Episode 117 Discussion: 5th Nov 2012 - Page 8

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Posted: 12 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: Escape.My.Love.

exactly..and thats exactly why rk has the power to hurt her the most as well..she can face everyones taunts..but anything from rk tears her apart...

😲 I've always found Radha to have an astounding capacity to be made to cry by anyone at all.
RK is the only one who should actually do something in retaliation for her constant unfair criticisms, but he doesn't.
When Kukku pressed the 500-rupee note into Madhu's wounded hand tightly and Madhu visibly winced in agony, Radha afterwards came and rebandaged the hand. But she didn't even recognize or acknowledge her husband's actions.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: leelaa9

Koyel, firstly it's good to see a post directly from you again.

you know me? oh..😆
I don't think Rishabh the child would have tried to hide from his mother what sort of people she brought into their lives. He was - in Radha's words as well as in flashbacks - an openly emotional boy.
exactly...the child rishabh is still walking aorund hurt pricked , broken inside the "hostile" sexy rk mask..Rk never moved beyond the age of 12..hes still 12 emotionally and psychologically..if there is anyone who is making this little boy HAPPY in 17 years..its his wife :)
It is RK the man who has shields around his emotions.
Radha is a good person at heart, agreed. And if I thought RK could forgive her and yet keep her at a distance, I would be all for it.
He's still a child and perhaps he always will be..sometimes such events happen in life that we can never move beyond that particular year of our life...exactly the case with rk..he was never a 29 year old superstar..he was a 12 year old brat who is angry at the world when love was stolen away from him forever...and that child is STILL hurt..even if madhu is making him heal..the injuries are still there..the hurt of your mom marrying another man...that denial of handling such a situation in maturity will perhaps never develop since he is a hurt child on the process of finally finding happiness...
But RK can't ever stop caring about people. He still loves his mother, he still takes care of her, and her words still hurt him.
true...he really cares. <3
She is warm-hearted and loving, but her need to believe she made the right decision has shaped her character almost to the exclusion of all else.
exactly...but if i am not wrong radha did say to madhu once that maybe she made the worng decision but she did it for him..so that he doesn't feel the absence of a father...and she is so worng in that..cause no one can replace a loving guardian..nobody...and like i said..shes wrong but shes made of heart..but being loving is never enough.ever. you need so much more in a relationship.always.
We have seen glimpses of an authoritative Radha, very much in control of situations.
But her desperation to never see the reality of Kukku even when he is obviously wrong means that she leaves her son open to being wounded by Kukku, Sikki and Dips. And then she gets played into criticizing him and unknowingly rubbing salt into his wounds.
she's unaware..she has no idea and she thinks everyone is right about whatever he does cause he forbids her to let him in and that hurts her..but she is the one who closed her own door within his heart..though that door never did really dissapear...its still there inside..waiting to open..
The situation with Madhu at the party was a classic example. Radha had no idea what actually happened. Kukku and Sikki told her everything except that RK had told Madhu to leave midway, and then they gloated behind her back.
Mohan Kundra would probably have committed suicide several times over if he had had to see the sort of mothering her wife gave their son in the boy's formative years. RK *should* have told his mother that. At that moment, after what she said, she would have deserved it. But he didn't.
Even when Madhu poured out RK's drinks, it was part of her and RK's hostilities and making each other's life difficult. Radha thought her ablaa-naari devoted-wife bahu was doing it out of concern for RK's health.
Madhu is a gem of a person. But even if she weren't, Radha would consider her exactly that because she *wants* that to be true.
well good people have that in common..they have far too strong super egos that the ID rarely gets its voice heard. 😆
Radha's way of thinking is identical when it comes to two people as extremely different as Kukku and Madhu. And I find it contemptible.
yeah she is a wrong judge of character..always but thats also cause shes ben a toy of manipulation for everyone around her..its not like RK ever shakes her and says " wake up and smell the coffee , my jaanaam deney waali auarat!" 😆
She has a perfect bahu, but she doesn't truly understand it as an actual fact quite different from her fond delusions of Kuku the perfect father-figure.
yeah , she is in a delusion..and that delusion will break after a long time.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: leelaa9

😲 I've always found Radha to have an astounding capacity to be made to cry by anyone at all.
RK is the only one who should actually do something in retaliation for her constant unfair criticisms, but he doesn't.
When Kukku pressed the 500-rupee note nto Madhu's wounded hand tightly and Madhu visibly winced in agony, Radha afterwards came and rebandaged the hand. But she didn't even recognize or acknowledge her husband's actions.

thats exactly why i said that she is SPINELESS even though she has a lot of love to give..but as i said again and again..loving is never enough in any sort of bond.ever.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Koyel, this discussion is great⭐️ (still hoping you'll start the wolf series⭐️ again on a regular basis), but can we stop discussing Radha? Thinkng about her is going to cut into the magic of the even the Rishbala scenes in tonight's ep otherwise.😕😆 I've written about RK's views about a second father in my most recent thread 'Love, Ego_'. Have you read it?😛
Edited by leelaa9 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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originally posted by siri22
Hey vaani,

You know what just the day before I was at my sis house due to power loss at our place and I was talking to my nephew. He said he brushes his teeth after breakfast. Cos once he brushed the orange juice and everything else doesn't taste good.

I was grossed out and told him so. Guess RK doesn't like the taste of food after he brushes.😊



Food along with germs, some find it tasty😆.Yes Siri, i am aware of this habit,😊.Some people do that. .May be, they can't give up this habit 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: leelaa9

Koyel, this discussion is great⭐️ (still hoping you'll start the wolf series⭐️ again on a regular basis), but can we stop discussing Radha? Thinkng about her is going to cut into the magic of the even the Rishbala scenes in tonight's ep otherwise.😕😆 I've written about RK's views about a second father in my most recent thread 'Love, Ego_'. Have you read it?😛

I READ THAT RK AND MADHU ONE RECENTLY..NOT THE VIEWS OF THE FATHER YET..I HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE FORUM FOR A LONG LONG TIME.LOL.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Escape.My.Love.

I READ THAT RK AND MADHU ONE RECENTLY..NOT THE VIEWS OF THE FATHER YET..I HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE FORUM FOR A LONG LONG TIME.LOL.

I know you haven't been around for a while. Was delighted to see your analysis in addition to Tanzie's on her ep thread some days back.😃
I've just written four essays, and usually all the links are added in the second or third post first-page.Tongue That's for my convenience so I can find them more easily.Confused😆
Please comment if and when you have time, and write as long or emoticon-style short as you like.😊 Love the way you write.Star Hope you'll restart the wolf series at some point. The imagery in your ep-analyses were great.😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: leelaa9

Last night's ep was very nice😃, and the Rishbala moments were lovely.😳
But what got me into lingering fury was at the start of the ep when Radha said that dialogue to RK, all I could think was that replace the word 'biwi' with 'beta' and replay it, and you can understand that RK understood his wife in a short time, but his mother never understood her beta in 17 years.😡
Radha wounded RK's ability to trust to the point that it took a gem like Madhu to heal the damage.😳 Otherwise, he was permanently scarred at heart.
It would have been better for Rishabh if both parents had died so that he could mourn them than have his mother Radha🤢 - just to convince herself she remarried a wonderful man - spend 17 years believing every horrible thing Kukku and Sikki say about her own son.😭
She tells people she has never met before what a wonderful son she used to have, and how bad he is now. And yet, all the luxurious lifestyle she, her husband, his son and that son's wife all four enjoy is from her bad son's money.🤢 Radha has no shame or even basic decency. She believes her son is bad since it makes *her* feel she is a good mother.

👏 Excellent take about Radhaji's character! Very weak characterisation of a mother here. I blame CVs !
I hope RK finds the mother-figure he needs in a true mother like Padmini.😳
But Radha? If he lets her into his heart again, she'll destroy his trust again so badly that Madhu's efforts to heal his hurts might as well have been for nothing.😭

I hope CVs touch this comparision point ( between Padmini and radhaji) and it would be interesting to watch RK's point of view!

I suspect that even if Kukku were to die at any point, Radha would blame Rishabh for the rest of *his* life for never honouring such a wonderful stepfather and breaking Kukku's fatherly heart.
The betrayal Radha committed was of a parent thinking ill of their child just to think their own decision is right. Radha did it for 17 years.😡
17 years, her son has been loyal to her even in coldness and she has been disloyal to him even with her demonstrative affection.🤢 Even her death would not make condonable almost two decades of insiduous though inadvertent bad parenting.
Balraj is evil. But he doesn't scare me because I know the good guys can fight him.
But Radha scares me. She is innocent, gentle, loving. They'll never fight her, and she'll destroy them even though she would actually die to protect them.
She loves her son. But she has hurt him worse than Kukku ever could. When a newcomer in one's life talks against one's own child who has one has known all his life, how can one believe it?😕 But Radha wanted to believe she had made the right decision in choosing Kukku. So rather than doubt Kukku, she blamed Rishabh.
Being alone is not as terrible as having a loved one who loves you but always believes the worst accusations about you.
In the hospital ep, Madhu told Radha that when she promised to restore her son to her, she never thought she would actually be restoring him to life. So Madhu's promise is already completed. Radha's son was returned from death. There is no further binding in that promise in terms of serialverse - at least I hope not.😛
Just the possibility of Radha ever making inroads into her son's heart again frigging terrifies me.


I am wondering why CVs have not shown anything about RK's dad's suicide and what compelled Radhaji to marry Kuku Bhatia! May be they want to explore it when every possible track idea drains out!

👏👏 Excellent take leela!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Leela,

Re Radhaji

The CVs are never going to explore her character as that is not a plot requirement for them and she just has to be the binding material between RK and Madhu.

However as her dialogues shed light on the character she is, and since you have written on the person she is, for fodder material on her character, I would like to mention other points which we have been forced to notice time and again through her actions.

So a fodder material, lets collect these for now to chew on it...I am sure you would like it.

  • Her dialogues - always put Rishabh on bad side and as as sick person who needs to be healed.
  • Her actions, agenda - always tries to care for her son. (Only for her son). Rarely I have seen her going extra mile for anyone else's betterment than what's on her mind. She can make Madhu see RK the way she wants her DIL to see her son. She does it through her Information Bank, out of which she provides discrete information in a suspect fashion to an unsuspecting Madhu. We know how she made Madhu wear the bangles, how she asked MAdhu to forgive Rishabh, go to Siddhi Vinayak etc etc. Basically she is the mastermind behind Madhu the commander of the battle to be won.
  • Appears a doormat with constant glycerine in her eyes. Cannot say what she over-heard or what she did not. But definitely she is the family's VAULT of SECRETS.
  • She manipulates even her son with selective use of confidential information.
  • The only two persons so far who have been able to penetrate her hard skin are RK the young boy and Madhu @night after party humiliation.
  • She is good potential for turning into a grey character, if CVs plan for it in future. How ? Radhaji does not take her LOSSES very kindly. She cries hard and lashes out quite viciously. So all of this can be used for future tracks.
  • The constant glycerine right now is a torture to viewers, but it is mask, she perpetually wears before her RK son and the Bhatias. With servants and Deepali, Radhaji is shown to be quite straight in dealings befitting her as the mistress of the house.
  • A lot of her character revelation will happen when we know why Mohan Kundra killed himself.


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