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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: ritzy09

@Mahi..@Anjy...reading your posts...well what about Jagya getting flashbacks of Shiv hitting him...this was after his so called realisationa nd redemption...right...

I don't think he is going to repent so soon...not only he wants his home, his hospital, money etc...he wants his girl back as well and that too from the collector who hit him...abhi woh mission ghar ka ladesar pe hai...very soon it will be mission meri beendni ki khushi...

what more memories he has of shiv 😆after seeing him first time to recognize who is this guy what he will remember you tell? and what he said after seeing him that collector took my place in my house ...but he didn't say o how dare he o now i know why family wanted divorce so early ..o i know how they were quiet in front of shiv when he put me in jail ..didn't support me ..o i hate them revenge ...did he do that no so this on way of redemption ..i believe i am the one who is focussing so much on J 's redemeption ..and i tell you i will get a party here when i will won this bet here 🤣
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

Mahi - u are forgetting Anandi mai ki prior vachans to J... that he never do to G what he did to her. That is Y I am sure she will try to suljhofy his rishta with Singhs but, also return him gift wrapped to Gaurimatashri... also don't forget Antaryami Mummy, she will not let Kawarsaa go that easily




so did he do that to her what he did with Anandi ...if Anandi after coming to know about truth will say this she need mental help 😆and you are forgetting A has been standing with J for so long even G to be accepted by singh family...she will bring them back in jaitser not to gift wrap him again to Gauri to mumbai ...she will shorten the gap not widen it again ..J wants his family ..singh family too doesn't say but in hearts and hearts cry for him and want him back and have shown their pain so many times which Anandi is familiar of ..so i believe she will never say to him to go she will advise to come back even if she wants to rebuild his relation with G he will advise im to bring her here not to go again 😆
Edited by mahi12 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ


No chappals though JaAn enthusiasts ve suggested same. Here is my q, Y wud A take responsibility for J's kid? Its J's kid. Its his responsibility. Moreover, he has Sumi, DS, etc. Y Anandi? If J died or abandoned the child and AnSh adopted...but, short of that Y?



I am in no way in support of JaAn reunion never! 🤢
I merely think they might get AnSh to adopt the kid 🤔
I know what you mean abt having DS, Simu but you know na CVs
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Posted: 13 years ago

i am not supporting Jagaya but i do believe dear you going are over board with accusations on jagaya which are going out of serial too ... the accusations you are putting on him for leaving Gauri for his purposes because he was fed up of with her wanted a way out even cvs didn't show ...tell me since when she was living up to his expectations or he was living a happy life with her that one day he found fault in her .if he wanted a way out he was fed up with her why not leave her after her countless insults . the difference of Anandi and Gauri started coming in his mind long before ..he wanted to come back to his family say to them Gauri does this to me she is so bad you guys were right but did he do that . no ..badi massi incident could be a perfect excuse for him did leave her no ...her miscarriage if he wanted a way out he said to her many times not to drive in pregnancy she did ..did he leave her no ,,,she ruined his career confessed he forgave her was not angry on her its ok ...for what for her love ..the day before he came to know about her truth he was happily feeding her from his expressions from this you deduced this guy wanted a way out from relation he is fed up of this girl .?..this guy was sleeping with this girl hugging her to overcome his pain of losing everything ..he has her she loves him the day reality of her true love will open to him she cares damn about him all her love shove was to keep him away from his family .what you expect him to do shower flowers on her or say to her thank you since i did wrong so that gave you birth right to do whatever with me you are right i am wrong ?why he can't be angry on her when she cheated him ..is he not a human being ...yes whenever he does wrong everyone has to throw him out their lives if anyone does wrong with him he cannot complain ..just because he is no saint then tell me who is saint in this serial...😕those who are wiping their hands on Jagaya continously blaming him for everything have they did no wrong in their lives ?


.this girl did no small mistake ..if for you lying cheating manipulating your husband knowingly .knowingly planning and plotting for your husband to separate him from those things those people he is dying to go back..use his blind trust and faith in you for your selfish purpose then flatly throw it on in his face with yes i did attitude if these all for you are small mistakes then i will Jagaya say is wrong here he should not have left her ...but i believe you will think these are no small mistakes ...when she proved to him she doesn't love him by caring damn about him no shame for her mistakes even for her lying to her husband is no wrong why you expect him to be with her following relations when this woman proved to him she care damns about him ..for her own self is important ..she is wrong doesn't she deserve to even apologize to him or he should do that to her

and i believe our dear cvs the ones who are writers of this show too blamed Gauri for Jagaya Gauri break up held her responsible because if you see the episode the ending voice over was for her not J on her face it came all relations , love relations based on lies with a spark of truth burn down to ashes ...she was the one buliding her castle on lies with her truth coming out it shattered down to pieces ..this is what writers have shown to us and you are accusing Jagaya for dumping her ... what i can deduce from it ..you are saying you don't blindly hate him is this no blind hatred that is making you going out of your serial with your accusations 🤔

where Jagaya has said he wants comfort of his haveli back in his life ..if he is desparate for his family members love he has been for a long time this is no one day story ..today he is yearning for them even more because he is alone ..he is yearing for their love not for their house ...he left if came back in his bhikari stauts he came following his imagination .i believe cva at time have shown him having no money to reset his looks ..😆..he wasn't coming back ..he thought everything is over for him that dadisaa imagination of him made him come back saying maybe dadisaa will forgive him ..he didn't imagine Anandi there saying i love you Anandi but dadisaa ...if when he was coming back from Mumbai there he thought he still has a chance in Anandi's life have you seen in FB's .. was he remembering his honey moon days? no ... he was remembering his interactions with Anandi after his marriage with Gauri where again and again destiny brought him back in her life... her in his ..again and again giving him an indication ..chances but he failed to understand now was remembering them when he saw he is not getting any chance there in Anandi 's life he backed away ..

i believe from so many episodes all i am hearing from his mouth about Anandi is only forgivness no where he said or even dreamed about her ...in his unconscious state all he is blabbering when a person has no control over his feelings his deepest heart desires all he is saying please forgive him where he said or saying i am back Anandi please accept me 🤔all he is doing is family family family and their forgiveness which i believe cvs have shown him a human being too not an alien any person who is guilty over his action his first effort will be forgiveness ...his soul is overburdened with guilt ..he is not finding peace ..he wants to lessen that burden by getting the people he hurted their forgiveness otherwise he will die...which is quite normal for anyone in his situation ..he will try to rectify his mistakes in future too he is currently on very first stage of his redemption with his mnd and soul too much consumed with guilt even in his dream the dark cave where he was trapped was symbollism of his guilt and ray of light he saw was dadisaa because he found her mala later he still has a chance to get forgiveness from his family ,,surely in future he will try to find a way to rectify his mistakes for that we need to wait and see ..he will win trust back of his family he said he will keep TRYING ..so that trying meant he will do something

sorry dear don;t mind but i am kind of completely disagreeing with you its not just own view points case here but i do believe you are going out of serial with your accusations on J because many things even the writers of show didn't show which you are putting on him 😕


Mahi
When I said he wants back the comfort of his family.I didn't mean that he wanted to be in Haweli.I meant it in the emotional sense.
His apology is motivated by his need to have the comforting presence of his family around him.Not because he has realised the extent of the damage he has caused.
When he left Gauri he wanted to go back to Anandi if she would have him.Sorry to say but that kind of thought process is not acceptable CVs have shown this.Leaving one woman and wanting to run into the arms of another woman is not acceptable.
Anandi was never blind to J's shortcomings or his faults.She accepted him with all his faults.That's what love is all about.
If J and G find each others shortcomings intolerable what kind of a love is that?If he had loved her he would have dragged her along with him to his parents place would have had her apologise.
He still thinks that if he can convince DS he can get back to his family.

I will still stand by what I said .His apology is only a means to get his family back.Not because he has realised his faults.He has a long way to go before I can say that he is on path to redemption.

I do not think I am going overboard with accusations.I form my opinions only based on what is shown by the CVs If you think otherwise it is fine by me.😊

Edited by aparnauma - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
Thanks for the update 😊 I just couldnt tolerate Jagiya on screen. Felt like hitting each and every part of him for all the things he told anandi. Just hope he doesn crawl back to her on Maafi mission just like his Bimbo wife's aashirwad mission!
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: aparnauma

Mahi
When I said he wants back the comfort of his family.I didn't mean that he wanted to be in Haweli.I meant it in the emotional sense.
His apology is motivated by his need to have the comforting presence of his family around him.Not because he has realised the extent of the damage he has caused.
When he left Gauri he wanted to go back to Anandi if she would have him.Sorry to say but that kind of thought process is not acceptable CVs have shown this.Leaving one woman and wanting to run into the arms of another woman is not acceptable.
Anandi was never blind to J's shortcomings or his faults.She accepted him with all his faults.That's what love is all about.
If J and G find each others shortcomings intolerable what kind of a love is that?If he had loved her he would have dragged her along with him to his parents place would have had her apologise.
He still thinks that if he can convince DS he can get back to his family.

I will still stand by what I said .His apology is only a means to get his family back.Not because he has realised his faults.He has a long way to go before I can say that he is on path to redemption.

I do not think I am going overboard with accusations.I form my opinions only based on what is shown by the CVs If you think otherwise it is fine by me.😊

i can see you are standing firm on your opinion 😆..you have every right to be it is not necessary you should agree with me neither i am making you dear but i do want you convince me because still i am finding your answer unconvincing and if you are making your accusations on what cvs have shown why are you ignoring other things ...and i have answered your question of Jagaya Gauri where i found Jagaya was compromising with shortcomings of Gauri but you didn't answer me for that again same reply..from you...😕don't you think loving a person at his worst means you have trust on that person one day or the other that person will change everything will go back to normal,,,no one loves a bad person everyone loves good one when a person loves a person at his worst that means he has trust his beloved will change for good one day ,,when that trust breaks then what a person should do?does he has any choice at that time and when his beloved proves to him i not gonna change ..you go to hell ..then what he should do ? still sticked to that person? its impossible for even an animal to be this loyal to his owner leave a human being ...if someone breaks trust of a person it is trust breaker's responisbility to rebuild it or you think whose trust is broken ...😕

i still fail to understand why you are again and again on this approach that one day Jagaya found out flaws in Gauri and left her he should have compromised with her short comings then please can you tell me what he was doing before ...since when she was the world's most sweetest wife to him or at her best?

the countless insults she threw on him i am not saying he happily took all he fought back but gauri left no stone un turned to insult him everywhere in front of people or alone but did he leave her ..no ..or you will say she was at her best here ...certainly not ..she was at her worst but did he leave her no for what for his love for her love ..so didn't he make compromise with her shortcomings..stayed with her at her worst

she never listened to him the biggest damage her miscarriage ...how many times he taunted her for that made her life a hell .? never ..did he leave her after that so didnt he compromised with her short comings ..yes the blame went on poor Anandi but jagaya never taunted Gauri for not listening to him ..did he ?for what he did that for her love for his love

she ruined his career confessed he forgave ..its she who is not accepting mistake on her part later but kept blaming him but he never left her after that ..so didn't he compromised with her short comings for her love for his love

the badi massi incident Jagaya was very angry with her for this but still didn't leave her came back to her didn't leave her for that ..so didn't he compromised with her short comings with this belief she loves him he loves her ...

all the above things i have mentioned certainly you will agree with me in this Gauri was not a her best but worst but still Jagaya didn't leave her for what for her love he believed she loves him he loves her one day or the other everything will go back to good so wasn't he compromising with her short comings here ...wasn't he staying with her at her worst never leaving her now the day the reality of her love opened to him all her lying cheating manipulating him all her love just to keep him away from his family that family to whom he is dying to go back and Gauri knows all still she is planning and plotting to keep him away in which he like a fool believed in she is doing it for his benefit but in real she is doing it for her selfish purposes for her revenge against his family using him like a tool for to attain her purposes ..does he has no right to be angry on her and i believe he was angry on himself too he said it many times it was my fault too...he came back to question Gauri she is showing off attitude yes i did now what this mother's ladla will do go back to your parents and cry in their lap heck i don't care what you do ..this is answer to your question he should have dragged her to his parents she proved to him she won't go ...she is no sorry if you say he should go and apologize on her behalf for what he should do that ?when she proved to him she doesn't care for him by not showing one ounce of shame that she did wrong in even lying to him ...is this his worth for her ? he should make all sacrifices do all for her she should always throw it on his face ..his hope his trust broke she is ever gonna change if she would have asked forgiveness ok later when her mind was cool give a call to him say sorry but she is showing off her attitude still here even if he left her she didn't realize his worth for her he lives or dies she don't care and you expect him still follow his relation with her

my dear no relation in the world exist without trust when trusts breaks badly relations too break trust needs to be rebuild so here it should be Gauri who needs to try rebulid Jagaya's trust on her she broke it ...so why not try why should he ...he lost hope in her his trust broke she loves him so he found it better to go back heal the wounds of those who truly love him instead of banging his head on this woman who doesn't care damn about him

Anandi accepted Jagaya with his flaws Jagaya too did for Gauri Gauri too did with him but when he earned forgiveness and trust from her by giving tests of his love not on her own she gave him that chance ...when Anandi;s hope broke her trust broke that her relation with her love can ever be rebuild again she freed him and her from this relation ...so right now don't Jagaya is at same position with Gauri ...Gauri broke his trust big time ..proved to him she doesn't love him doesn't care for him so he moved out his relation instead of forcing himself on her ...yes about legal procedures it will take some time ..but i guess no one jumps on divorce within first day of breakage of their relation ..with time they do so first everyone move out as it is

coming to Jagaya yearning for comforts of his family i believe you must heard the famous saying when a person lands into trouble he first runs to his home his family members to find shelter and peace in it ...Jagaya is in deep trouble right now so he trying to find peace among his own people in their forgiveness ...its absoultely natural for any person to do in his position i don't see it any out of world behavior ...


Edited by mahi12 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago

They chose to be together against all odds.Because they thought they were perfect for each other.
J thought Gauri was a perfect partner for him in a A could never be.She was educated,urbane,smart and not to mention beautiful.
G also found more or less the same reasons in Jagat.
THe sceanario in which they met was perfect and things were rosy.

But after marriage on their first visit itself J realised that what he threw away was not as useless as he thought.That was what brought about the insecurities in Gauri.Which were the reasons for their fights.Soon after they finished their MS Gauri moved forward professionally and J couldn't.and that made him feel inferior and he was also depressed all the time.

Gauri's insecurity and Jagat's infeririority complex are the root cause for the problems they face in their marriage.I do not think these are enough to break a marriage.

If you think J should'nt continue his relationship with Gauri on the basis of all the things that she has done then G also shouldn't continue her relation ship with J.
These two have failed the tests that life had given them.Their worst points came out.
If you can not accept your partner at his/her worst then what kind of love is it.

Love is not blind.Love is accepting a person/partner with all his/her faults and working around those flaws and making a relationship a sucess..

That's why for me redemption for G and J comes from continuing/resuming their relationship accepting each other with all their faults there by resurrecting their relationship from the ashes that it has been reduced to. The child will help them in the beginning and may be later on DS too.
I hope this explains my stand on the issue.If you do not find it convincing I cannot help it.Even if you do not agree with it also it's fine by me.

We will agree to disagree and leave it at that.

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