Is marriage an outdated institution?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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To marry or not to marry that is the question.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I wouldnt say it is 'outdated' .
It really depends from person to person.
Personally, marriage looks beautiful to me provided there is love, commitment, respect and communion between the two people and their families.
If love ever happens, and if both the parents are very consenting, I'd definately get married.
Otherwise, it's a big no no. There's nothing more uglier than a marriage where two people are just living together under one roof, indulging in sex while both the individuals arent close enough, adjusting and compromising for one another, getting tired of each other but still managing through, having cold relations with in-laws, lying to one another, being dishonest and unfair to one another, not giving enough time to another - not prioritizing one another, lacking values and an un-systematic way of life together, and having a husband that's chauvinistic/dominating/even a hen-pecked one is all just pitiful.
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Marriage became outdated during the Third Reich in Europe. We suffered since, and the internal and social life changed patterns drastically to an extent that there is no fabric left.
It is difficult to understand unless you pass through the phase. Other than the western and american systems, there is an alternative of a more moderate spiritualistic way of life where marriage and family still plays a central role. As I spent only a few months in India (and I don't follow its movies), all I can say is that it is going through a transition period due to which it is yet unsure of which identity to take for itself. As for Eastern Europe (my country Poland comes into it), we also went through a similar time, however, the concept of marriage is gaining more popularity and it is certainly a much better and stable way of life.
Ofcourse, it also depends on the kind of partner you choose, and how you choose it. The Indian system is different perhaps because of its traditions. In Europe its more a reconstruction, atleast in the Central and East of it. The German and American family model is not popular at all.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: seoulbeats

To marry or not to marry that is the question.

Marry or dont marry doesn't matter...Being single is great!... all just need someone to share it with !!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil

I wouldnt say it is 'outdated' .

It really depends from person to person.
Personally, marriage looks beautiful to me provided there is love, commitment, respect and communion between the two people and their families.

If love ever happens, and if both the parents are very consenting, I'd definately get married.
Otherwise, it's a big no no. There's nothing more uglier than a marriage where two people are just living together under one roof, indulging in sex while both the individuals arent close enough, adjusting and compromising for one another, getting tired of each other but still managing through, having cold relations with in-laws, lying to one another, being dishonest and unfair to one another, not giving enough time to another - not prioritizing one another, lacking values and an un-systematic way of life together, and having a husband that's chauvinistic/dominating/even a hen-pecked one is all just pitiful.


I agree with you. Marriage should have love. But does love last in today's world? Is it possible to know your spouse in and out and still spend an entire lifetime with them? Even if you love them is love enough?

That's a lot of questions. All of them rhetoric.

One in three marriages end up in divorce.Mostly because we are selfish, uncompromising and rigid, have different views, unhealthy situations etc.

Take the marriage of Kim Kardashian for example. She married a football player, had PDA's with him like they couldn't have been more in love but ended the marriage after 72 days. personally I think it was just another of her publicity stunt but really, what a shame in the name of marriage.

When people fall in and out of love like it's just a swimming pool than does marriage remain relevant?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Polki_Zofi

Marriage became outdated during the Third Reich in Europe. We suffered since, and the internal and social life changed patterns drastically to an extent that there is no fabric left.

It is difficult to understand unless you pass through the phase. Other than the western and american systems, there is an alternative of a more moderate spiritualistic way of life where marriage and family still plays a central role. As I spent only a few months in India (and I don't follow its movies), all I can say is that it is going through a transition period due to which it is yet unsure of which identity to take for itself. As for Eastern Europe (my country Poland comes into it), we also went through a similar time, however, the concept of marriage is gaining more popularity and it is certainly a much better and stable way of life.
Ofcourse, it also depends on the kind of partner you choose, and how you choose it. The Indian system is different perhaps because of its traditions. In Europe its more a reconstruction, atleast in the Central and East of it. The German and American family model is not popular at all.


I am not talking about India only but the entire world in general.I see marriages falling apart left,right and center and I just wondered has the institution of marriage become outdated?

People date, fall in love and then marry. Everything is butterfly and moonbeams initially but then when the excitement has settled in they sometimes fall out of love or whatever but just drag on with the marriage because of society or children. I think that doesn't make sense.

Though I think it does differ from people to people. Some might find happiness while others may not.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I too have noticed increased cases of divorce and failed marriages in recent times. This has definitely cast doubts on institution of marriage and provided fodder to the lot which is against marriage. Here is my objective analysis. lol.

1) The "arranged marriage" system is not working in modern times. Many times you do not know the person and enter into a marriage and then later realized the package you got. By package I mean spouse and family et al.
2) Most of the time there is no "love" in loved marriages lol. Its a temporary emotion which goes away with time. Maybe there are odd cases but they are rare.
3) The live ins, no strings, friends with benefits, open relationships are non-commited scenarios which lack sincerity to begin with.
4) Shahrukh Khan syndrome has got to many. One expects someone stylish and handsome as Mr. SRK (1996 version) spreading arms for them but ends up with Nana Paterekar giving lectures. Lets just say its not a good start. lol.
5) Men on the other hand are unable to come to terms with changing roles and increasing "freedom and liberty" of women in society. They get insecure a lot. lol.
Overall all comes down to one point and I have made this many times. In this world, wherever you go, whomever you meet, they like you, love you, care for you, accept you for your good. No one accepts you for your ills. Maybe I am being idealistic but I sincerely believe that only those relationships (firends, marriages, any) succeed where one accepts others totally. Maybe this is not happening.
In conclusion, there is nothing wrong with institution of marriage. We need to look for reasons in ownself also. lol.
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Many things need to happen between the "people date" > "fall in love" > "marry". It is neither complicated nor over simplistic, rather a very natural process.

Ofcourse it depends on people, but that doesn't mean that its limited to a particular kind of people. For some people the understanding is sooner than others. There are many intervening factors for marriage, these may be social or even economical.
The emotional reason, i.e. the spiritual aspect, is developed from childhood. Someone (e.g. like myself) who grows up in an atmosphere where the institution of marriage faded, and the confusion of single life is placed, to gain the correct emotional understanding of marriage takes a lot more time compared to someone who had such an upbringing (e.g. my husband). However, this does not mean that someone who did not have the emotional atmosphere working as a teacher will never acknowledge the importance of a truely functioning family. Infact she might due to religion or some friend, or even sheer "will" to bring a change in life.
At the same time the person growing up in a proper family might not like many things about it and thus loose his or her "will". This is the end of belief and everything, and leads a person in a hunt for something he does not even know properly, other than MTV and hollywood ofcourse. However, ofcourse, a good mother can instill good values, and a stable mind will be more controlled, I'm happy I met a man who knew how to value things which are essentially his positives which makes him unique.
If a couple looks for more than just fun when together, and finds warmth in the most little things such as "commitment, humility, honesty, service and true intent", every other thing can be managed, and a couple can live a very economically efficient life together and have a reasonable future.
As you mentioned 'the butterfly and moonbeams" are temprorary spikes in ones emotions, which are also necessary. But if they become the foundation of something, then it is nothing less than selfish and materialistic, and such relationships cannot sustain.
There are so many things, but this is the most concise way I can think of. Here cultural difference or linguistic or even religious difference doesn't remain a difference, but rather becomes diversity which keeps the twinkle of curiosity alive.
Love is the truest blessing on a soul. But love cannot be compared to candy, rather it can be compared to "hope" and "wisdom", these two - like love - are eternal. Love is an identity of God in Christianity 😊
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Originally posted by: King-Anu

I too have noticed increased cases of divorce and failed marriages in recent times. This has definitely cast doubts on institution of marriage and provided fodder to the lot which is against marriage. Here is my objective analysis. lol.

1) The "arranged marriage" system is not working in modern times. Many times you do not know the person and enter into a marriage and then later realized the package you got. By package I mean spouse and family et al.
No idea about it, its an Indian system.
2) Overall there is no such thing as "love". Its a temporary emotion which goes away with time. Maybe there are odd cases but they are rare and few and not for everyone.
No idea about it, its an Indian system. The old system in the Victorian age, of King Sobieski's age in Poland, would be a girl and a boy getting a date arranged by some elder (generally married sisters or aunts) where they get to know in other in a friendly way and then if they like each other they would marry later. Its very different from the Indian system in many ways. It used to work between people whose priorities were "sustained marriage" not just a guy or a girl who is fun to be with.
3) The live ins, no strings, friends with benefits, open relationships are non-commited scenarios which lack sincerity to begin with.
Lack of sincerety cannot sustain any relationship, neither material nor spiritual.
4) Shahrukh Khan syndrome has got to many. One expects someone stylish and handsome as Mr. SRK spreading arms for them and singing songs but ends up with nana paterekar. Lets just say its not a good start. lol.
I saw a movie of this actor during my stay in India. I don't remember much, but I slept before the movie ended 😳😆...probably because I was tired. I like Russian movies more, they are very intellectual.
5) Men on the other hand are unable to come to terms with changing roles and increasing "freedom and liberty" of women in society.
Some roles cannot change, they are biological. Human physic evolved (similar to animal physic) according to its roles and duties. Its a heated debate in the west, and India is taking that from there I suppose. However, equality is surely a very important thing. I have seen Indian women not in equal terms with its men in India, which was something sad. However, I am in favor of some roles which even if I were not in favor would not change.
Overall all comes down to one point and I have made this many times. In this world, wherever you go, whomever you meet, they like you, love you, care for you, accept you for your good. No one accepts you for your ills. Maybe I am being idealistic but I sincerely believe that only those relationships succeed where one accepts others totally. The environment in recent times is such that it is difficult to find such a person. We are superficial who have interests. I think that is the reason. I dont like that. lol
In conclusion, there is nothing wrong with institution of marriage.

The red replied are mine 😳, felt I add some more
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Originally posted by: Polki_Zofi

The red replied are mine 😳, felt I add some more

Sure...no problem. lol.

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