Jagya- Repentance and Revenge

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Jagya. I will prefer to call him Jagya. Whenever I think of this character I am always amazed how this young boy ultimately turned out to be Jagat as we know him now. No one changes so much unless there is a compelling reason to do so. What could be the reason in Jagya's case?

He was born and brought up in a small village. His whole world constituted of his home and his family. He had a child bride,Anandi to whom he was very close,more as a friend than any thing else. His young bride always used to say,"teri bindhni hun main" but, neither of them really understood what it means and the enormous responsibility it carries. Life was a roller coaster ride for both of them. Devoid of any seriousness, having a doting family,he had everything that he could wish for and also things beyond his wish. He had a Dadisa who would go to any length to protect her grandson.

Jagya grew up. Since desire had no boundaries and wants were never denied he decided to pursue a career of a physician. That needed he had to move to a bigger city. So he went to Mumbai.

There he came across a life so very different that he never knew such a life ever existed and never knew girls can be like this. So far his idea regarding girls was confined to Anandi,his child bride. That there can be girls who are a total contrast to Anandi was surprising and at the same time exciting for him. It was a completely different world for him. At an impressionable age, when everything that glitters has a temptation for young minds, he fell for a classmate Gauri and married her without annulling the first one. This led to a lot of confrontations with the family members especially with the father. Undeterred Jagya went ahead with this marriage without thinking twice about the consequences.

This marriage brought about sea changes in his life and soon slowly bitterness grew between him and Gauri. A lot many things were discovered and they started accusing each other for messing their lives. In the meanwhile Jagya had already got his divorce from Anandi. Realization dawned on him that he had made a blunder and all along whatever his parents used say about this marriage were indeed true.

So after dumping Gauri,he decided that he needs to seek forgiveness from all for all his misdemeanor. But, in his pursuance of success and the stubbornness to lead a life of his choice, he had upset a lot many people in the wake. Forgiveness was not easy to come by and he was stunned that he was not even welcome in his home any more.

Repentant Jagya failed to convince any one. Though he tried his best and even after being thrown out, stuck to his pleads. There was one scene where he was drinking in the bar and murmured something like"aaj tu sachmuch margaya Jagya" ,where I found ,even for those few seconds that he was truly repenting. It is said that a child and a drunkard will always speak the truth and that exactly what happened in his case. Pardon did not come his way because his sins far outweighed his pleas.

Now he holds Anandi for his misfortune. He believes it was Anandi who ruined his chances of getting a pardon. It is also not acceptable to him that Anandi decided to move ahead in her life,leaving him behind. "Teri bindhini hun main" is some one else's betrothed. And that some one else is his bte' noir.

Why things went wrong for Jagya?He had all the qualities in him to be an excellent doctor. But, he did not pursue his studies. He had everything going right for him, when he chose to destroy them with his own hands. He was confident that his decisions can never go wrong,but,in fact they all went horribly wrong. It all happened because he was supremely confident of himself and he believed together he and Gauri can lead a life if peace and content and they do not require any one else in it. Things did not turn out as he wished.

Now he wants pardon. He does not get it. So decides on revenge. An MBBS doctor ,if he decides to take revenge what options does he have with him? Any mind bent upon taking revenge needs to be a cool mind. Only a cool mind can think,plan and plot effectively. A raving and ranting mind cannot. It can only dream of,but cannot take steps towards it. As of now, he is sticking to Jaitser. He is portrayed as a thief,stealing food from a house which itself has very little to offer. He is shown sitting in a temple for the Prasad. An MBBS doctor is never so helpless.

He now wants to drive a wedge between Shiv and Anandi. How he plans to do that only time will tell. But, this can only take him down the drain. Jagya ,as I know him is selfish,stubborn,cheat,liar and inherently weak,but, he was never a villain . This is something akin to his character and surely makes me sad that an otherwise brilliant character so strongly portrayed by Shashank died an ignominious death and a pure baddie was born in his place. Why this sudden idea of revenge? The reason could be as I see it,things that he thought were within his grasp,slipped through his fingers as he watched helplessly. Anger and frustration can drive people mad and they lose all sense of good and bad. So despite being penniless he had to stick to Jaitser as his desire for revenge was so overwhelmingly strong than any thing else.

Highly educated, he is into a profession which itself is self sustaining. Why was he shown in this way? Does it mean that a person is helpless if he is shunned by his family and friends no matter how highly educated he is? That is highly unlikely.

This is something we call divine justice. In this world ,what you give ultimately comes back to you. Here education, social status, power mean nothing. When providence comes calling the king and the pauper are the same.

Does that mean everything is lost for Jagya? That he can never be redeemed?I do not think so. Every one gets chance,not once,not twice but,several times. He could have put a break on his sliding life and turn the tide. He had that chance,when Gauri insisted that he completes his MS. He did not take it. He had a chance when Dr.Naik offered a job, he did not take it. A successful doctor working for the society would have lessened his guilty feeling and his good deeds would have sooner or later reached his parents. Good name and praise always bring about a softening of stand of parents with respect to their children. And getting a pardon in the long run would not have been difficult. But,he did not choose this path. He chose a path which is self destructive and in the desire for getting even with his enemies he seems to be going down really fast. He requires a helping hand to make him understand where his faults lie,what he needs to do and how to go about it. It could be Lal Singh,it could be Dadisa,it could be Anandi,and I will not be surprised if it is indeed Bhairon. But, whosever it is going to be, this is not going to happen any time soon.

NOTE:I have deliberately not talked much about Gauri and her faults,because I want this to only address Jagya's character.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sukanya - I agree with most of what you have said.

Except in one aspect. I don't believe that Jagya was compelled to turn into Jagat.Jagat always existed in him.It is that aspect of Jagya who was before his beendini came into his life.He is weak willed,spoilt,easily swayed lacking in self confidence and feeling of entitlement.

His continued association with A brought out the positive points like being caring and considerate,standing up for what is right.This Jagya is Anandi's Jagya.He was also the happiest and most contented Jagya
The weaker aspect of Jagya comes out when ever there is no proper guidance to him and when things go wrong in life.He always needed someone guide him and advise him.


Realisation part - I think there is some realisation on his part and he thinks that he just needs to be the old Jagya - Anandi's Jagya to make amends to his family.
He also thinks that to be that Jagya he needs to be with his family - I think this is where all his need forgiveness comes in.
The day he realises that he doesn't need to be with his family or Anandi to be that Jagya he wanted to be he would have redeemed himself.

As for the redemption - I do agree that has let go of so many opportunities that came his way which would have helped him redeem himself.But the thing is he requires a very big jolt in life to get onto the path of redemption.

In his childhood it was the bullet injury to Anandi that gave him a big jolt that is needed to bring him into the straight and narrow path.Now I don't know from where or how he is going to get that big jolt.Till that happens he will slide deeper and deeper into that pit he has fallen in causing a great deal of damage to himself and all those who cares for him.

Although I have no problems with the story that is being told I do not like the way they are telling it.
I do understand that they have to show him sinking into depths unknown and loosing all his ability to think and act I wish they have chosen a better way to tell this current part of the story.



Edited by aparnauma - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sukanya.,

Ofcourse he can be redeemed ( would like to use this word., though I cannot u/stand the true meaning 😆)., but I feel his redemption cannot be linked to the forgiveness from neither A nor his family.
If he is thinking that their forgiveness is the first step to his redemption., he is wrong.
If he is truly repenting his mistakes., let him rise and become a good humanbeing...stand on his feet and carve out a place for himself...he has education behind him which he can put to full use.
Let him prove that he is TRULY repenting...EARN that forgiveness.
This will automatically soften his family's stand towards him.
To an extent., agree he needs a guiding force...BUT I still feel, the force would have generated automatically from self., if he wants to correct his mistakes.
If DS., or BS or A become this guiding force., he would go back to square one., as he will be delighted to think that they are doing this for him., since they have forgiven him...Isn't it...and it will be a fact also...
LS being the force...I cannot really comment...he may be ...may not be...Depends if LS is indeed thinking on same terms or not...But yes., J can utilise him., if he wants to listen to him., keeping aside his ego.
But as per me., He needs to be a SELF MADE MAN to truly redeem.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Wonderful post mocking_bird. Very well analysed
and articulated. This is exactly what I had in mind but did not say it so well like you did. J's faults are not out of the ordinary. If one looks at youngsters, you will find lot of Jagias. In his case he is thrown into a situation of clash of cultures. Village culture VS city.at an impressionable age it was beyond him to handle this. He needs to be guided. Unfortunately His father is not well quipped to do that. Anger gets the better of him. B could still show his son Jagia his place while guiding him. It really shows how parents lack their parenting skills.
One could argue not every one makes mistakes like J. But people are different at different times and experiences. Some times kids who were bad at teenage turn out to be excellent human beings later. And the other way too.

Thanks for this wonderful post.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Jan50.yes,it is very true when you say that there are a lot of Jagias in the society. I remember ,when Jagya was planning to get married,there was a tv street interview where in the interviewer was asking teenagers if Jagya's decision is correct. And I saw a lot many agreed to it that it is Jagya's life and if he finds some one better then he has every right to go ahead with his decision. They were not bothered about what happens to Anandi. How come such thought process develop in the young minds? Who is responsible and why is marriage no longer a life long commitment for these guys? I have never found an answer to these questions. So even if what Jagya did to Anandi was indeed wrong,it is not one of a kind. Given a chance,probably, a lot many youngsters will do that.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@adi2512
I feel though Jagya knows he had made mistakes,he does not know what he needs to do now to get the pardon. Probably,he thought,being the ladesar, he will get the pardon once he apologises. He knew he enjoyed a soft corner with Dadisa so he had also planned to approach her first. Once Dadisa forgives him,it will not be difficult to influence others,was his take.In his wildest dreams he would not have thought that he will not be pardoned and instead be pushed out from the haveli.
When we go on a mission like this,there should be two options with us.

1. it is good if I get what i have come for,without much effort.
2.If I do not get it despite best efforts,what next?

Jagya never planned for the 2nd option. That is because he never thought things can also happen in a different way. His pain and frustration arise mainly from this.

Now he is clueless what he should do next. I do not think he has any thinking capability left within him to guide in the right direction. He does not understand that he has to earn the forgiveness. This is what I want him to learn from some body else. Some one who can help him understand where his problems lie and how to address it. Left alone, he can only curse Anandi and hold every one else responsible for misfortune. Every one except himself.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: mocking_bird

@adi2512

I feel though Jagya knows he had made mistakes,he does not know what he needs to do now to get the pardon. Probably,he thought,being the ladesar, he will get the pardon once he apologises. He knew he enjoyed a soft corner with Dadisa so he had also planned to approach her first. Once Dadisa forgives him,it will not be difficult to influence others,was his take.In his wildest dreams he would not have thought that he will not be pardoned and instead be pushed out from the haveli.
When we go on a mission like this,there should be two options with us.

1. it is good if I get what i have come for,without much effort.
2.If I do not get it despite best efforts,what next?

Jagya never planned for the 2nd option. That is because he never thought things can also happen in a different way. His pain and frustration arise mainly from this.

Now he is clueless what he should do next. I do not think he has any thinking capability left within him to guide in the right direction. He does not understand that he has to earn the forgiveness. This is what I want him to learn from some body else. Some one who can help him understand where his problems lie and how to address it. Left alone, he can only curse Anandi and hold every one else responsible for misfortune. Every one except himself.

Sukanya.,
Exactly this is what it is in bold.
A few days back while we were discussing on J in this forum, i got to quote an article i came across in DC on the psyches of a winner and a loser.
A winner always goes with a plan B considering if his plan A fails...he can go as per plan B...
A loser has already won in his mind with a plan , and does not foresee the consequences of defeat.
This is what exactly J has done...He was already so confident that e/body will forgive him., the moment he asks / pleads for it...and never bothered to think what if not ?
He had already won his case in his mind but fell flat on ground with no alternate plan whatsoever...
So, until unless he changes his ATTITUDE , he cannot be a true winner.
Would also agree., right now, he has lost his thinking capacity...and would need a guide...
But as per what i feel, none of the family nor A can be this as explained in my earlier post...
If CV's are also, thinking on the plane of providing a guiding force for J, the possibility is LS right now.,
but thinking LOUD, it may indeed seem inappropriate and ridiculous for most of you, but from the beginning, i always felt it may be Shiv also...
I agree J is A's EX and Shiv should not have anything to do with him., but considering his character profile., I would not be surprised if he is the one who can show a direction to J and help him in getting on track...😆 not at the immeadiate outset., but some where in future...when J is finally ready.,😆 although this is a very remote possibility
OR
A new character would be introduced...for this realisation to come across J...why not Baby Dukh...An i.nnocent child of his own may set the realisation process on the GO...in igniting him a zeal to actually do something concrete by himself, by self correction, there by becoming a self made man...😃
Edited by adi2512 - 13 years ago
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@adi2512 Lol..Baby Dukh..let us have a better name for the poor child. And the baby is yet to come as we do not know the fate of the mother. We do not even know if the baby will see the light of the day. I,of course,want the character of Gauri to survive. It is a very important character and has to be there for maintaining a balance.

Yes,it can be Shiv..but, we cannot at the present moment think of that. If it happens,it can happen very late. I wrote,when I felt who can be of help in the immediate vicinity. But, it is also a question if Jagya will ever seek help or take to it kindly if it is offered voluntarily.
Edited by mocking_bird - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sukanya and Aparna

Great post. Very well analyzed and very articulated. Yes we all know Jagya's character that he can be everything except manipulative. Woh baitha baitha khayali poolav banata rahega.
  • 1st he thought he will hug DS and get forgiveness
  • then after Divorce Anandi will be still waiting for him...
  • he want everything in easy way. He has to understand that life is not bed of roses specially for him now.
  • He has to work hard to get acceptrd by family he can't force Anandi to forgive him.

I can go on and on...





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Posted: 13 years ago
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Dear TM,
I m not a regular to this forum but today ur post made me stop by and read !!
This was a very very well written post 👏

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