Does Kushi love ASR as a wife loves her hubby?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Now folks don't jump down my throat. I know Kushi risked her life to save his life, kept mum bt the contract marriage, waited at the mandap having full confidence in him etc etc but what i mean is does Kushi really love ASR as a wife, as a lover. When i use the word LOVE i mean the love a woman has for a man.

Don't get me wrong. LOVE is an all embracing word whose meaning differs based on the context & the individuals involved. This is coz there r different kinds of love. The all-giving love that u ve for ur family like Kushi towards the GUPTAs, the obsessive love that some moms ve over their kids or in a strange role reversal here in the case of ASR & weepy willow, the warm love like Kushi's towards the Raizadas etc etc.

But there is 1 very unique kind of love. The love, desire, passion, lust, sense of belonging that a man has for a woman & vice versa. Some how i feel that Kushi has still not reached that level. In her case she 1st fell in love with the family of the guy, then slowly started warming towards him & just when the girl was on the throes of morphing from a chirpy girl to a sensuous woman the contract marriage happened & bang we were back to square 1. But now after the kidnapping, her valiant effort to rescue him, their confession of love, SHYAMLI drama etc where are we when it comes to the all important ARHI equation. Unfortunately again back to square 1.

I ve seen her warm compassion towards him, her tears for him, her anxiety for him but her desire for him. NEVER. Please don't get me wrong but DESIRE is the main part of LOVE. That thirst to be with each other, possess each other, steal moments together, make love to each other, the silly fights & the passionate making up post fight. Is this not what makes a man-woman relationship unique, interesting, spicy & delicious.

So while we see all this from ASR why r the CVs still not showing this kind of thoughts from KKG. I mean this was the girl who almost succumbed to his kiss on Diwali even when he was at that time in a live-in with LA.

Makes me wonder if they indeed had sex in the farmhouse. This is not how a woman reacts after having experienced physical intimacy with a man. That coy look, blush, naughty smile, excuse to be with each other, touch each other in other words all the normal things which a couple in love would do is missing here.

While i can feel the desire & love of ASR from Kushi all i get r cold vibes. Her love seems too platonic to me. Every time she hugs & manaofies Arnav be it post shyam slap gate or in the hosp after the miscarriage all looks more what a best friend & sister would do. Not what a lover would do. come on v r talking bt the girl who even saved that loser shyam frm a speeding truck & who was willing 2 give him a 2ns chance. so by nature she is soft, kind, helping, forgiving & loving. But that extra zing that is required to differentiate a woman's love for her man frm the rest of the kind of love that she may shower on other ppl in her life is currently missing in Kushi.

I still cant see that special look in her eyes for Arnav. Is it coz in indian serials its considered a sin to show the woman desiring a man & ve sexual urges? Is it just poor screenplay?

Some1 had pointed out that even v neglect our spouse when v r drooling over Barun. Valid point but i am 33 now having been married for 9 yrs. I wouldn't ve pushed my hubby just 1 week aft marriage. At that time couples ll ve eyes only for each other.

Another argument is ASR loves the way Kushi is with her ajeeb sanak & hence she continues to be a child. I disagree! Childish pranks & antics ll always come down over a period of time & also no matter how much v may justify every person has to mature as age progresses. For a girl thats y its said that the maturity comes automatically after physical intimacy with a man & after child birth. No matter how innocent & childish u may ve been after these 2 milestones in ur life a girl is no longer a girl but a full fledged woman. Her awareness of her man, his proximity, his advances all increases & the couple ve a heightened sense of awareness. For eg if u take married couples each 1 ll automatically know when the other person is aroused or turned on. You may or may not want it but u ll definitely b aware of their feeling & arousal. So i find it strange that KKG still doesn't ve that heightened sense of awareness.

Hence i feel that she loves him as a friend, companion but as a lover not really.

Pl do pour in thoughts without bashing or fighting!

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Have rephrased the title since a few ppl found it negative 😕
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mayukatta thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
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well... valid point.. but cant speak much on this...
but in the farm house.. the way she kissed arnav shows some thing...
i dont know😳
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mayukatta

well... valid point.. but cant speak much on this...

but in the farm house.. the way she kissed arnav shows some thing...
i dont know😳



But if u c its always initiated by Arnav not Kushi. I never find her look at him in THAT way. its always Arnav who makes an advance & she either shies away or reciprocates. i ve never seen her touch Arnav without any reason. yeah she touches him to reassure him or calm him but never lovingly the way Arnav touches her.

And reg that kiss in the farmhouse, thats exactly wat i am trying 2 point out. Why is there no change in her demeanor post farmhouse. Initially i thought its coz the cvs wanted 2 keep us guessing on the consummation. But y this non-reaction even now?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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sorry i am disagree
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Again 2 clarify i am not claiming that Kushi doesn't love ASR. All i am saying that this love is different from the man-woman LOVE.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Khushi does love ASR...But as we have discussed it already...hers is the most flexible character in IPK...One day we see her as some real mature woman..the next day she resorts to some OTT stuff to irritate her husband...

Khushi is a child woman...who always mistook her feelings for acidity and dhak-dhak..If ASR was an ecapist..Khushi too is...one who for a long time preferred to run away from her desires and feelings...that does NOT mean she loves him any less...But anything in her life is a little Jhalli..So her antics at times seem a little loud and make you feel whether she loves him!!

Yes..it is true...we want to see Khushi desiring ASR the same way he does...We want to see the woman in her rise time and again..the one we saw on the Diwali night..or the farmhouse recently...She loves him...But there's a certain coldness in her behavior...that's mainly because she is still a child at heart and can't always decide upon the necessities of a conjugal life..For her taking care of her husband and his family...his medicines...his diabetes...cooking..washing clothes seem to be of utmost importance..Her priorities are rarely seen..She herself does not exercise her rights..

But even in the midst of all these...We have seen how she is awakened by desires..Haldi...Mehndi...Farmhouse..Diwali..Teri-Meri...Poolside Kiss..and the list goes on!!

Actually the writing has taken a nose dive..if you see!!There's nothing wrong in a woman desiring her husband...and SP/CV's need to realize that..Marriage is not just about cooking/washing clothes..there are other needs too...to make a marriage work!!

Edited by sampin - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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your question is does khushi love asr & yes she loves him more than herself ...& question

about the physical intemacy ,during t diwali almost kiss , t hut scene etc she did shy away but she never said no to him ...she may not be romantic but she loves him to the core...during t almost suhag raat she said no to him bcouse for her rituals were more imp than love .. ...but what we saw in the farm house was apt with t line " love s blind " she did share physical intimacy with him forgetting her strong belief 4 rituals ...she did submit herself to him ... after marriage thecircumstances were such that they were not able to make love with each otr ...

now khushi is on the top of the world bcouse of how arnav is treating her ,caressing her & all these is making sankadevi more sanki..

During the mu phase also what we saw was khushi was not crying over her faith or acting as a mature woman she was doing her child antics khushi was always presented as a child woman only ...t yes khushi is not at all behaving as a mature woman ..i think we will see that side of khushi in near future


Edited by Meghipk - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Arnav's life is Khushi's #1 priority, over her own life...she has proved that multiple times. Her intentions are always to do anything to make him and his family happy, even at the cost of her own happiness. Just because she may not respond to his romantic advances all the time doesn't make me question her love. It just tells me she is clueless when it comes to romance.

His #1 priority is his sister though...he treats her pain with sensitivity while he treats Khushi's pain as a joke, never with the same sensitivity or feelings. Sometimes, I think he "loves" her only for the romance part...and that's enough for the fangirls I guess.
Edited by AyeReKhushi - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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You raise very valid issues, Angel. Is Khushi's love for Arnav really only platonic and not a lover's love? Certainly her hugs are completely non-sexual in nature, even though, in my opinion, she is the best hugger in the world😃. No one puts in more heart in a hug than our dear Sanka Devi, but the emotion driving the hugs is usually relief, affection, fear, grief...rarely, if ever, sexual passion (notable exception, farmhouse).
To your questoin I think there are two explanations: sensibilities and Khushi's nautankiness (for lack of a better word).
Khushi's character is essentially this loud, brash, social girl who does not ever shy away from voicing her opinions, very comfortable in her own skin, very sure of her values and language, always wanting the upper hand in situations, and never far from a nautanki. Be it the latest theater entry fiasco, or the pretend marriage scam in that dhaba in Nainital, she lives her life in the public sphere...very little in her life is really private. If she has a tiff with her husband, she will not hesitate in involving Nani and Anjali, or maybe even NK and Akash in making him see the "error of his ways" Or, if they are going out for an outing, then she invites the entire RM in an heartbeat.
When it comes to sexual passion, or the good old-fashioned lust, I think she has healthy dose of those feelings as well. I disagree with your assessment that she gives "cold vibes" Recall the "humein laga humari saansein hi ruk gayeen" scene the morning after pearl necklace inspired hug. Or her distraction when Arnav torments her about their impending suhaagraat on Janmashtami. Those feelings are very much there...just that they unsettle her a lot and probably that is why she likes to run away from them. That is where she is on shaky grounds, and none of her usual coping mechanisms are available to her to handle them. She is completely at his mercy.She cannot resort to her usual nautankiness and best him ...so she shies away from voluntarily creating those situations. Except until, her jealous avatar is aroused...again the farm house night. Give her time...I suspect once they have done it often enough, she will start to initiate action as well...well in some small measure, at least. 😃
Now to the matter of sensibilities. We, and here I am specifically referring to the "international" 😉audience, are so used to English shows where kissing and making out, and talking about making out, is so normal as to be completely unnoteworthy. If there is a romantic relationship between characters in a show, it is natural that they will be shown kissing and more. That is the sensibility that we are used to. Hindi TV is different, with very different set of audience segments, and very different ideas about what constitutes a "good girl and wife". So while the audience laps it up when she does the semi-comedic seduction dance at the farm house, because she thought she was fighting to get her husband back from the clutches of the other woman, I think the sequence would have garnered a lot of flak if it had been just a normal course of events...that is to say, if Khushi seduced her husband every night in this fashion 😆 (I guess her husband would not have complained😉...nor would we.)
In closing, I would just like to say that Khushi and her Laad Govennar are a pair...totally into each other...and completely in love. She loves him as a wife, a lover, a soul mate, a friend. They have only recently overcome humungous hurdles, like the MU, forced wedding, kidnapping, Shyam, Dadi and the past, to be finally together as husband and wife. Now Khushi is learning to live like his wife...learning other aspects of his life, his likes and dislikes and trying to wade through it all in her inimitable, sanka fashion. Give her time to exhibit the physical side of her love.
Edited by Vistaa - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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A very good question. A similar (healthy) discussion happened on the following thread a few days back:

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/iss-pyaar-ko-kya-naam-doon/3237210/khushi-some-thoughts

On hindsight and sightly diverting from the story, I think the main reason for such a confusing portrayal is the way society views sex. Even in the 21st century India, sex is viewed something akin to committing a sin, loosing to your desires, tampering with your pure soul.


Pure and lively soul is the USP of Khushi. Many girls and woman resonate with her character and admire her.


If we go by the society expectations, then after having sex, she will lose all the qualities that make her "pure" and "angelic". What we see now, is a sad attempt at letting Khushi retain the child-like innocence, be the ideal bahu, the regular stand up comedian and a caring, loving but non-sexual wife. Because, what will the world come to , if girls really WANT to have sex with their husbands! God forbid!


Another thing I noticed is that there is a pattern in the IPK show when it comes to tracks. It is like someone has a fixed formula for maintaining the TRPs in SP. I cannot say for sure, as I do not watch any other Indian drama.

Fight - Awareness - Romance - Problem - Drama - Revelation - Comedy - Fight

It is a vicious circle. I do not know if this is deliberate or just the way the writer's mind works (He is a guy after all...). May be he finds writing Arnav easier than Khushi.


They seem to be trying to fit the story to suit pre determined moods rather than letting the story set the mood for the track. The end result of such an organised attempt to write a story is that people like me cannot relate to Khushi at all as there is no logic in the transition of her emotions and her reactions seem far too unrealistic to be true.


One can't claim it to be the by-product of her so called "sanak" everytime. I really liked the Khushi who was lost in her awareness to Arnav during Diwali,questioned him about the almost kiss and her confusion , was enchanted by him during his akhada workout, because that is how real girls would react! Once you realise that you view a guy like a man, you cannot go back! Can some one tell this to the writers of the show please!



Edited by -sanika- - 13 years ago

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