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Posted: 12 years ago
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Over the last couple of weeks we learnt RK Didn't believe in God. Then later Madhu uncovered that he is no true aethist.
Madhu promised Radha that RK will return back to God. And we all see he does.
What I wanted for this debate, pls choose one side either - RK or Madhu and state whether Madhu is responsible in bringing RK to God - or Is it his self realisation that brought him back?
No argument and no fights please..
Cari.. xx
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Posted: 12 years ago
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My argument would be for RK... I believe his self realisation brought him back, because she had the faith in him. He wasn't taught abt the religion or right and wrong and was fully aware of it himself.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Good healthy debate... in for it 😊

Well to be really very frank... i guess its both of them...

At times when someone is so very much hurt as much as RK was for his faith in Bappa and realizing that his very friend was not by his side in times of his trouble, he starts shutting himself from that person or thing (in this case it was Bappa for RK) ... And as we already saw he was in total denial that he still harbored any feelings for his friend his Bappa here...

At such times you just need a nudge or a push to get you out of that phase of denial... You need someone to be point blank and tell you things you don't wish to hear... Like his apprehensions when he saw the jyot being put off and tried covering it or his act of the veg seekh kabab... He just has to be shown a mirror to his true feelings and thats what Madhu did ... She just made him realize that how much ever hard he tries he can never separate himself out or away from Bappa... That what has triggered RK's thoughts again to come out of the denial state that he lived in... His confrontation with Bappa's murti very much proves that what he is so hurt about and why he was so hurt... what he expected out of his Bappa and why he was so disappointed...

But yes coming out of that phase... its his own thought... his own beliefs and his own realization about his faith in the divine deity

So as much as Madhu is responsible for the nudge or the push to RK... its RK's own beleifs that helps him here...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I thnk RK has always believed in God... he never showed it to people since his father died...bt faith ws always dere in him..so its his self realization dat brought him back to Ganesha
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Posted: 12 years ago
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It is self realization of Rk but by the efforts of Madhu. She made him realize very tactfully. She dint forced him much 2 take part in all rituals as well as she came 2 him after every ritual is done 2 influence him. Why dint Rk realized it since last 17 yrs. & suddenly nw realized it. bcz he actly needed sum1 dat he nw got as madhu. I jst want 2 say dat it is self realization of Rk himself but by the influence of madhu.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Very interesting topic i must say...it was because of madhu's effort that rk realised that he still has bappa in his heart...all these years he would never come out of his house during these ten days ...it was only when madhu bought the ganpati idol home that he realised that he still had some faith in bappa..and in this tense moment he confessed every complain he had with bappa and couldn't share with anyone else for this long...also madhu's devotion encouraged him somehow too...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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yes i do believe that RK has faith but after the death of his father he was hurted so never shows his believe and faith on god its only his dissatisfication on god but in the heart we saw that how he is fighting with bapa and how he shown his angerness on front of him but this credit goes to madhu she bring bapa at home and RK got a chance to talk to bapa and shows his angrness he relised his all angrness and ready to recollect hisself. its human nature when we are angry on others we want to shout on them when we realised our pain we feel better. so, when rk saw bapa he shouted on him all his complains come out from heart. and its very good that rushab is coming out from rk.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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for me its from both... Madhu's efforts to make him face to face with Bappa and RK's self realization too 😊 i so agree with Abhaylovepia that when we are angry, we want to shout on person and after lettingout all the frustration we feel calm n better... 😊
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Posted: 12 years ago
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It is RK. But Madhu provided the settings... if not, why did not this sel-realization take place all these years??? She was the catalyst!!!!

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