my suspicions...n the reasons...

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Posted: 19 years ago
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hey guys,

well as i guessed all of u really lyk harry potter n so do i.....the world of magic n unbelievable things who wouldnt want to wonder off into such a world???

well ive been reading harry potter for a long tym now..even thought there r only six of them but i luv to keep reading them...b4 reaching this side of india-forums i wud only read the buks but now after seeing all the mistakes that(plz do 4give me i dun remeber the id)...has been giving i have decided to go into a further luk into all the buks...

apparently i havent been able to find the third or 2nd buk...in my house to have a close luk at them but i have been reading the first fourth n 6th buk again n again..(if u r wondering abt the 5th im starting that sum tym now)......

after going through these i have cum across certain clues as to what really caused dumbledores death n n many other things regarding the future buk...

so i decided to share the ones i remebered with u guys...cuz i want ur opinion...abt my suspcions...

(plz do excuse me for my terrible spelling)

First of all i think that dumbledore is dead...y??..well i have given then reasons b4 but to those who did not cum across it..i belive he is dead becuz for the meanwhile i will give u the reason as...after DUM died MCG tuk harry to DUM office where as it mentions in the 6th buk on pg 584 (bloomsbury)..it says....

"And now a new portrait had joined the ranks of the dead headmasters n headmistresses of Hogwarts....DUM was slumbering in a golden frame over the desk......."

So that proves that he is dead otherwise he wudnt have joined the dead headmasterss frames...

secondly even Fawkes was crying after DUM death n Flew away after he died cuz even the bird new he was dead...

now to cum to one thing to which i am a 100% sure that it has happened is the Non-betrayal of SNAPE...

As i said b4 aswell that snape has not killed DUM for Vol...y??..i have been through more n more buks n have found many clues suggesting that it was DUM n Snapes plan to have dum killed....y well ill start from the foruth buk after the regeneration of Vold

firstly after harry tells every1 that Vold has returned n after fudge has an argument with DUM...DUM gives every1 tasks to do...lyk he told hagrid to go after the giants...n he told snape sumthing which he didnt say he just said...(sorry if its not the same words)...

"Serveus u know wat to do..." or sumthing lyk that n snape went off to do sumthing which was never mentioned again...my suspicion is that DUM must have told snape to go to Vold n reunite with him n make n excuse to Vold that he was late cuz he cudnt cum infront of DUM..n he knew that Vold wud need a spy in hogwarts....n so Vold believed him....n to prove that Vold trusted snape it was mentioned in the 2nd chapter of the HBP...as Narcissa said...

"The Dark Lord trust him,doesnt he?" (pg 26)

Thus making it proven that he must have made that excuse that he had been spying in hogwarts all these years...n convinced Vold believed him..plz do remember Snape was gud at occlumency...

B4 i explain dum n snapes plans let me share sumthing else with u...as it has been said in many buks that DUM kept telling every1 abt how much he trusts snape...n after all the things he has dun still dum trusts snape n every1 thinks abt to y???even in the pensive in the foruth buk he says snape proved himself of being on dum side n that he isnt a death eater as much as i am...or sumthing lyk that...meaning that he did tell dum sumthing after which dum believes him to be on their side...

my guess n iam 90% sure as to wat it is..is that b4 joining dum snape must have been really close to dum..as it is mentioned in one of the buks i dun remeber which one..that sum death eaters knew abt the horcruxes...so snape must have been one..n im not sure 4 wat reason but snape must have seen sumthin or heard sumthin from vold that turned him against him...n so he went to dum n told dum everything..even abt the horcruxes n i believe that these were the two reasons that dum belives snape to be on their side...n iam sure that snape is the one who told dum abt the horcruxes...

n for those thinking that y did snape then kill dum...cuz snape must have planned it with dum n that argument that harry over heard in the forest proved it that dum n snape planned everything..snape must have known that malfoy wud be unable to kill dum n he must have told dum abt that part of vold plan...n so dum must have said to snape that f he was unable to kill him then snape must cuz

firstly it wud improve vold trust upon him..n secondly if he did not then he wud have to answer to vold as to where he was n no doubt vold wud becum suspicious...

so thats the reason y snape killed dum...n y wud dum want snape to be closer to vold so that vold cud tell him where the rest of the horcruxes r n so snape wud then be able to tell harry abt it...

o.k im 4getting a lot so wen im fresh ill tell u guys more but b4 leaving i wud also lyk to state one more thing although it doesnot have ny proper reason i belive that..RAB is none other then Hagrids dad..

Its just a suspicion..

y??..well u c wen hagrid was drunk in the 6th buk (wen harry is abt to take the memory off slughorn) n in the foruth buk too hagrid said that his dad was killed young...just lyk harrys dad...n then in reetars article abt hagrid she had also mentioned that hagrids mum was on vold side...i no reeters things rnt to trust but not everything she says is a lie.....so i thought that maybe i dun the hwole thing but sumhow hagrids dad also found out abt the horcruxes n probably he was the one who destroyed it...n as the note said that the person who destroyed the horcruxes died destroying it....

ontop of it it was mentioned twice that hagrids dad died young n then there was no reason given..n that too in two seperate buks...i dun think that Rowling mentioned hagrids dad for no reason....n that to in two buks....n not even his name is mentioned maybe rowling didnt want to give a lot of clues...he must have a porpose wat it is i am only guessing...

so wat r ur veiws guys??....n plz every1 share wat u think abt my suspicions n share ur own i will be posting more things i have found out...

(sorry guys i was gonna post this yesterday but my net wasnt working...i guess dum dead has been proven without the buks help...😆 but by miss rowling herself...i just saw the article)

but i am definitley sure abt two things...

1. Dumbledore is DEAD...

2.Snape is NOT a DEATH EATER...n it was all Dumbledore n snapes plan...im 90% sure this was their plan

Well im 80% sure abt snape telling dum abt the horcruxes....n 50% sure abt hagrids dad....

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Posted: 19 years ago
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I didn't read the whole thing, dear, just bits and pieces, but it's a very innovative point of view, that Dumbledore is dead, and is in on the plan with Snape....

I think I shud read it....

Will read it...

-Sam 😊 😛
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Posted: 19 years ago
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thts alot!! but i read it 😃

😆

okiee and i completely agree with u...

dumbledore is dead (though earlier i was determined he was not... but am human, minds change u know!!)

and like i said b4 and will alwayz say... Snape is INNOCENT in capital letters!! yep... he is he is he is and HE IS!!


do ignore my kiddishness 😛


thanks sana 😊
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Thnaks in a way i also think snape could be innocent coz he just i don't know but i just feel he is sumhow 😊 😕
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Posted: 19 years ago
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wow.. ur reasoning sounds good but i dont want to beleive anything right now so will not commment on snape but will definately comment tht yes i do beleive tht dumbledore is dead..

may be u r right abt snape n hagrid's dad..

lets wait n watch 😛
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Posted: 19 years ago
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Wow
that was good
I think dumbledore is dead
and snapes innocent
yea i said
lol
😃

~~~Mahak~~~
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Posted: 19 years ago
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I agree with you albeit partially......

I agree completely that Dumbeldore is Dead. Nothing you or I or for that matter anybody says is going to bring him back.

But I differ with you when you say that Snape is innocent.... To make a case in this point would like you to kindly refer to this excellent editorial by B. J.Texan on Mugglenet titled Machiavelli's Half-Blood Prince. Mr. Texan has quite rightly pointed out that Severus Snape is in this war with only one aim in mind... Gain Power, and Ensure that he at any rate survives this war between good and evil. For He is neither good nor bad.. He is in this war for pure gain...... Only his gain.. we have seen this time and again... that Snape has jumped sides whenever he has found that the Opposition is getting stronger than his allies, snd that too withg such a beautifull cunning that it would put a Fox to shame....

So I would say ... Snape is on no one's side... he is in it for himself, to gain power, to gain glory, to gain supremacy.

Tejas
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Posted: 19 years ago
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as per the latest interview of jk,DUM is definetely dead
so now i believer her,though that made me very sad...but its true
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Posted: 19 years ago
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I agree Dumbledore is dead 100 %....😭

ur suspiscion abt Hagrid' dad cud b true....

But Snape-i don think hez innocent....

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Posted: 19 years ago
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well thanks guys for the comments!!!!n hahaha...to alia!!..dun worry um a bit of a kid myself..i can act that way too so i dun mind..hehehehe 😆

Tejas a vey nice topic u gave but im affraid to say that i still stcik to wat i believ n wat i have explained...
ur site seemed nice but i have a few questions
n points id lyk to discuss..

fisrtly lyk i said my reasoning for snape n dum conversation in the forest i wud lyk to ask then wat was that all abt???

secondly a fox outside his house doesnot prove for him to be as "the prince" (um talking abt the buk)..maybe lyk how rowlings got ideas from LOTR she might have got this idea form "The prince" but it does not prove for snape to be the same as the fox described in the article...

thirdly..(b4 i forget this point)...in all the buks it has been said that dum trusts snape..n he refused to hear nything from ny of the teachers even mcgonagoll n even harry..he had soo much trust in snape....u agree with me that dum knew whi to trust n who not to..so do u think that dum wud be stupid enough to let snape teach in his skul??..n then y wud he trust snape so much??..its obvious snape must have told him sumthin which proved for him to be on dum side...this point i will discuss in my next reason

fourthly...if snape wanted gain soo much then u tell me y did he swicth to dum side b4 vold downfall??..wen vold himself didnt know that he was going to die(apparently he didnt but u get wat u mean)...so how do u think snape found out that he ran to dum..its obvious snape must of found out sumthing abt vold or vold might have dun sumthing to snape that caused him to change sides...n thats y he stayed with dum....

the next point id lyk to discuss is in my opinion niether side is stronger then the other..it is impossible to diffrentiate with which side is stronger just by saying it we have no proof..

n still belive he hasnt changed to vold side n that he is not on either side
SNAPE is NOT a DEATH EATER!

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