next to me who liked like he was married to me



Mangay en kayil kungumam thandhaar maalyittar thozhi
He put kumkum (vermillion) in my hand and garlanded me



Vazhi marandheno vandhavar nenjil saayndhu vitten thozhi
Did I forget my way? I rested on the chest of the man who came




Avar maraven maraven endrar udane marandhu vittar thozhi
Parandhuvittar thozhi
He said he will never forget but immediately forgot
And flew away



Kanavinil vandhavar yaarena keeten
I asked the person in my dream Who he was, friend




Kanavar endrar thozhi
He said he was my husband


Kanavar endral avar kanavu mudindhadhum Pirindhadhu En thozhi?
If he was then why did he get separated after the dream, friend?



Ilamai ellam verum kanavu mayam adhil maraindhadhu sila kaalam
Youth is just an empty dreamy state, in which some time disappears






Thelivum ariyadhu mudivum theriyadhu mayangadhu edhir kaalam
Without clarity and without knowing the end stutters the future.




I hope friends you'll like it.

Edited by lulujjjj - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
@Indu: Anytime Love! and thank you as well 🤗

Yup thank goodness it was a filler and as for Dubey it would be great to see him actually take some actions instead of just talking about doing something but fails to do it *RME* 🤔

As for Aarti, I don't want her to go through any physical harm either but how it be avoided with all the stress she's going through now ...I know that our Yash babu will come through for her despite feeling hurt, he won't let her face anymore trouble or worries.

My heart was breaking for Aarti & Yash last night I just wanted to give them both a BIG 🤗 especially Aarrti who was dealing with an inner battle 😭😭

Hope the rest of your day slows down...Enjoy and good luck *muah* 🤗🤗


@Saf: Beautiful as ever my friend, love the quotes 👏 👏...thank you!



EDIT: I got a feeling Yash is going to find out cause the Dubeys and Aarti gonna have a fight in the hospital where they would want to take Ansh for the BMT but since Yash didn't give his consent since she didn't get a chance to tell him...Aarti won't allow it and they are going to be angry at her, Yash who will be anxious to be there for his son will come to the hospital and hear their convo.

I really Yash to find out the whole truth from Aarti's mouth and words...Then he can see and hear the turmoil she has been living with for months


Time to get back to buying my veggies & fruits...Laters!!!! 😉
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Posted: 13 years ago


Mummy, I want that puppy!

Here is my take or rant shall I say.

When would Yash come to know that his son Ansh is being mishandled by his grandmother and grandfather! I want him to protect his son from the world as:"There's a lots of ugly things in the world." I would love if he would explain to his son that this and that sometimes his grandparents can become the ugly thing by taking advantage of his innocence. But we all know,"That's impossible!"

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Well I'm getting ahead of myself. It's wonderful that he is concerned about the health of his Ansh and it's his number one priority to take him to a doctor for vaccination because he does not want him to get sicker because of negligence.

Shobha stop treating Ansh like you own him! Shobha and Mr Dupey are now worried that Yash is taking Ansh away from them.This reminds me of the kid who wants the neighbors puppy and who throws a temper tantrum!

Bua's concern that Arti ran away to her mother is well placed but the way she goes about it is all wrong me thinks!


She should come down from her high throne. "Who died and made you the queen?" says Cas! No not really but it's good that he stopped her and put her in her place after all Arti is not her daughter in law!

Cas has now told Arti what I've been dying to tell her if I ever met her. That is inform someone when you go out on an errand and this never happens the way we want because we always forget to tell someone even if we intend to tell someone that we are going out. Kudos to CV's for grounding this show in minute details of real life. I loved this part the most crazy as it may sound!

But still Bua has forgotten her place and she is with her divide and conquer tactics! She must have been the Queen of Hearts in another incarnation!off with her head


Two episodes ago she was complaining that the three Bahu's were walking by like three Disney princess!

Ah I was going to state that Yash should somehow finish up on his court date with Paridhi, Pankaj and Prateek and be with Arti and Ansh. Better yet he skip it.


Go ahead reveal the truth. Put all your cards down Mr. Dupey! I'm sure you are not going to come up all aces!

Beware not all 52 cards are aces! Because this is not possible!

Why am I lecturing a fictional character but I'm sure the drama is going to go the other way if he tells all to Yash and not the way he wants to direct it.

But the part I loved most I saved to say in the last paragraph which is Yash said. "See I can untangle your necklace from your hair and solve your problems too so don't hesitate to share your problems!" I know I tweaked the statement but it holds the same sentiments.

I'll end this with these lyrics from Lion King song.

In a perfect world
One we've never known
We would never need to face the world alone

They can have the world
We'll create our own
I may not be brave or strong or smart
But somewhere in my secret heart

I know
Love will find a way
Anywhere I go
I'm home
If you are there beside me

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Edit: I'm going to do a little experiment by putting this take in the main forum to see how people react to this!

Also if you are reading this @Sanju or KinSanj, can you do some gifs on the episode, please?😃
Edited by AngelDark - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Before I begin my take let me clarify - I do not think that the Dupeys are malevolent. In my opinion, they are individuals who are insecure in their inability to handle social relations, particularly under pressure, and so resort to manipulation to achieve their objectives.

The Dupey family decision making process is intriguing. Emotions play an important role in this activity 'and they invoke fear, obligation, and guilt to tilt the decision in their favor. They are subjecting Aarti to deceptive tactics and emotional manipulation/ blackmail/ atyachaar to get Ansh to be a bone marrow donor.

The Dupeys would have gone ahead with the BMT without Ansh, Aarti-n-Yash's knowledge of the medical procedure that Ansh was subjected to as well as the fact that P has terminal cancer. Unfortunately for Shobha and Dupey ' when left alone with Ansh, P fainted and Ansh called Aarti for assistance. Now their secret that P is back with them and that he has cancer is out. So they are trying their usual tactic on Aarti - emotional manipulation. They are stirring up uncomfortable feelings of obligation (Ansh is their potha), treachery (to her own values-n-principles, Ansh, Yash and Scindhiyas), guilt (by failing to save Shobha's son P while she lives safely in happiness with her son and 2 daughters with Yash), and sympathy (for P re: illness and them re: potential loss of son) in Aarti by claiming that she ALONE can resolve the issue.

This is not the first time that they have subjected Aarti to emotional manipulation. In fact, she is so accustomed to it that she doesn't even generally recognize when the emotional extortion is happening until her frustration piques and/or her integrity is violated. Why has Aarti put up with it? In fact some DCians even say it is Aarti's fault. Viewers need to recollect that Aarti is an orphan. The Dupeys have provided her love, security and shelter. They have dispelled her loneliness by making her part of their family and given her an identity in society. They even cast off their son to embrace her. What is hard for the viewers to perceive and understand are Aarti's underlying fears and concerns, for these have only been implied and have not been explicitly portrayed.

Some of the core issues for Aarti are the loneliness, rejection and the insecurities she faced as an orphan. As well as the taunts, fears and self-denial she had to endure. And, above all her over-powering desire to please others in order to be accepted and gain their approval.

Aarti still seeks her mother-Shobha's approval, is afraid that the Dupeys might disown her, stop loving her, or become angry with her. At a conscious or subconscious level, the Dupeys know these things and use them to their advantage. Be reminded, this is not about vilifying the Dupeys. They are doing their best given their limited social and family decision making skills.

So what is Aarti to do?

She tried offering resistance (albeit timidly) by saying she cannot take this decision alone and needs to consult Yash. Shobha used fear tactics to squash her by stating that Yash may get volatile if the P truth is revealed. So Aarti needs to be more assertive with them. She needs to feel safe about Yash's love and approval - and my dears she is doing exactly that by replaying his assurances in her mind. Some DC members yesterday felt that Yash's dialogues were OTT - not in the very least. The words and the sincerity with which they were conveyed are the exact antidote that Aarti needs to boost her morale and battle the Dupeys.

Today by not answering Shobha over the phone and by mentally replaying Yash's conversation with her - Aarti is moving towards freedom from manipulation. What additional desperate measures the Dupeys will now resort to and whether AarYa are able to combat them and at what cost remains to be seen.

Aarti: "Sar mera chakaraye ' kya karu mein haye?" (My head is going in circles ' what do I do?)

DCians: "Aaja pyare DC pad le ' kahe ghabiraye ? Kahe ghabiraye? (Come dear read our DC - why be afraid? Oh, why are you afraid?)

EDIT: Some called yesterday's post a filler - no it was not. The purpose was to delve deeper into Aarti's psyche and her battle to free herself from being emotionally blackmailed. As you can see Yash is playing a major role in her recovery!
Edited by anonee - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
hello...a possible scnario in my opinion...aarti refuses to dubey's.prashant will die.(shoubha led mnhos with that ceremony)dubey's shout piercing and blaming aarti publicly, they broke and yash comes to the hospital because he finished early from court and yash will comes to know everything in the place...aarti will faints she would lose the baby maybe.yash remains with her in the hospital.dubey's take ansh with them.after that ,they dont want to return ansh they will say that they are alone because of her they lost their only son.then may the decision of yash or aarti or sp that she will return to dubey's home...and the journey begins again because naw they in love after much pain and in the middle the pain of each one .only buaa will be happy. ..it would be sad until episode 300...the dubey's will see how misrable aarti is and suffering of yash palak ansh and payal and perhaps then let go(there was a hint that they asked permission to go twice after kc).many water not the backlight turns of the fire of love and rivers not rinsed.days to come for aarti and yash...
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Posted: 13 years ago
Few pointers in defence of Aarti .. dunno if it makes any sense 😆.. but still 😳...

I saw few debates regarding how Aarti could deal with Yash's past because she was aware of it whereas Yash is not aware of Aarti's past at all ... Now this is where my point is why Yash never bothered to ask Aarti about her past ?? 🤔.. I remember when Aarti saw Yash's pain for Arpita , she actually made all sort of attempts to know how Arpita died or why Yash is so attached to Arpita and only after knowing it all , she tried to bring Yash back to his senses but in case of Aarti , I always felt Yash was nowhere interested to know about her past of how she lost her husband or what happened ... Mayb today if Yash asks her about whats bothering her so much ..is it got to do with her past .. I bet Aarti will give it out all at one go 😊 .. Aarti's fear comes from the fact that she is scared of another round of rejection or outburst coming from Yash and so she is not able to tell him and whenever she tried to tell him , we saw some interference coming in .. .. Just how Aarti made huge efforts to find out the "uss raat" mystry and Arpita connection on her own during Yash's self-destructive phase , I want to see Yash make similar efforts to find out whats bothering Aarti since even Yash can see clearly that something is really bothering her 😊.. I0n Yash's owrds only , its all about equality in a relationship 😛...


Another debate is how can Aarti get so easily manipulated by Dubeys .. Why is her own brain not working ?? ... I guess this is something got to do with the fact that she is an orphan and her only guardian here is Shobha whom she always looks upto whenever she is in such dilemma .. Today Shobha too has taken the route of lie and manipulation for her son , and this has totally shattered Aarti and she is in a position where she is actually hving no idea which way to go ,... If she fulfills her wife's duty and says it all to Yash , and if Yash says no for Ansh's bone marrow operation , then Prashant dies and this way Aarti fails as a daughter in front of Shobha and if she fulfills her daughter's duty and allows Ansh for the bone marrow operation without telling it to Yash , then Prashant survives but Aarti fails as a wife in front of Yash ... So she has to choose between a wife's duty and a daughter's duty ... She cannot forget that Shobha as mother supported Aarti that time when Prashant left her during her pregnency .. that time if Shobha left Aarti and opted for Prashant , she would hv been on the roads mayb .. On the other hand she also cannot forget that despite hving all sort of reservations , Yash still went ahead to accept their unborn child with open arms and is fulfilling every single duty of a husband which Prashant could never fulfill during Ansh's time .. If Yash had rejected this kid , then she would hv been once again left all alone in life ... So somewhere if she balances both Shobha and Yash's importance in her life .. both stands equal .. Where will she go in such case ?? ... Aarti's basic nature itself is emotional and no way she can think in selfish way just for her own happiness at this stage .. We saw it during Paridi case too .. This is what makes things further difficult for her ...
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: simonaet

hello...a possible scnario in my opinion...aarti refuses to dubey's.prashant will die.(shoubha led mnhos with that ceremony)dubey's shout piercing and blaming aarti publicly, they broke and yash comes to the hospital because he finished early from court and yash will comes to know everything in the place...aarti will faints she would lose the baby maybe.yash remains with her in the hospital.dubey's take ansh with them.after that ,they dont want to return ansh they will say that they are alone because of her they lost their only son.then may the decision of yash or aarti or sp that she will return to dubey's home...and the journey begins again because naw they in love after much pain and in the middle the pain of each one .only buaa will be happy. ..it would be sad until episode 300...the dubey's will see how misrable aarti is and suffering of yash palak ansh and payal and perhaps then let go(there was a hint that they asked permission to go twice after kc).many water not the backlight turns of the fire of love and rivers not rinsed.days to come for aarti and yash...


There is a possibility that Dubeys will want Ansh back in case Prashant dies and we might hv a intense custody battle on this but I dont think Aarti will return back to Dubey house since she promised SP after returning back from Lalitpur that irrespective of the circumstances , she wont leave Scindia mansion ever ... So I dont think that kind of separation is coming 🤔
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Posted: 13 years ago
hello jyoti...true i forgot so i'm very glad becaus i became sad of my theory...tu

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