Holy Jihad brigades- Kidnapping

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Excerpt from CNN.com

"As vague as it was, the demand put forth Wednesday by a previously unknown Palestinian militant group calling itself the Holy Jihad Brigades who claimed to be behind the August 14 capture of two Fox News crewmen in Gaza appeared to be just part of yet another anti-Western kidnapping. In a videotape showing the two journalists — Steve Centanni, 60, a U.S. citizen, and Olaf Wiig, 36, a New Zealand cameraman — their captors demanded that in return for their release the U.S. should free an unspecified number of Muslim prisoners from its jails. But Palestinian security sources tell TIME that the conditions presented Wednesday are little more than a stall tactic, and that the seizure of the two men has much more to do with internal Palestinian and Islamic militant politics than with striking a blow against Israel and the U.S."
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The world watches again when another terrorist outfit kidnaps and threatens beheading !!🤢

Do you think U.S will negotiate with terrorists ? Should U.S negotiate with this terrorist group for the release of FOX News reporters?

What will happen if they don't?


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Posted: 19 years ago
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India is so used to such kind of threatening 🤢 ....A flight was hijacked for the release of the chief of the Hizbul Mujahideen,and India did release that swine and not only that,gave them some money too 🤢

It'd be intresting to see what the US does
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Could someone kindly explain the "real" meaning of the term jihad to me..Because every terrorist used this term to his convinience,and succeeds in naming acts of sheer dastardliness as holy wars 🤢
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Posted: 19 years ago
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I agree with Buffie, it certainly would be interesting to see how Bush responds to this!

But i do think that the US government should talk to terrorists. I dont mean that they should give in to everything that terrorist demand, but they at least could know what it is that terrorist demand. And then they could decide whether or not to budge!
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Buffie

Jihad is

"an Islamic term, from the Arabic root ghd ("to exert utmost effort, to strive, struggle"), which connotes a wide range of meanings: anything from an inward spiritual struggle to attain perfect faith to a political or military struggle to further the Islamic cause. Individuals involved in the political or military forms of jihad are often labeled with the neologism "jihadist".

The term "jihad" is often simplistically reduced in western languages and non-Islamic cultures as generally "holy war", but this "physical" struggle, which encompasses religion, only makes up part of the broader meaning of the concept of jihad. (The term 'holy war' was coined by the Christian Crusaders who fought the Muslims for control of the Holy Land.)"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad

Just a brief explanation. Jihad doesn't necessarily mean holy war. 😊

I think the US should negotiate but it seems as though they've become experts at this. How come they haven't responded to these crimes and stopped them from occuring so frequently. 🤓

How many times has this happened. 😡 I can clearly name one of the previous kidnappees: Daniel Pearle.

That man was killed. 😕 I think he had a pregnant wife at home pleading the government to save her husband.

I don't understand why the extremists do this.

It just brings a bad name to the Muslim community. It's ridiculous.

This isn't Jihad. 😔Jihad isn't really a major part of the religion unless you're a Shia as said in the Wikipedia article. Jihad originally is the struggles that were done by the Sahabah and the Muslims in the Crusades. 😊


Edited by sk91 - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Jihad i guess actually means the struggle that every individual goes thru to be a good human and to emancipation and most importantly enlightnment.
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Originally posted by: Buffie

Could someone kindly explain the "real" meaning of the term jihad to me..

https://www.islamanswers.net/jihad/meaning.htm

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Posted: 19 years ago
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Jihad - Supreme Efforts in the Way of Allah

Jihad means, exerting one's utmost power contending with an object of disapprobation, and this is of three kinds, namely, (1) with a visible enemy, (2) with Satan, and (3) with one's self. The Quran teaches that when war breaks out, it should be waged in such a way as to cause the least possible amount of damage to life and property; and that hostilities should be brought to a close as quickly as possible.
22:40 Permission to fight is given to those against whom war is made, because they have been wronged - and Allah indeed has power to help them - 22:41 Those who have been driven out from their homes unjustly only because they said, 'Our Lord is Allah' - And if Allah did not repel some men by means of others, there would surely have been pulled down cloisters and churches and synagogues and mosques, wherein the name of Allah is oft commemorated. And Allah will surely help one who helps Him. Allah is indeed Powerful, Mighty - 60:9 Allah forbids you not, respecting those who have not fought against you on account of your religion, and who have not driven you forth from your homes, that you be kind to them and act equitably towards them; surely Allah loves those who are equitable. 60:10 Allah only forbids you - respecting those who have fought against you on account of your religion, and have driven you out of your homes, and have helped others in driving you out, that you make friends of them, and whosoever makes friends of them-it is these that are the transgressors. 61:11 O ye who believe! shall I point out to you a bargain that will save you from a painful punishment? 61:12 That you believe in Allah and His Messenger, and strive in the cause of Allah with your wealth and your persons. That is better for you, if you did not know. 29:70 And as for those who strive in Our path-We will surely guide them in Our ways. And verily Allah is with those who do good. 9:20 Those who believe and emigrate from their homes for the sake of God and strive in the cause of Allah with their property and their persons have the highest rank in the sight of Allah. And it is they who shall triumph. 9:111 Surely, Allah has purchased of the believers their persons and their property in return for the Garden they shall have; they fight in the cause of Allah, and they slay and are slain - a promise that He has made incumbent on Himself in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Qur'an. And who is more faithful to his promise than Allah? Rejoice, then, in your bargain which you have made with Him; and that it is which is the supreme triumph.

4:96 Those of the believers who sit still, excepting the disabled ones, and those who strive in the cause of Allah with their wealth and their persons, are not equal. Allah has exalted in rank those who strive with their wealth and their persons above those who sit still. And to each Allah has promised good. And Allah has exalted those who strive above those who sit still, by a great reward.

From Selected Verses of the Holy Qur'an

CONCEPT OF JIHAD IN ISLAM

Through the actions of some elements, the western world visualizes a wrong concept of Jihad (Holy War). The word Jihad conjures up the vision of a marching band of religious fanatics with savage beards and fiery eyes, brandishing swords and attacking the infidels. Jihad in Islamic terminology means to make an effort, to endeavour and to strive in a noble way. Over the centuries this meaning of Jihad has been obliterated or at least diluted. The critical juncture in the Islamic world requires reviving and recapturing the true and pristine meaning of Jihad. Jihad can be divided into two broad categories. First is Jihad-e-akbar. This is Jihad against one's own person to curb sinful inclinations, i.e., purification of self. This is the most difficult Jihad and hence in terms of rewards and blessings is the highest category of Jihad. The second is Jihad-e-asghar. This is Jihad of the sword. This is communal Jihad and presupposes certain specific conditions. The Quran speaks of fighting only against those who first attack Muslims and this is the very condition laid down in other verses of the Holy Quran as well. The so-called verse of the sword in the Islamic scripture is often taken out of context as if it inculcates an indiscriminate massacre of all unbelievers. The Quranic words such as kill whatever you find them apply only in cases where the enemy has first attacked Muslims and apply to those unbelievers and enemies who break their oaths and firm agreements. They do not apply to unprovoked wars and battles. To interpret these verses in any other manner would be a travesty of the lofty ideals of Islam. There is not a single instance in the life of the Holy Prophet where he offered the alternative of the sword or Islam to anyone. The Western media and even some scholars sometimes ignore the distinction between these two aspects of Jihad. It must be remembered that the Holy Quran does not make Jihad, the holy war, in context of an article of faith. The sayings and traditions of the Holy Prophet render it into a formula for active struggle that invariably and incorrectly tended towards a militant expression. Modern day terrorism is contrary to the purview of the real spirit of the Islamic Jihad.

The presentation of Islam as a crude and barbaric religion which gives itself the right to cause unwarranted human and material suffering and destruction under the guise of Divine authority, is not the kind of Islam we find in the Holy Quran and in the precepts of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him!)

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above two articles have the real meaning of Jihad, that is what Allah has told us, we someone misuse it, then it is not the fault of the religion or anyone, but of the person doing that!!!

Edited by Ms. Bholi Bhali - 19 years ago
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Posted: 19 years ago
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but how is war a holy thing?
isnt violence kinda the opposite?
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Posted: 19 years ago
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There have been several incidence of kidnapping both from US and other parts of the world, including S.Korea. In all these kidnappings, the govts refused to do any negotiations and almost ALL the men and women kidnapped had their head sawed out in the name of 'holy war' 🤢

And I don't think it will be any different this time. In fact Buffie India is the only country which reacted to the hostage situation bt freeing the militants.

However, Fox is a powerful channel, and it can get into some kind of negotiations on to free the two journalists.

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