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sunshine99

@sunshine99

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Posted: 13 years ago

#11

Truth... a sharp knife that cuts through one's own fallacy. Truth is elusive... truth is catharsis... Three players in the game of truth and everyone believes they have the correct interpretation...

Arnav's quest of truth of Khushi's words and actions got their answers...he hoped to hear her innocence ...he heard it... he needed her justification...he received it... did he believe it...NO...he chose to ignore it and will put up a hard fight to not acknowledge it. The realization that your presumed just action is unholy and unjust...is tough to reconcile...the truth has cut through his misconceptions...he just needs to stop running away and face it...

The truth still eludes Shyam -

Khushi is a mirage of his unfulfilled wishes... the more he tries to posses it the farther it goes away from him...

Easy money comes and goes easily...

Khushi's effort on knowing the truth behind her marriage has borne fruit... the fruit was not sweet but bitter to swallow... it had a catharsis effect...all her pent up emotions and secrets came out... her burden is now lighter...she has her work cut out... alleviate Arnav's hurt.

Note to writers-

A simple villain who finds it hard to concentrate whether he wants the girl , money or both does nothing for spicing up the show... the villainy needs an urgent face lift in the act.

I know you guys believe that Khushi can do anything... but it is not equivalent to becoming anything... you cannot give her a strong character and then rob her of it in the next instance...

MU's can be interesting and intriguing might I suggest you ask your viewers for some good ideas... we will oblige free of cost without issues of copyright thrown in.😊

Please maintain a decent storyline and characters... lets leave the roller coaster ride to the amusement parks.. eh?

Barun and Sanaya loved watching you on screen today...nothing much beyond that.

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Doods:I am running short of adj... to describe today's post."The story started with Anjali's belief and Arnav's disbelief in love and will end with Anjali's disbelief and Arnav's belief in love."⭐️ 👏👏👏

Anna- character sketch of arnav, khush i and Shyam beautifully explained.

Mommamia- nice quotes.

Ankifan- nice precap of today's epi and I totally sceond u on this "I wanted to give a jhappi to this girl after their face off and also a whack to the same girl when she went to shyam for help".

Nia: Your delving s into the psyche of our idiotic lovebirds was fantastic.

Shweta!- enjoyed the rants and rave combo !

Lizzy2012- interesting and profound thought👏... universal truth is compact and complete ...the sun rises in the east... but there are truths which are still true but are personal and not universal and they cannot be discounted... the personal truths of arnav

,Khushi and Shyam are coming out but they are not falsehoods nor an universal truth.

Payasa: arnav and Khusi's emotions captured beautifully.

Arhimaniac: story of the wise crab ties so perfectly with Khushi's actions...👏

Shreya: udasi aur bebasi mein doobi hui lafz khushi ke gamo ko taro taza kar gayein

Edited by sunshine99 - 13 years ago

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shreya_l

@shreya_l

Dazzler

Posted: 13 years ago

#12

Ranj hai apki aisi hai soch, mujhe hai behad afsos

Kabil nahin aap ki main kuch kahoon, nisbat nahi na-pak itna hai mujhe sukoon

Kyun nahi kiya pehle yeh jawaab haasil?

Hum hain beech bahr, ab bahut door hai saahil...

Khauf_zadaa dil ne nahi dikhayi himmat, varna sunani nahin padti itni ihaanat!!

Fareb se toda etebaar, yeh keh sunyai apni dastaan...

Neeyat par jo humein hota thoda bhi gumaan, kareeb hi nahi aata woh insaan.

Pyaar nahin nafrat hai jaroor, saath nahin maut hai humein manzoor.

Yaad ne baandhi hai dil par zanjeer, pathar par jaise bana di ho tasveer.

Shayad tumne theek se suna nahin, begunaah to tum bhi nahin.

Kis tareh shaq ka kaala saaya ho gaya hai haavi, siyaah ho gayi jaise aaftaab ki roshni!

Apni begunahi ke saboot kahan se main laaon?

Apni bekasoori ka main kasie yaqeen dilaon...

Itna sab jaan kaise bani rahi anjaan, kyun nahi bataya ki woh hai ek haivaan!

Jis buniyaad par hai mahal khadaa, woh bharosa hai khokhla...

Deemag jaise kha leta hai lakdi, jindagi vaise ho jaati khaali...

Kaise ummeedon par deti pani fer, khushiyan ho jaati raakh ka dher...

Shayad shaq ki dhundh ne liya hai gher, par sacchayi se rahe ho muh fer...

Jhoot ka naya nahi pulinda, yahan par khatm hota nahi yeh mudda!

Jurm ban gayi hai khamoshi, koi hall nahi hai bas hai bekasii...

Tohmaton ki jab lagi ho bauchar, dil sisak ke reh jata hai har baar...

[Ranj = Grief, Bahr = Sea, Afsos = Regret, Kabil = Capable/deserving, Nisbat = Relation, Na-pak = Impure, Sukoon = Relief, Haasil = Get, Bahr = Sea, Saahil = Sea Shore,

Khauf-zadaa = Frightened, Ihaanat = Contempt/insult,

Fareb = Deceit, Etebaar = Trust, Dastaan = Story, Neeyat = Character, Gumaan = Doubt, Kareeb = Close, Jaroor = Definitely, Manzoor = Agreeable,

Zanjeer = Chain, Tasveer = Picture, Begunaah = Innocent, Shaq = Doubt,

Haavi = Overpower, Siyaah = Black, Aaftaab = Sun, Saboot = Evidence,

Bekasoor = Without fault, Yaqeen = Belief/Faith,

Anjaan = Unknown, Haivaan = Licentious,

Buniyaad = Foundation, Bharosa = Trust, Khokhala = Hollow, Deemag = Termite, Ummeed = Hope, Raakh = Ash, Dher = Dump, Dhundh = Fog, Gher = Surround,

Pulinda = Bundle, Yahan = Here, Khatm = End, Mudda = Issue,

Jurm = Crime, Khamoshi = Silence, Hall = Solution, Bekasii = Helplessness,

Tohmat = Accusation, Bauchar = Torrent, Sisak = Sniffle]

Hi Everyone!

Tanthya, Supna, vimmiya, Nia, Ria, Slmu & Lizzy replied on pg 99 of yesterday's Redux. Check if time permits! & Thanks to all who have continued to like my posts.

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SunoNa123

@SunoNa123

Sparkler

+ 5

Posted: 13 years ago

#13

Today's epi i have mixed feelings😆 face off stood out for me.. There were flaws in the epi yet story moved on..

First of all kudos to Barun, Sanaya, Abhas , they were totally in character today.. good acting

Kushi cleared most of the things about Shyam that she had hidden all the while from Arnav, that he was her PG, her fiance and how she broke up with him and left Arnav at shock.. The pain by SI and shock by BS was beautifully portrayed.. Arnav believes her part of the story , Arnav is totally torn between his heart and mind, the terrace Fb runs in his mind always and he clears his state by telling her what he saw and heard in terrace , now Kushi totally knows what he saw and what he heard.. The clenched jaws , he even hates saying what he saw, he hates saying that he saw her in other man's arms.. he questions her rightly why did u let my di worship a bigamist , why dint u tell me truth, why dint u scream and tell everyone about shyam , Kushi bends her head down that moment she got a glimpse of her mistake then that she hid something huge. She says him that she did to save his di which is true..

"chap gaya hai wo pal mere dimag main jab maine tumhe aur usse"

Beautiful dialogue !! This explained why he could never forget that terrace hug and why it kept haunting him day in and day out.. He is so so hurt , he cant even take the other guys name in whose embrace he saw his girl.. It hurts him, its breaks him, he is stuck their, he is nt able to move beyond that..

His reactions today clearly tld he believes this girl deeply inside , he loves her like crazy, he wants her to prove his thinking wrong, he wants her to speak up everything and give proper justification to what ever mess she has gt into, he himself doesnt realize that he believes her , his conscious mind is not able to take over his subconscious mind which believes her.. The terrace FB has attacked his mind like a virus..

He is so miffed with her, he is so so angry that she dint tell him anything about all these until now, the expressions clearly said he buyed what she said but err he is ASR he has to use his reverse psychology to get away frm that situation, he wants Kushi to come out clean totally now.. Their is no more disgust in him towards her, their is anger now..

He addressed her as singh raizada here, this guy has absolutely no intention of letting her go after 6 months and neither does this girl has any intention of getting freed frm him after 6 months, they want to be with each other, damn these two idiots 😆

he has always known she aint gold digger yet the only thing he uses to get away frm his how mask coming down is taunt her with this...

Arnav has believed Kushi but he will not acknowledge it until he sees things frm his own eyes again.. He believes and acknowledges only what he sees and hears..

Kushi knew Arnav dint take out her wrath on her family while he stayed along with them, he kept his issues with her private and never took out his anger in them, i still would hv accepted Kushi approaching Bua and Garima, Arnav temper was nt a convincing enough reason to me as she has his temper control already after he has put up with all her nautankis..

Had Kushi knew the real Arnav she wud hv understand his actions today, this girl does hv a lot of understanding to do about her man, she needs to love ASR then only she will love Arnav for that she needs to learn her man, she needs to read her man..

For once i m nt angry at all with kushi after long time, i hv always said she should come out clean no matter he believes her or nt, but frm her side she needs to come out clean as she is nt entirely innocent her, she is a part of the mess, bth Arnav and Kushi are equals here.

Shyam-Arnav-Kushi scene..

The war is ON now..

All these days Kushi was unaware that Arnav knows about Shyam, Arnav was unaware of how Shyam trapped gupta's and was Kushi's fiance the PG guy, Shyam was unaware that Kushi knows Why Arnav married her.. Now everyone are aware of the other..

The GAME is gonna get interesting further..

She again almost slipped out near Shyam that her heart beats for only Arnav but she stopped.. This girl will not sit until she earns Arnav's trust back, she cannot digest the fact that he thinks so low of her , she knows her hiding the truth has made a huge blow in her relation , in their trust, in their love..

Kushi Kushi Kushi ab main kya boloon.. 😆 The girl who prefers death than being her name be linked with the creep goes and asks him for help..wah wah shabhash, ur really better off when u dnt put ur thinking caps on kushi!!😆

Bth in her conscious and subconscious state she finally spoke up near Shyam

Shyam the cunning fellow used the opportunity rightly..

wud reserve my comments on this if she will take the papers or nt😆

I wanted to give a jhappi to this girl after their face off and also a whack to the same girl when she went to shyam for help😆

Shyam

Wow Shyam was in a position where he has to choose himself or Kushi today, and without a second thought he chose himself..

Special Mention:

This is solely for Barun.. ⭐️

How quickly, smootly, and beautifully does barun change his expressions from a raging ASR to the head over heels in love with Kushi's Arnav to the wounded chote ..

Wow wow wow.. ASR so wanted Kushi to answer for the betrayal she gave him , for the betrayal she gave to Anjali, and Arnav so so wanted her to speak up and say that his thinking is wrong, her silence meant he is right he so dint wanted to be right here, After she speaks the truth Arnav so so wanted to know why dint she tell him about it before , she dint find him near at all to share it with him, she pushed him away by nt considering him to be someone with whom she could she could share this..

Even though their is so much of rage as ASR , their is so much of calmness as Arnav..

The transitions he makes frm ASR to Arnav to chote is fantastic..

How beautifully he portrays the heart Vs mind conflicts 👏

Random Thought's:

1. Nani, Anjali, Mami.. they dnt realize any tension between Kushi and Arnav, none noticed.. It was like as if they hv had a argument..

2. Send bubbli away to some lonely forest area plz No, not anymore, i cannot tolerate this kid anymore , and which channel did payal switch on??😉😆

3. Shyam gt so much of screen time😲 Has LM come back😆

4. Kushi now just cant live with the thought's that Arnav thinks of her in a low light, she now knows the reason for his anger will she now go out of her way to earn his trust and love back..

Note to CV's:

As much as Arnav needs to earn Kushi's love and trust , same way Kushi also needs to earn Arnav's love and trust.. As much Arnav need's to repent and redeem for his behavior with Kushi, even Kushi has to repent and redeem herself..

Bth have been equals just their treatment has been different.

And i really hope u guys (CV's) are nt trying to create another MU with this kushi getting trapped in shyams plan track.. lets get over with this MAHA MU first😡

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sanjanaarshi

@sanjanaarshi

Dazzler

+ 6

Posted: 13 years ago

#14

What a title !!
Loved it !!

And now I am hooked to this thread ! 😆

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284462

Suspended

Posted: 13 years ago

#15

Edited:

First reaction, the usual anger disappointment.

Yesterday they elevated Khushi's status with self respect and today they mercilessly pushed her down taking her brains away.😡😭
😭😡
I won't elaborate much on Khushi or the fact that the Raizada family couldn't decipher from Arnav & Khushi's demeanor who looked liked as if they had just fought off 100 dementors and barely survived continued their Blindness when it comes to Arnav and Khushi and were on full teasing joking mode😳

Loads of Rant and then What if?😈 (I will probably be eating my words here, it wouldn't be the first time when it comes to this show and so here goes🤣)

2 things stood out for me today, Arnav called her KKGSR, not Khushi, not KKG....And If I remember correctly, he called her after hearing out her explanation, so the doubts are clearing slowly. The first blow to the MU wall has been made.

Second was the very odd, I know how hard it will be for anyone to lose the riches respect associated with a Raizada, anyone who is mad will let go of that.

Odd dialogue I thought for a guy who just told her minutes ago he is going to throw her out in 6 months.

Either a goof up or Arnav Singh Raizada is making one last attempt to make Khushi stay , You don't love me fine, but You will gain loads by staying married to me.

He still can't let her go. He thought it would have been easy, it is not.

Arnav once again Oddly keeps quiet when Shyam openly hits on Khushi, as if watching and hearing Shyam from a whole different perspective this time in favor of Khushi.

Are we in for some clever bit of writing in the days ahead or the usual yawn-worthy stuff, time will tell.

Back to the usual rants:😆

Khushi is desperate and resorts to desperate measures thinking Shyam will help her out *Head Desk*

She can read English, All she has to do is read the damn thing. And why the hell will Arnav sign some random papers just cos she asks him to especially now?

Why didn't she say to Shyam, fine you come with me, I will ask him to sign the papers and you can tell him the truth in person?

I would have preferred if she had tried to convince of her own.

Didn't she say to him moments ago, why don't you ask my family then why didn't she let him ask her family.

She does not want them to know 6 months clause, what will she explain to them when he throws her out after 6 month.

OH no, ASR you don't get off easy too, What the hell stopped you from verifying Khushi's claims?

Why didn't you try to tally what she was saying, Oh wait you wanted something for time pass when you will be kidnapped.😕

WORST THING OF ALL , When Shyam was just hitting on your wife infront of everyone and you kept quiet. What the hell is stopping you from saying, JEEEJAAJAI, Khushi meri Patni hai, Usskay aas paas ya door say LINE MAARNEY ki koshish bhi mat karna.

Yo Bitwa, you gave a chance to Shyam despite him telling you he does not love your Di and when the girl you married, you love/hate/whatever tells you she hates Shyam, you CAN'T GIVE HER A CHANCE?

DO you realize Bitwa, this is the Fourth time you have pushed Khushi towards Shyam cos of your anger and stupidity -

First Lucknow where Shyam saved her.
Second Delhi - She turned to Shyam for job cos she wanted to pay for your car.
Third DIWALI - Forced engagement.
Fourth NOW - She again turns to Shyam for help.

Rant over😆

CVs...I know you guys are busy with multiple shows, you can forget who Khushi is, We the viewers have not. STOP Messing with her.

Give us something good, if Hired Goons are in the picture, ASR is most likely to get out of their clutches by offering to pay them triple the amount they were promised and not wait for his biwi to rescue him. (Unless of course Shyam has managed to get hold of some Sanskaari Goondas whose principles are Paisay jaayay par Vachan na jaaye.)

Anything is possible in this show.😕😆

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Newbiesoapfan

@Newbiesoapfan

Sparkler

+ 4

Posted: 13 years ago

#16

Three cheers to Sathya and doods for their wonderful analysis! Check all their posts in the last 3 weeks and they have provided us the direction that the CVs are taking us with today's episode.

Thanks Sathya and doods for the analysis before and today . Wheels within wheels and wheeling and dealing ... what a wonderful web the CVs are weaving . Hope that the ultimate prey Shyam lands in the web and gets exposed.

Doods and Sathya - so Khushi has made this move in order to draw out Shyam and expose his real intentions ... and that will happen on the terrace and that move will make sure he is completely ruined...wonderful!

I have quoted both of you in other posts -- I remembered doods and sathya on the chess moves - sathya had said that Khushi would be the pawn that becomes a queen ... and am so happy that doodleberry went back to strategy today... what would we do without you both !

Congrats once again on your analysis... sometimes that is all that helps us survive mindless ( for IQs like mine ) episodes:-)

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dramebaaz.af

@dramebaaz.af

Sparkler

+ 6

Arshi Analyzers

Posted: 13 years ago

#17

What a brilliant episode!! Three days in a row and the intensity remains on the same peak! It doesn't shift higher nor lower! Kudos to the creatives, director and the whole cast and crew for putting in all the efforts.

Since post Holi, the track was progressing on a snail pace with the building of trust. Khushi lost her trust in Arnav while he gained the trust back however once crumpled, it can never be same as before!

now coming to today's episode,

started from where it left! She narrated the whole story of how everything had happened, but not from the start! She was suppose to tell him and clear the misconceptions but it'll be Bua ji who'll narrate the whole story from the days of Lucknow to the finale in Delhi.

Kudos to BS for pulling off each reaction perfectly! The way his eyes had popped at the mention that she was forcibly engaged to Shyam. Loved it! Every bit of it!

A person's mind believes what they want to believe. It takes a specific span of time for the truth to absorb in a person's mind. "aur kabhi mere dimag se jaye ga nahi, mushkil hai." -loved this dialogue! the worst fear haunt our lives rather then the beautiful dreams. Today we are proved that even though Arnav remembers the holi confssion why doesn't that piece of memory play a major role in coming back. Only the though of losing her had haunted him and imagine, seeing the love of his life in somebody's arms had caused him to die a million deaths.

Not only he had assumed her to be in love with that man but that man was none other then the only person he idolized after his Di. Shyam has been a father figure for Arnav. He was a person Arnav used to look out for when he needed any advice. The terrace scene is etched in his mind and it wouldn't be removed until the very end. NK's camera would play a good role in this when he makes a re-entry!

Payal and Akash step in. Arnav asked Akash that does he really think he would be able to spend his entire life with Payal or not and Akash was too much positive about it. Today he once again proved that his trust in Payal is not even an ounce.

Once the truth comes out, he will be with Khushi but he won't be with Payal at all! That day on the havan when he promised not to hide anything he made it sure but Payal didn't disclose it and she was guilty about it.

Its the decision of being silent that will cost both the Gupta sisters there relationship with their husbands. Today when Arnav asked Khushi why she remained quite, her eyes bowed down in guilt because somewhere deep down she was scared of Arnav's reaction for the truth. if only she had trusted him on the day she broke her engagement with Shyam, things would have been smoother. She trusted him enough to use his shoulder but she didn't trust him enough to share her secrets with him and that was the day when the line of their differences grew stronger.

Payal's decision to be with her family in this secret will cost her Aaksh's anger in future.

Things have started to heat up. it was Payal who noticed Khushi uneasiness when Shyam directly confronted her. I always said that Payal will play a crucial role in this mis understanding and today we just got a glimpse of it.

The truth had sunken in now. It wasn't absorbed on the terrace, not on the road but in the bedroom away from everything. Last time, it was Diwali when the truth sunk in inside Khushi when she shut herself inside the bedroom and cried her heart out. It wasn't on the door when Lavanya brought her back in, not on the doorsteps of her house and neither in car. This time too, like last time, she pretended to put up a happy face like last time. Remember how she offered everyone sweets at Arnav and Lavanya's finally tying a knot in Diwali. This time again there were sweets and a happy Khushi

This is Khushi and accept her for who she is. She doesn't sit empty handed even for a second. The person she loves the most doubts her honor and this isn't a dumb Khushi, its a desperate Khushi! Desperate to get her lover back! She carves for love and Arnav is the only one who could give her enough love.

Shyam is playing his game again. If its the file we all think is the bait then Shyam is trapped in his own labyrinth.

thats it from me!

Wonderful episode!! Loved it to bits!

Edited by areeba_blossom - 13 years ago

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payasa

@payasa

Voyager

Posted: 13 years ago

#18

Lovely episode...

He was crying out his heart...why khushi?..why ?... When u had the answers for all the problems in the world, then why not for this...he wants her to say what he saw,what he thought was all a nightmare..not real...she comes out with the truth...he believes it, he is relieved...though momentarily...then the reality dawns...she was in the arms of another man without the hint of resistance from her...

Now how can that be real..when being in relationship gupta's havenot shown any slightest hints of whatever happened..how can such ugly truth, as important as this can be hid from the simple good hearted gupta's also?...he cant bring himself to believe that...it was easy for him to dismiss...

somewhere in the corner of the heart he believed her...only wanting confirmation for which he is only one step away...

khushi...

for only if you understood him ..!

for if u cud understand how much he fears to hear from you that you love somebody else ...not him, (when u asked him why he did not ask you there n then, for he believed you loved shyam'.)

for only if u understood that it's not about whether he deserved to be told or not, it's not about the egos hurting..,..it's about a truth that needs to be told to the persons involved...that cud cost them the life...

For how much he longes you to be his...

For how much he hates it when another person tries to remind him that you don't belong to him..!

Khushi ( SI) I loved you when you said arnav was busy there too... to raizada family at rm.. with a small smile...a withdrawn smile...that reflected her present state of mind...

I liked this sensible girl...

Even after knowing that how cunning shyam is...It is understandable when she goes to him to clear the air of misunderstanding...becoz that is the only option left for her, which she wanted to give a try...

( at this stage, it's quite logical not to involve gupta's----if--involved----then gupta ladies act becomes questionable... (though shyams role is to blame)... They entered in to a new relationship with raizada's on the poor foundation of mistrust. Their act as elders becomes unpardonable in hiding the truth...marriage is not only bonding of two persons but two families... something that has to be built on trust,love... If he comes to know that even gupta elders hid the vital information ,( a kind of storm)... it may be hard for him to forgive them ...and even for akash... this may have repurcations on payal also...

Even if he remains silent for anjali's sake, he cud never be able to forgive gupta's...)

SHYAM

you don't know how much i love you since the beginning''..

today you were at your best'''

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peppygeek

@peppygeek

Voyager

Posted: 13 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: --Anna--

So she conveniently AGAIN forgets Payal and to confide to her (which is the biggest mistake she continues to make time and again and that is why its difficult to relate to her) she forgets that she can take him back to GH and get the whole thing confirmed - but she decides to go and ask Shyam for help (wow! How intelligent!).

I can see another reason for Arnav to doubt Khushi and this time it will be totally Khushi's fault - completely 'Aa bail mujhe maar' situation.

I completely agree with you here. Why would you go back to a person for help when you know he's going to dupe you? What made Khushi think Shyam out of all people will help her? I mean CVs need to explain this logic to me. Khushi is distressed and completely broken and she KNOWS she love Arnav more than her life. But has her brain cells stopped working here?

Another thing,if Khushi does give the damned file to Arnav in her stupidity,why will Shyam kidnap Arnav? Something is not adding up.

Intensity is back with some force. What were the CVs thinking? Bringing it back 5 days before you make Arnav disappear from screen? We were moving at a snail pace till last Friday,now the CVs is making us ride a bullet train!

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showstruck

@showstruck

Rocker

Posted: 13 years ago

#20

wow...Doodle you always said khushi will ask Arnav you could have asked me once...and she did say it twice today...I am so sure now we will see another terrace confrontation.

Just one question...so you do think Khushi will get Arnav to sign the documents?

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