Vickram/Rawan REALLY CV's????

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I was very pissed off with the Precap of today's show...why are they comparing Vickram to Rawan??? OHhh he is this totally evil human being? How could they even think that. I mean I know precaps could be deceiving, but I mean I get a sense they are going to slowly ...maybe not so slowly make Vickram into a toatally unreognisable person, to us who were LOYAL to the show from the beginning and did not just Jump on board because I liked the new actor on the show. I think they should take us LOYAL fans into consideration, but I know i am probably just waisting my breath.
If they needed Sugni to be heart broken from the beginning, there were other ways they could have done it, I could have even stomach the fact that he broke her heart , becuse his intentions behind it all were always, evil...but they gave no indication of that...from day one he was a person shown as a big hearted, good guy. Every one on the Show loves him... Cause he was always a loveable character...
Now suddenly he is EVIL??? the whole world hates him...FOR WHAT...beliving his wife to be dead?? Falling in love with some one? So he lied, i think a man who spent most of his life dealing with a mad woman, and living a lonely exsistance would be afraid of loosing the one thing that made him happy...
He was wrong, and yes he deserves to pay for it agreed, but instead of making him rectify his mistake , they plan on making him a Ravan.. they deserve for this show to go to the dogs...
Sorry I am just so mad right now
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Vinnie, Sometime ago, there was a show 12/24 KB. The sister in the show was a positive character. I really loved her character. She was just awesome! The storyline however decided to go in another direction as they could not develop a storyline for her. The role reversal was just unbelievable...it was so horrible that the moderator of the forum, the late Ramas, could not stomach the show and asked for the CVs to end the show rather than create this storyline. Fans of the show pleaded for the show to end. The ruining of this character was plain awful to watch; just like TVS, she was principled and was the voice of reason to the lead character...the girl was expected to sedue her brother-in-law and turn on her sister whom she loved dearly. Towards the end of the show we never saw the character again; we didn't even know what happened to her!! It's like she was never even part of the show!!! Later, we learned they did it for TRPs. Another actor on the show as also turned negative to the point he attempted to rape a character on the show (again for TRPS). Very little was done in the way of developing his change. While he ws not a "nice" guy, he certainly did not present as a rapist.
See Vinnie, the writers really wanted to show TVS as an evil, lecherous character - someone we were not supposed to trust and they never gave us any clues because they thought it would be a good twist to make him evil all of a sudden. That's not how you write a story; you cannot turn a character from night to day without a valid reason and without there being something present from the beginning. It's the art of a good storyteller; this is not good storytelling.
Moreover, taking a character the public loves and destroying them to the point they become unrecognizable for ratings or uplifting another character is wrong. It does not play well at all. I mean look at TVS; he's unshaven, sulking, looking weak and miserable...the TVS I saw earlier would a) never have deceived Sugni and b) divorced his wife if he saw her again and c) if he had deceived Sugni, told her that he would never interfere in her life again and d) pack his bags and move back to Delhi so she wouldn't have to see him again.
So what are the writers doing? Creating situations for them to run into each other over and over again! How boring and uncreative.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Yes Laila i agree with you the TVS shown earlier and the one now are totally unrecongnizable. The earlier TVS was strong and fearless someone who would never hide his wife but face the fact. He would have told Sugni immediately. I understand circumstances does make a person change but not to this extent where he just sits and broods and just bows down to Reva's whims and fancies. They are making him out to be a coward and gradually into Ravan. Sad very sad this show is not worth watching anymore.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ravan is not considered the epitome of evil in some cultures. There are cultures who view Ravan as a more three-dimensional figure rather than just an out and out villain who's the symbol of evil.

I know it may not translate to the Hindi speaking audiences who are the main demographic, and the argument will be that the intended audience will interpret in a certain way.

Even so, it doesn't really bother me much.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Well Ravan isn't necessarily a totally negative character. He is a grey character and was considered a very well rounded scholar, instrument player, capable and just ruler and an all rounded warrior. Yes, he did kidnap Sita...but there are a lot of debates etc., around that act of his. Indian scriptures tend to have multiple layers to it, and the layman interpretation is that Ravan was evil...which is as black (Ravan) and white (Ram). Also, there are other arguments as because there was Ravan, we have a Ram. It is very complex issue, if we go into the heart of the issue.

I am not sure if and how the character of TVS is finally going to be developed by CVs. Nor do I give them much credit. But if they really can show a Ravan in TVS, that will be a huge challenge and some achievement by these CVs. In a sense, Ram a single layered, whereas Ravan was somemulti-layered human character that achieve his worth through hard labor and his own capabilities...he himself was a hero in his own right...and I say this as a Hindu myself...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Vinnie,

I wouldn't get too upset over the comparison to Ravan. If you read Ramayan or watch it. Ramayan is a political story. Both Ram and Ravan all the other characters made mistakes. Ram's biggest was listening to gossip and rejecting Sita. It is interesting that in this show they pray to Sita. Ravan was supposed to be a very learned scholar who had the favour of all the gods and had boons from them. His biggest mistake was listening to his ego and pride. The story isn't about lies but about everyone's belief that Ram was right and supporting him and defeating Ravan. Not sure how they are going to make the parallel between Vickram and Ravan.

Vickram's dialogue to Adi on Thrusday was very interesting he said when you learn to see the lies hidden in the truth and truth hidden in lies you can come back and talk to me. I thought that was very powerful statement. Life is not all black and white it is all about different realities for different people making life actually grey. Even Ram's life and the choices he make were not all white he made some really wrong decisions as his goal was getting Sita at any cost.

Another thing I find interesting is that they are trying to show Ram leela during Janamastmi time. I am not familiar with customs of MP but where I come from Janamastmi is all about the birth of Krishna. The way I see it Krishna and his love for Radha and vise verse is a better parallel between the story of SugVi. They were not married to each other but to other people and had the one of most memorable love story in India.

Any way CVs are like chameleons that are dependent on TRPs and will change the story and what comparisons they make depending on what the TRPs dictate. Only power the audience has is watch the show or change the channel. Interesting enough there are lots of other interesting shows on TV. If you can't find that then go to the book store and find a book and forget TV all together. There is no shortage of choices!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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From the very first we know that Sugni will end up with Aditya. Please check the wikipedia, it shows Vikram is not the ram of the show. He is already married and mostly how can he do this to his wife and Sugni can't marry that guy. Hope TVS will not be a real Rawan!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Wonderful post Shell16
Another thing I find interesting is that they are trying to show Ram leela during Janamastmi time. I am not familiar with customs of MP but where I come from Janamastmi is all about the birth of Krishna. The way I see it Krishna and his love for Radha and vise verse is a better parallel between the story of SugVi. They were not married to each other but to other people and had the one of most memorable love story in India.

You got it all down. I was also given to understand that Krishna had many wives in thousands i believe (am not sure though correct me if i am wrong), but he is always called as Radha-Kishan (though he was not married to Radha), but Radha was his only love.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Thanl you guys for all your insights of the complex Character of Raavan! I will wait and watvh how they proceed this week...
I think the they are showing the Ramleela because Zee TV wants to promote thier new Show Ramayan, it has nothing to do with Janumashtmi...just a promotional stunt ...welcome to TV land!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i think comparing him to ravan is bad...but there is one thing ravan can do anything for his people who love him... even if the people dont respect him, would make they lives horrible 😛 those are two extremes of ravan ...about fans even i like tvs,think in positive way he gets to play a challeging role..if you see he did evrything to get sugi because he loves her but now if she doesnt support him he would show his other extreme😕 even in sugni part she is fighter i think this is even best for her too

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