Jag and the Jaitserians

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Posted: 13 years ago
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So I just watched yesterday's episode (super-late, I know). I know a lot of people on here are riled up about Saanchi, but what personally really bugged me was those villagers who came to congratulate Jagya. I don't know if anyone else on here feels the same, but that scene annoyed me on so many levels that I just have to rant about it. So here goes.


1) I get that they were happy about the trade union (was it a trade union Jagya was working on setting up? I don't remember because I was semi-avoiding BV at that particular juncture due to the excessive Jizardness and general AnShless misery), but in my humble opinion, it's not really very polite to visit people after dinner, especially when they have guests over. I'm sure Makhan must have mentioned that they had company as soon as the farmers came over - like it would only be the natural thing for him to say, "They have guests, you can come back later". Which means the farmers must have been like, "Nooo, please can we see her now, humse raha nahin jaayega!". Like seriously... they could have just come back later when the Singhs were more free. It's not like it was an emergency and they HAD to see Maajisa NOW NOW NOW. 🤔


2) Even forgiving their lack of decorum in 1), one would think that when they saw Shiv and his family present, they would think better of going on and on and on about Jagya... given that the two in-laws-to-be were obviously having a family gathering and Jagya is Shiv's fiancee's ex-husband. Seriously, a little bit of tact never killed anyone.


3) I'm annoyed that their leader called Anandi "Beendhni Sa"... but OK, slips of tongue happen... I'll let him off on that one (with much reluctance 😡).


4) The clincher for me was giving the mithais to Anandi. Dude. Not cool. I know she's always been the gaon's 'beendhni sa', but she and Jagya are now DIVORCED. Yes, I'm aware divorces aren't exactly commonplace in villages, but surely they know that she's now ENGAGED to someone else now? Who happened to be PRESENT IN THE SAME ROOM ALONG WITH HIS FAMILY!? Jagya's whole family was there - couldn't they have given the mithais to one of his immediate relatives, i.e. Maajisa or Bhairon, instead of going for Anandi out of habit without bothering to consider the delicacy of the situation?


I know that whole situation was probably just the CVs' way of bringing "the Jagya issue" to Saanchi's attention. But it just really annoys me that the Jaitserians don't seem to understand the need for tact in this matter. Like even when Jagya was around in Jaitsar, just 'cause he was doing good work in the community (curing everybody of swine flu, setting up trade unions etc), they all just expected Shiv and Anandi to be fine and dandy with it. And AnSh are both extremely tolerant and patient people and are both dedicated to Jaitsar's welfare, so they bore with it all for the sake of the village. But not once was there a single scene that showed that ANY the villagers had so much as considered how awkward things had to be for Shiv and Anandi. I mean, the farmers carried Jagya to Shiv's office that time... and of course Shiv was pleased to hear about them getting a good price for their produce, but they could have informed him of that in a way that didn't involve hero-worshipping Jagya. Feelings of jealousy and awkwardness are pretty universal... so I don't think it's unreasonable to have expected it to occur to the villagers that it wasn't a very nice thing to do to carry Shiv's fiancee's ex into his office. Surely they wouldn't like that to happen to them if they were in Shiv's position!?


I guess one could argue that all this is probably a realistic way of showing how people in traditional rural communities are often not used to the idea of divorce and have trouble mentally separating the two people in a divorced couple from each other... but even then it makes no sense, really. I mean, on the one hand the panchayat were complaining about how the sarpanch and collector were spending too much time together... then they were informed by Dadisa that said sarpanch and collector were engaged and were happy about it... but then they didn't seem to be morally perturbed by Jagya and Anandi staying in the same house after Jagya's return. Presumably this "ladka ladki shaadi se pehle nahin mil sakte" rasm is common in Jaitsar if Dadisa's upholding it and everybody in the village looks up to Dadisa (THOUGH APPARENTLY NOT ENOUGH TO NOT BARGE INTO HER HOUSE WHEN SHE HAS GUESTS OVER 😡), so I don't see how the same lot of people can morally reconcile insisting upon that with somehow being totally OK with giving a to-be dulhan gifts for her ex-husband. It just seems very morally contradictory and arbitrary, and I don't know if that's a realistic depiction of rural attitudes or just the CVs not thinking things through properly.


Anyway, I think this has gotten long enough... just needed to get it off my chest, as it's been vaguely bugging me for weeks and just came to a head last episode. I'd really like to know if any of y'all share my opinions on this or if I am just being my usual overreacting and overthinking self. xD 😛

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Nah, you're right: it was the easiest plot contrivance to bring up Jagdish's name in front of Saanchi. Which begs the question that when Shiv informed his family about Anandi's divorce in his first conversation with them about her, why make such a big deal about Saanchi knowing about it? She doesn't have the final say-so in all family decisions, does she?

Not just now, Jaitsarians are quite often used as a convenient deus ex machina.

Great post, by the way.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheRedQueen

Nah, you're right: it was the easiest plot contrivance to bring up Jagdish's name in front of Saanchi. Which begs the question that when Shiv informed his family about Anandi's divorce in his first conversation with them about her, why make such a big deal about Saanchi knowing about it? She doesn't have the final say-so in all family decisions, does she?

Not just now, Jaitsarians are quite often used as a convenient deus ex machina.



Mhm, you're right. They have often been used in that manner... I don't know why it's only started bugging me recently. I think it's 'cause I like things to be consistent, and the Jaitserians are as pendulum-y as Jagya. 😆


About Saanchi... yeah, the Shekhars all seem keen to bend over backwards in order to not upset her 😕 Ira in particular seems like she's afraid of her own daughter, which is nuts!


And thanks for the compliment! 😊 The whole thing was just really bugging me... I had to say something, haha. xD
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@TM: You are bang on target!! It bugged me too! Rural or urban, regardless of which community you belong to, a bit of a tact can be observed. That is called MATURITY. The villagers just go bonkers over anything that benefits them and yet at the same time hurt someone immensely. Purely selfish attitude! And mind you, it is universal!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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You are absolutely right and we have discussed it or I am sure all have felt it but noone just put it so emphatically and beautifully as you have Naz...

CVs are blundering big time...just to bring back Jagya again, they are not convincing at all 😡

Story prolong karni hai by hook or by crook...sometimes I am proud of the CVs sharpness and sometimes sach mein sir peetne ko dil karta hai😲

at the end of the day just feel noone is perfect and no plot too 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: roberoi

Sory prolong karni hai by hook or by crook...sometimes I am proud of the CVs sharpness and sometimes sach mein sir peetne ko dil karta hai😲

at the end of the day just feel noone is perfect and no plot too 😆



Yes, that pretty much sums it up! 😆 And thank you for the compliment!


@mozart66: You're exactly right. One thing I've never liked in BV is that more often that not, it's like there are the main characters on one side and then an easily-swayed population of villagers on the other with whom the main characters occasionally clash on particular issues. In real life, everybody has individual viewpoints... it's not generally realistic to show an entire village as a "block" of people who all see things the same way (though of course it's a lot easier to take that route for the purposes of writing and shooting a daily soap...)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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You are bang on target dear but actually there are multiple things which come to my mind as a result of this post and comments on it -
It is true that CVs tend to get inconsistent when they look for easy ways to put their point across. Viallgers coming and praising Jagdeesh and then giving mithai to Daadisa would have been enough to bring out the point abt Jagadessh in front of Sanchi. But they wanted to just create suspense at the precap point and highlight Anandi's past and hence this faux paus...it was totally uncalled for and unnecessary...it did not raise drama point as much as it raised questions on thier credibility as creatives.
Also, the point abt bringing Jagdeesh on their shoulder to office...again it was just a way to exageraate the good things he was doing suddenly for his village...I can still give a benefit of doubt assuming they did not know Anandi will be there and as a collector probably it was Shiv's perogative to know abt it...
Now coming to they Jagya staying in haveli...i would say it is one's own personal matter. But yes, yet again, in greed of getting high drama CVS blotched it a little. Maybe they could have shown some villagers gossiping and Shiv getting angry on evesdropping them...that would have been the right way abt it. As you say it is hard to believe that villagers will not gossip abt such an event.
As to Saanchi - I personally think there is nothing wrong with the track. I know of many teenagers and young people, who live in cities and are very snobbish and rude. "Ewww...how do u go an visit your grandparents in village...do they have proper toilets?"...this was a question I have heard many a times. So people like Sanchi are a reality who think they are modern but miss the whole point that modernity is not about western clothes or education...it is about being tolerate towards other people's cultures and thoughts...
Ira is shown almost scared of her daughter. That also I have seen happening first hand in amny homes. Kids become so rude and angry that in thier love, parents loose all control over them. They are not able to discipline them, or disown them and are scared of what such kids will say or do and how they can tarnish thier image in front of society. I feel at this point ira is more worried about their respect as she is scared abt Saanchi's reactions in front of Singhs. This is typically a case where kids don't do things big enough to disown them like Jagya but at the same time, they are hard to control and manage
One thing which really hit me very badly though was Shekhar's reluctance to tell Saanchi abt divorce. At this point I am giving them a benefit of doubt that they are doing it because they are scared of how she will react in front of Singhs and not ebcause they are hypocites and actually see it as something to be ashamed of. Till now, they have been shown as reasonable people so I really hope it is just because they are afraid of Saanchi's big mouth and her ability to hurt Shiv, Anandi and Singhs...
Puri raam katha likh di maine...sorry if I bored u
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Posted: 13 years ago
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the villagers really are very very irritating and get on my nerves.always either overly happy or sad.🤡
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ritzy09

You are bang on target dear but actually there are multiple things which come to my mind as a result of this post and comments on it -

It is true that CVs tend to get inconsistent when they look for easy ways to put their point across. Viallgers coming and praising Jagdeesh and then giving mithai to Daadisa would have been enough to bring out the point abt Jagadessh in front of Sanchi. But they wanted to just create suspense at the precap point and highlight Anandi's past and hence this faux paus...it was totally uncalled for and unnecessary...it did not raise drama point as much as it raised questions on thier credibility as creatives.
Also, the point abt bringing Jagdeesh on their shoulder to office...again it was just a way to exageraate the good things he was doing suddenly for his village...I can still give a benefit of doubt assuming they did not know Anandi will be there and as a collector probably it was Shiv's perogative to know abt it...
Now coming to they Jagya staying in haveli...i would say it is one's own personal matter. But yes, yet again, in greed of getting high drama CVS blotched it a little. Maybe they could have shown some villagers gossiping and Shiv getting angry on evesdropping them...that would have been the right way abt it. As you say it is hard to believe that villagers will not gossip abt such an event.
As to Saanchi - I personally think there is nothing wrong with the track. I know of many teenagers and young people, who live in cities and are very snobbish and rude. "Ewww...how do u go an visit your grandparents in village...do they have proper toilets?"...this was a question I have heard many a times. So people like Sanchi are a reality who think they are modern but miss the whole point that modernity is not about western clothes or education...it is about being tolerate towards other people's cultures and thoughts...
Ira is shown almost scared of her daughter. That also I have seen happening first hand in amny homes. Kids become so rude and angry that in thier love, parents loose all control over them. They are not able to discipline them, or disown them and are scared of what such kids will say or do and how they can tarnish thier image in front of society. I feel at this point ira is more worried about their respect as she is scared abt Saanchi's reactions in front of Singhs. This is typically a case where kids don't do things big enough to disown them like Jagya but at the same time, they are hard to control and manage
One thing which really hit me very badly though was Shekhar's reluctance to tell Saanchi abt divorce. At this point I am giving them a benefit of doubt that they are doing it because they are scared of how she will react in front of Singhs and not ebcause they are hypocites and actually see it as something to be ashamed of. Till now, they have been shown as reasonable people so I really hope it is just because they are afraid of Saanchi's big mouth and her ability to hurt Shiv, Anandi and Singhs...
Puri raam katha likh di maine...sorry if I bored u


My fear too in bold 😕...I have declared them hypocrites in response to Anjy's thread but in one corner of my heart wish to give them same benefit of doubt as u want to specially to Ira as she has been shown to be very reasonable and mamatamayi maan and of course dignified lady...

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