Is it ok to test Godess Parvati again and again?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Since last 2 weeks,we have been seeing Shiv testing Parvati in some way or the other.Now he has assigned this job to the saptarishis to test her.The explanation which Shiv gave is Parvati has still a few impurities as she is born a human.
I have few questions.
1.Don't u think it's an insult to a Godess if she is tested again and again?
2.If Parvati/Sati were impure just because they were born as humans then were Ram and Krishna also impure?But then we never saw their impurities.So why are Adishakti's avatars impure?
3.Are the saptarishis and Rishi Dadichi more purer than Parvati that they were assigned the job of testing the Godess herself?I mean,human beings testing God!Shocking!
Please someone answer my questions.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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first of all/ how can you even compare sati/parvati with ram or krishna? krishna avatar was a complete avatar of lord vishnu. he was aware of who he is unlike parvati or sati. ram on the other hand also knew who he is. just to set a benchmark of a perfect son, husband and brother he did not use his powers unlike krishna. there is no comparison here between ram or krishna and sati or parvati. sati/parvati, both were/are unaware of their powers or who they really are. well if you have watched this show from beginning you would know that sati was impulsive and impatient which was one of the reasons for her tragic end. she had little patience for what mahadev is doing and why he is doing. she had a certain arrogance and ego which led to her making so many rash and bad decisions. mahadev was trying his best even after their marriage to train her to recognize her trueself but she was too human to understand the importance of that. parvati is actually better coz she has patience and she does not quit easily like sati did. u remember that dialogue when shiv opened his eyes and he said to parvati that she is exactly like sati.

3) considering parvati is still human, there is nothing wrong in rishis taking her test. so many times rishis have given shraps to even Gods, so why is this shocking? considering shiv himself has given them this task, it is shiv who is testing parvati and not the rishis. they are only a medium. testing parvati is very necessary so that history does not repeat itself. if there is an ounce of human behavior left in parvati, she would not be able to fulfill her duties as a Goddess after marriage leading a lot of problems between shiv and her. understanding shiv is not easy and by staying human, parvati can never truly understand him. sorry for the long post.😊
Edited by john909 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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John909 gives really very great answer - I really agree to what he/she says.

But I also just wanted to say I think your questions are really good too. It does at first seem strange to think ki, here is one avatar (Sati, or Parvati)...here is another (Sri Ram, for example) - how is it they behave so differently? Underneath your questions i was wondering if perhaps there was the question of whether we think of them differently due to whether they are female or male.

But really i don't think this is it, as if you look carefully at Mata Laxmi's avatar of Sita, you will see she is very very different from Sati or Parvati in her approach both to life and to her partner. The same might be said for Radha or Rukhmini.

So I don't think so it would be gender, as Sri Ram and Sitaji are both examples of true divine avatars, completely aware of their powers but choosing to take life as human beings to set examples.

Whereas Parvati and Sati are existing as it were in a fog where they cannot see or remember clearly. Yugs had passed since Shivji had allowed Adishakti to be ripped from himself; the births of Sati and Parvati were in response to a plea from the gods for Adishakti to once more take birth for he good of the universe. She had not disappeared (impossible) - she had just not taken physical form. If they had not made this plea we might wonder how much longer we would have had to wait for Shivji to become grihast and take his ardhangani back to himself.

It is all leela.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Shiva sending Saptarshis to test Parvathi is the way it is narrated in Shiv Purana
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Posted: 13 years ago
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You need to understand that all these Puranas were written when the patriarchal society was at its peak..and women and their contribution has mostly always been controlled in most of our scriptures.

This is a feeble attempt to hide the truth that Shiva and Shakti are the only two entities that make up God.That is natural...rest is mostly distortions made in a medieval India.

The only part I liked was when Shivji said that Parvatiji's tapasya would be his own tapasya. And come to think of it he has been performing real hard tapa since Sati died and Parvati emerged in her true form. They both have been giving tests to prove their love for each other. That is the way I look at it. And I feel that Shivji and Parvatiji would both be equally desirous of their reunion.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I saw impurities in Ram's way of behaving. Not trusting his wife just to set an example of being maryada purushottam. If he had trusted Sita ji after that whole episode and not asked for agnipariksha, things might have been very different for women in this country. Also who listens to a commoner and leaves his wife? If you as a King, you cannot trust your own queen so whats the use of being a King?
Krishna was the whole purna avatar with no loopholes in his character. Well, he did elope with Rukhmini but then it was consensual so...LOL
As far as Sati/Parvathi is concerned, I agree with most that have been proposed her by the others.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ritika Also I guess Rishi Dadhichi and others may have a right to put a test before Ma Parvati since he was her first Guru. Just like Lord Ram had his own gurus who had trained him in his youth and could test him too.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Saptarishis testing paravti is part of the Shiv Puran.

Devi Puarn mentions both Sati & Parvati as divine , who knew their power. The journey of Parvati shown in the show is considering her as human is good too. This is the journey of a Jeev who wishes to unite with Shiv, passing through various stages of purification & Tapasya.
First Shatchakras of body are to be crossed, crossing 6th chakra gives an abilty to see past, present & future, so Paravti was able to see her past. It also allowed her to see beyond what is visible to 2 eyes & judge on a Univerasal level what her next step should be . That's the quality of the Divine mother to see every one as part of the Universal system & act in their betterment. So this entire test process is an evolution of not only to prove her yogyata but also as Aadya Shakti, who cares for everyone, which is the best quality of God.
This journey of from being human to God is not easy to portray. She can be shown just sitting in meditation for a long time. But showing her gradual growth weaving many spiritual aspects is commendable.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Selvina_05

I saw impurities in Ram's way of behaving. Not trusting his wife just to set an example of being maryada purushottam. If he had trusted Sita ji after that whole episode and not asked for agnipariksha, things might have been very different for women in this country. Also who listens to a commoner and leaves his wife? If you as a King, you cannot trust your own queen so whats the use of being a King?

Krishna was the whole purna avatar with no loopholes in his character. Well, he did elope with Rukhmini but then it was consensual so...LOL
As far as Sati/Parvathi is concerned, I agree with most that have been proposed her by the others.


Shri Ramji had always trust Sitaji. Sitaji that was kidnapped by Ravan was not actual Sita. He is Maryada Purshottam who even can't stand with Chaaya. So in order , not revel the truth, he tell Chaaya Sita to move in the Fire so that Actual Sita can come.

Ramji never listens to the Common people and left Sitaji. Sitaji herself left Ayodhya. How can a women leave in that place where her people have doubts abut her character. So she left the crown of Queen and went to forest. She is that lady for whom self-respect is more than her life.

When Sitaji left Ramji, Ramji started living a life of common man. He sleeps on ground, doesn't eat Raaj-bhoj.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: john909

first of all/ how can you even compare sati/parvati with ram or krishna? krishna avatar was a complete avatar of lord vishnu. he was aware of who he is unlike parvati or sati. ram on the other hand also knew who he is. just to set a benchmark of a perfect son, husband and brother he did not use his powers unlike krishna. there is no comparison here between ram or krishna and sati or parvati. sati/parvati, both were/are unaware of their powers or who they really are. well if you have watched this show from beginning you would know that sati was impulsive and impatient which was one of the reasons for her tragic end. she had little patience for what mahadev is doing and why he is doing. she had a certain arrogance and ego which led to her making so many rash and bad decisions. mahadev was trying his best even after their marriage to train her to recognize her trueself but she was too human to understand the importance of that. parvati is actually better coz she has patience and she does not quit easily like sati did. u remember that dialogue when shiv opened his eyes and he said to parvati that she is exactly like sati.


3) considering parvati is still human, there is nothing wrong in rishis taking her test. so many times rishis have given shraps to even Gods, so why is this shocking? considering shiv himself has given them this task, it is shiv who is testing parvati and not the rishis. they are only a medium. testing parvati is very necessary so that history does not repeat itself. if there is an ounce of human behavior left in parvati, she would not be able to fulfill her duties as a Goddess after marriage leading a lot of problems between shiv and her. understanding shiv is not easy and by staying human, parvati can never truly understand him. sorry for the long post.😊



There are fundamental wrong assumptions in the post,

1) Rama and Krishna are avatars of Lord Vishnu, while parvati is Goddess Adishakti herself, you should not apply vaishnavaite notion of avatars for mata parvati, this is the reason i said shaivism and vaishnavism are incompatible with each other.

2) As Far as testing is considered it is only to enlighten the world regarding the many things, things shown in the tests may seem trivial in this age of information but these tests formed the basis for moral deductions in ancient times.

3) Sati and Parvati are adishakti herself and not some avatar as shown in DKDM, also sati was born to bind shiva to this world which she successfully accomplished by creating shaktipeethas
where shiva resides with her. Parvati was born to marry mahadev and to permanently initiate
him into worldly affairs which she did.

DKDM can write umpteen number of fantasies regarding testing of parvati, but viewers are advised not take what is ahown to be literally true. they have long deviated from scriptures so lets not make assumptions based what is being shown.

Finally it is ridiculous to compare Rama and Krishna with Mata Parvati, who are distinctly from different traditions and philosophical background. people should either do the study in this regard or refrain from such posts which could be highly misleading.

Yes it is insulting for goddess to be shown in that manner, shiva is nothing with out shakti and vice versa, in this serial particularly it is shown that shiva is consistently on moral high ground while sati/parvati are shown ayogya manushya etc which is blatantly biased depiction and factually incorrect

regards
Krishna

Edited by kkr531 - 13 years ago

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