Caste System, Education and Reservations

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Do we dare to discuss this topic?

Purva

@-Purva-

Dazzler

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Posted: 13 years ago

I feel that there should be an objective discussion around the issue of Reservations, since it ties in with Caste System. My perspective on the subject underwent a sea change after today's show, so there are certain things I want to discuss and resolve within myself.

However, I'm not sure if there can be complete objectivity around it, so am creating this poll. For the moment, not taking in any replies to the poll, because, that would be allowing someone to post inflammatory comments derailing the entire conversation. If the majority of the members feel that there should be a discussion around it, then we can create a separate topic for it - Tomorrow.

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https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/satyamev-jayate/3082046/caste-system-education-and-reservations-discuss

Edited by Chitrashi - 13 years ago

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Posted: 13 years ago

ya of course there shud b a discussion on dis topic coz whenever d issue of caste system arises, d issue of reservations follows it...

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Purva

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Posted: 13 years ago

Ok since most of those who voted are in favor of the discussion and also the topic of reservations has been raised in other threads, perhaps we should discuss it at length. My personal take on it:

The purpose for which Reservations were designed still remain unchanged at the grassroots level. Mid-day meals are still denied to the children from the poorer families - who stand in greater need of the scheme. The children from the Dalit classes are still discriminated against. Without raising the topic of Reservations overtly, Amir seemed to show the necessity of it by showing us the reality of the schools.

I mentioned in another thread that today's episode forced me to rethink a lot of things. One f them was my stand on Reservations. I used to be against them. Today's episode made me realize how necessary they are.

Without the reservations, those girls would not be allowed inside the schools even. Someday, these girls are going to bring that change in our society.

That boy who refused to eat at school, because he was made to sit separately - he's the one who is going to lead the change in his village 10 years down the line.

The boy who left school because he was asked to clean toilets is going to force the society to accept him.

These are the children who have the spark in them and the guts to change status quo. We cannot deny them the opportunity to come out of that morass.

Yes we bemoan the cost of the system on the overall education standards. But tell me - there are no reservations in St.Stephens College (Delhi University) - ye the cut-off percentage there is always 97%+ even for an arts course. Delhi School of Economics has a cut off percentage of 97.5% for commerce stream. We do not blame the shortage of seats in these institutes as due to reservations. We blame the Engineering and Medical colleges for shortage of seats and hold reservations solely responsible for the problem.

Can the problem not be because of the high population? Can it not be because there are only so many premier institutions and only so many seats there?

Today every aspirant for Engineering wants a seat in IIT Delhi or IIT Bombay. Why not the others? Nearly 5 lakh students appeared for IIT-JEE in 2012. Out of these students only 24,112 have secured ranks and 17,642 have been shortlisted for counseling for admission to 9647 seats. Calculate the percentage. Now every student from Kashmir to Kanyakumari believes that they should get admission in one of the two IITs and if they don't, they blame reservations for it.

Face it guys, life is tough. If as a semen you had to fight millions to make it to the seed, what makes you think life is going to be easy outside the womb? Life didn't promise to be fair or to fulfill all your dreams. No one did.

If you find it difficult without that degree from the best IIT, then think of the student who swept the toilets in his school, missed the meal, wasn't allowed to drink water from the school tap, trudged to school everyday in a torn uniform and tattered shoes and still made it, despite all these hardships to study and appear for these exams. The rich students have recourse to coaching classes and expensive study aids, these students more often than not still don't have electricity at home even.

Edited by Chitrashi - 13 years ago