Oh dear.......I have stepped into a mine field π
OK, my take, err, even at the risk of being politically incorrect is different.
Whether you really need to spank a child depends entirely upon the child. Beleive me, that is something I learnt on a personal basis.
I do think we had done this topic somewhere before too...
Anyway, I have two kids, both boys. Both are as different as chalk and cheese. My older is almost 7 and younger 3 1/2. My older son was so terribly naughty, that I was practically boycotted by the moms who had kids of the same age. He was aggressive, hyper, and dominating. Yet he was never ever mean, just that he was too forceful. And the only thing he even remotedly understood as a language of discipline was spanking. No amount of eye to eye, setting rules, time outs or grounding could help. He is one child who can be very happy in his own company, and hence, being let alone hardly ever bothered him..... When I was pregnant the second time around, I was actually advised by my friends not to go for it, as they felt it would be impossible for me to handle two like them......
My younger one was as quite and gentle as an angel. It is not that he never gets into mischief, or never does anything wrong. But I have never had to lay a finger on him. With him eye to eye, and 'bad boy' or time outs work fine. However, recently I had to spank him, and for the first time. I had been trying to potty train him for 6 months now, and no amount of 'good boy' and 'bad boy' was working. And then he started going around in completely soiled pants and not tell me because I would make him wash and call him a bad boy or give him time out and stuff, so he would go and hide. So one day, I calmly took him, cleaned him, and then spanked him - hard. It's been about 10 days now.He has not soiled his pants, and he has even learned to pee the way his elder brother does...... π standing !!!! π π π And suddenly, my 'good boy' means the world to him..... π.just one day of careful calm spanking......
As a child, I had my share of spanking, as I was indeed extremely naughty, and now that I think back, at times even a nightmare π whereas my sister is the calmest person one could come across. I doubt she even ever got screamed at.....a fact I resented greatly, only to find it getting repeated with my own boys.... π
So now I make it a point never to scold any one child for anything they are into together. But with time, my elder child has quitened down and I don't even have to raise my voice at him anymore. he is of an age when he has started to understand, so it's not required. And I have a reason to beleive that my younger one is growing to grow much more naughty as days go by, more than my elder one, though in different way.....so I don't know what kind of approach I would need to handle that.
I beleive that as parents, the best appraoch is to see what works best. Hitting a child to vent out frustration, or simply to bully them to do unreasonable things is what I would term as abuse. However,all the parents that I talk to, whether American or ndian or Chinese, all of them have had to resort to spanking at one point or the other. our neighbour has two daughters and a son. her first born - a daughter - and her thrid born, a son, are as cool as a cucumber. but her second child, a daughter, is a nightmare. At 8, she is the biggest bully you could meet and acts way over her age. And her mom is completely at loss. Her other children are so well behaved and nice that it's hard to beleive, and surprisingly, she has never ever used force of any kind on any of them. But she looses it when it comes to dealing with her second one......and ultimately, it seems her husband looses it too and it's him who spanks her.
Irony ?? he is the police.........
So, I beleive it's gets easy to be judgemental when it comes to others, but as parents, they are the experts and perhaps they do need to use it get something across to the child. My friend was a big one on no abuse and never spanked her daughter. I at times felt a kind of disapproval and slight trace of smugness which said - hey I think you can't handle your son - until she had her second daughter. Suffice to say, she respects my plight more than she did before...... π
Today teens in US are far worse than they were 20 years back. They are ill behaved, and seldom respect authority. Sure there are tons of kids who are very very nice, but the number of disrespectful ones has grown sharply over the years. I beleive that to some extent fear and respect are kind of interviened. Here I am not talking of fear as in abuse, but fear as in respect of authority. And to lay down that authority, sometimes, spanking is necessary.
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