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Posted: 12 years ago
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I prefer they get back togather..no doubt vineet is 100% better than pradip,but he is not a father of monas kids...At this age,mona undoubtably wants to go back to pradip and they are showing that he regreting his mistake...still i would never forgive what he did to mona...But after all, for kids sake...i would like that creatives show that they all back togather as family...

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hi Ruby
I understand what you mean. But this is very wrong concept that people follow in India. It shouldn't be the way two people decide what their future relatioship will be. if two persons don't have love and respect for each other how will they give quality life to the kids. Kids should grow up in a family where they will see parents exercising good values. However I know this is theory and in reality many women accept a life full of misery and start living with a guy whom they don't love an dtrust only for the sake of kids.
If Mona is only 30+ lady ( may be 35+) and she has to spend another minimum 30 years with a man whom she no more trusts or loves then it is a punishment for her...yes, she will breathe and live but definitely it won't be life. For the sake of kids people can't welcome a life long punishment.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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'For the sake of the children' moment was when Mona begged Pradeep not to leave the family. He left and he insulted his family to such an extend that there is no way back!

That Mona moves on with Vineet doesn't mean that Pradeep isn't the father of his children anymore and that Vineet suddenly becomes the father. Pradeep was, is and will always be the father! After marrage there is no room for Pradeep in Mona's heart (and life), but that doesn't mean that Pradeep can't be a part of his children's life. It is not the most ideal situation, but this way everyone has their share of happiness.
Sometimes it is better for kids if a mother moves on in life so that along with her they also have a better environment. I see a difference in values, respect and understanding between the Raizada family and Singh family e.g. Would Vineet's mom ever sabbotage a house to cling to her DIL? Would she use her grand children to get rid of a doosri aurat? Would Vineet's father force his DIL to re-marry or would he give her the freedom to decide what happens in her life?
It is also very important for kids to have an example of a balanced relationship between a man and a women. The kids have already seen that in their parents case Pradeep had the upper hand and I guess that will never change! Vineet and Mona have an important task to fil this void.

Pradeep regretting and Mona not forgetting/ forgiving what happened in the past is a huge baggage to carry for the rest of their lifes. Why be miserable the rest of your life and drag your children along in your misery. You can't lie to kids, because they know what is happening around them. It is also unfair to them if parents (their examples) pretend that everything is fine. You teach them to hide from problems instead of finding the solutions. If life isn't perfect then you try to make it perfect by facing reality!

Besides, how involved was Pradeep regarding his kids when Mona and he were together? The children aren't that emotionally connected to Pradeep. The kids are young and it is not that difficult for them to adjust to their new situation (provided they get all the time, attention and care they need)

Mona should stop being submissive. There is a beautiful life waiting for her and her kids with open arms 😉

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Posted: 12 years ago
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may be i am wrong. But the way they are showing mona, she dont love vineet at all. she still love her husband,dont matter what he did in past. and yes, it is going on in India, but i believe that is the only reason indian culture has long lasting relations. People make mistakes in their life, it doesnt mean you give up on them and move on with someone else. If mona had made the same mistake pradip did, I would say the same thing specially when the person who made mistake realize their fault...If we do the same like western people do here, then there is no differance between us,they leave their kids suffer for their own happiness...two to five kids from all different father or mother...and who knows vineet is really good now(like pradip was before anu), but in future they may have differances too...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Okay. I understand where you are coming from, but your post raises a few questions in my mind.

Originally posted by: ruby2000

it is going on in India, but i believe that is the only reason indian culture has long lasting relations. People make mistakes in their life, it doesnt mean you give up on them and move on with someone else. If mona had made the same mistake pradip did, I would say the same thing specially when the person who made mistake realize their fault...[/quote]

Mona wasn't ready to give up on Pradeep. Even after knowing that Pradeep has been cheating on her with his boss for six months. She was ready to take him back knowing that he missed very special occasions in his children's life because he refused to take time off from his work (read: Anushka Sarkar). Mona was willing to forget every insult while Pradeep compared her with another woman. Pradeep is the one who repeatedly said that he wants a life with Anushka and he did what he said. He lived with her for 6 months. The last nail in the coffin was that Pradeep not only filled for divorce, but also signed those papers. Mona isn't the one who gave up, but Pradeep did. He moved on with his life 1 year ago! So what do you plead? That while Pradeep moved on Mona should wait for the day Pradeep sees his "mistake" and returns?

How do you define a mistake? To me Pradeep's actions aren't mistakes but sins (paap)! To make things worse he was aware of his sins and he still continued. I think and feel he ruthlessly broke each promiss of their marriage (saat phere).

Does Pradeep realises his "mistake"? Someone who realises his fault atleast takes responsibilty for his actions. I don't know how exactly, but may be a start is for example by admitting the grieve he caused his family (Mona and kids) and saying that it is nobody's but his fault. That he is sincerly apologizing for all of his horendous actions. Has Pradeep done that? No! Up to now he only feels sorry for himself. Instead of truely repenting for his sins Pradeep is all dazzled by Mona's mahaanta and disgusted by Anushka's betrayal. In Pradeep's own words he was seduced by Anushka into a relationship. Poor thing! After 1 night in a dirty jail and Mona lying for him to save him from murder charges he realises that Anushka is dirt who he (after 1 year) has thrown out of his life. How convienient! Telling Mona that all his desires were an illusion and asking her if it is possible to start again where they had left is not realising his "mistakes". It is another insult on Mona's part. It is an easy way out of the mess he created and is fed up with. Saying sorry to his mummy & papa and going back to his so called roots is not at all realising his "mistakes", but saving his damn A$$~!



There are differences between the west and us and those are fine, but may be they aren't as big as we think they are?. May be a certain approach of the west towards relationships is better then ours? May be their approach is more women friendly and more based on equality?
In context of KHTV Pradeep left his kids to suffer for his own happiness, didn't he? Can I say that in this situation there isn't a difference with the west? Just to be sure are there different rules for Indian women??

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Posted: 12 years ago
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if mona goes back to pradeep,wt lesson is she giving to her daughters?even if ur partner cheats u,breaks all the promise,makes u suffer,treat u like dirt,u must wait for him n wn he comes back,u must accept him???wt message is this giving to the society???
is re-marriage a sin?
v hv already discussed this in another topic,i guess,on sept.
the theme of re-marriage is impt n hw cvs r going to show is the point.they hv made the main theme of extra-marital affair as a big joke.so expect the worse frm them.for them plot is nt the soul,only character matters,that too the leads.they can't see anything beyond the lead.it is fixed,so to a certain extend they r innocent.
which woman ,a middle class woman, in real life will accept a husband like pradeep back even for the sake of family?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i am not a 12 year old and I am that old and mature that i dont feel bad at all specially its not from the one I know or from I care...but may be you are not a married yet or married with no kids...not a mother...I was looking all this as a mother , not as a woman who need or wants her own happiness only...and you are right with your own opinion...no need anymore explanations...everyone has right to give their own view of thinking...😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: rtms

if mona goes back to pradeep,wt lesson is she giving to her daughters?even if ur partner cheats u,breaks all the promise,makes u suffer,treat u like dirt,u must wait for him n wn he comes back,u must accept him???wt message is this giving to the society???

is re-marriage a sin?
v hv already discussed this in another topic,i guess,on sept.
the theme of re-marriage is impt n hw cvs r going to show is the point.they hv made the main theme of extra-marital affair as a big joke.so expect the worse frm them.for them plot is nt the soul,only character matters,that too the leads.they can't see anything beyond the lead.it is fixed,so to a certain extend they r innocent.
which woman ,a middle class woman, in real life will accept a husband like pradeep back even for the sake of family?



I think the situation is different here. For starters MOna doesn't love Vineet and she honored her FIL's wish by saying yes to Vineet.
Secondly, she had devoted herself completely to her husband and still LOVES him..so its not like she is bound by any social rules or somebody is stopping her from remarrying...

SO its MOna's choice ...whatever she wants..whatever makes her happy😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I would never want any woman to go back to a husband like pradeep because none of them would ever be happy after what he did...but mona is different...mona has no self respect...she will allow pradeep to use and abuse her and will still worship the ground he walks on so she can go back to him because they deserve each other...I feel bad for the kids though because what kind of values are they learning from their parents...their son will learn to never respect a woman and always treat them like crap...their daughters will learn to always let a man disrespect them and cheat on them...wow what amazing values...

on the other hand if pradeep really did regret what he did to mona then first he would break up with anu...even when he was getting tips from his mom to win back mona he was still living with anushka and sleeping with her...the only reason he is not into anu anymore is because he is in trouble...men like pradeep will use u when they need you and discard you when their need is done...

now on to the general aspect of it...no woman other than one with no dignity or self respect like mona will get over something like this...pradeep not only cheated but he also lived with the girl, slapped mona and humiliated her...left his own kids so he could be with anu...why should the woman always sacrifice when pradeep did not care when he broke his own family...i am sorry but i doubt any kids will ever want their parents to be together and miserable like this...

also the kids only want mona and pradeep together now is because they are being brainwashed that they will get separated once their parents get remarried...once they do move on and realize that their parents will be their parents and always love them they will be happier...

I dont know about others but i love my parents and would always want them to be happy and not miserable...I would expect my mom to stand up for herself and never let my father treat her the way pradeep treated mona and i am sure this is same for majority of kids out there...this is something that their kids will also learn as they grow older...

who cares if there is no difference between east and west...what is the point of acting like you are happy and devoted wife when in reality you are miserable...

Pradeep wants a wife (mona) to care for his kids and his home but he also wants a girlfriend (anu) to keep him satisfied at the same time...he is not going to change because mona cannot turn into anu...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Is it only Mona's job to think about the family? Did Pradeep think about his family when he was ready to leave Mona and the kids and move in with Anu? NO!!! Why is the onus always on the woman to make "adjustments"? And that too after repeated humiliations?

Pradeep is not sorry for what he did. His repentance is a matter of convenience. Now that he realised that his high-class girlfriend can't wait on him hand and foot like his dutiful wife, he starts missing Mona and her sanskaars.

And sorry if i offend any sentiments here, but if THIS is "Indian culture", it's high time we changed it. No "culture" in the world is more important that the dignity of an individual.

Why are we so judgmental about the West, anyway? How are we so sure they aren't living healthier lives than us? In the US, for example, kids may not grow up with their real parents but they learn to be independent early in life, while many Indian kids who are pampered by both parents in a patriarchal set-up grow up to be spoiled brats!


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