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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: pgm7


I completely agree with you here. Why would you go back to a person for help when you know he's going to dupe you? What made Khushi think Shyam out of all people will help her? I mean CVs need to explain this logic to me. Khushi is distressed and completely broken and she KNOWS she love Arnav more than her life. But has her brain cells stopped working here?

Another thing,if Khushi does give the damned file to Arnav in her stupidity,why will Shyam kidnap Arnav? Something is not adding up.

Intensity is back with some force. What were the CVs thinking? Bringing it back 5 days before you make Arnav disappear from screen? We were moving at a snail pace till last Friday,now the CVs is making us ride a bullet train!


I fail to understand Khushi most of the time! I think she is not seeing for who Shyam actually is and that is why she sought his help! I mean he is the reason for all this crap and she goes to him to sort it out!? She is bringing it on herself this time - one cannot blame Arnav for THIS at the very least!

She will - there was a pic with Arnav angry at her and she trying to stop him. I think Shyam has realized that Khushi has feelings for Arnav - now by giving her the file - he will manage to make Khushi fall low in Arnav's eyes. Arnav obviously would not understand and hence the rift will grow.

I am glad the story is moving at a fast pace - I have a feeling by June 6th - the anniversary the whole truth will be in front of Arnav! 😊
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Anna loved your post
and this is for you for dedicating the 1st part to ASR 🤗 🤗

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Posted: 13 years ago
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I was late posting on the last IP Redux- but Anna and Doods, I absolutely loved your take on the last episode!

Kudos for your analysis on this episode as well! It's really making me look forward to watching it - not long left now!

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Wow, just caught the episode, and I must say, I really liked what I saw! I don't think it beat yesterday's episode though, and part of that is down to some of the dialogue, which felt kind of forced. Especially during the confrontation scene, when he started disbelieving her and went back to ASR mode - it wasn't so much that he didn't believe her that was the problem, but I felt his reaction was a bit too sudden; But the fleeting expressions during that scene were SUPERB, from both Sanaya and Arnav. You could see that he so badly wanted to believe her, and she so badly wanted for him to believe her! But I guess the track is gearing towards pushing the boundaries with regards to their trust for one another, and this I'm fine with, as trust has been a major barrier between their relationship from day dot, but more so from Arnav's end!

But It was pretty evident that they want to prolong the misunderstanding, which is why I couldn't quite appreciate nor understand Khushi's decision to go to Shyam! In fact I was hoping they would increase the bonding between Khushi and Payal, but it seems Khushi is adamant to go it alone! Ah well, let's see where her decision takes her. But one thing I did like about the scene was her fighting spirit and the way in which she confronted Shyam. That made a real difference. I'm just a bit weary about where they are going to take it after today's episode. But again, we'll have to see.

I said the following about yesterday's episode:

And how captivating was the rooftop scene!? It completely erased all my memories of the previous scenes when Khushi was hell bent on jumping off the building. Not only was it beautifully shot, but Sanaya did full justice to her role as Khushi, the tears she shed in isolation were heartbreaking ' it felt as if she was sharing all her pain with the audience, and only the audience. And I think Doods said it really well, the fact that her show of happiness is a way of closing herself off from Arnav. That fact that she's chosen to shut down any emotions of pain, especially in front of Arnav, speaks volumes about her current relationship with Arnav. And it is this barrier which will piss Arnav off, lol and how I enjoy watching an aggravated Arnav. It's clear that her silence frustrates him, as does her constant chatter!

It was great how she brought this to Garima's attention, because not only does it highlight his growing frustrations, but also the fact that he's losing control of the very relationship he once held reign of. The fact that she refuses to open up her innermost feelings to him means the ball is in her court, and ultimately his 6th month marriage with Khushi is not only a farce but also devoid of the real Khushi. His frustrations stem from his inability to understand Khushi, and a part of him knows this, which is why he questions "Kis mitti ki bani hein yein".

Much kudos to the CVs/writers for giving such intense filled dialogues; each and every one of them was significant, and laden with emotions. And of course, it was the delivery of dialogue which created most impact, and how I loved it! The current tandem between Arnav and Khushi is phenomenal. Dialogues which one normally hopes to hear from our distraught heroines were actually voiced out loud by Khushi and with full effect! Her "ghatiya soch" line really hit home where it hurt, and rightfully so! And the guilt/pain/confusion/trepidation which was made visible for a split second in Arnav's eyes made it even more epic. In his case, the truth is going to hurt, especially when it comes back to bite him in the a**!

And I think this episode confirmed for me just how much of a climb Arnav still has left with regards to trusting Khushi. Frankly, I wasn't surprised with the way he reacted to Khushi's unveiling of the truth (in fact I was quite glad to see that side of him return!), because even though what he said was quite harsh and pretty much below the belt, it is a side of Arnav that we expect, and have come to accept, albeit begrudgingly. After all, change is inevitable, and when he does change his attitude, that in itself will be another highlight to the show! What's worth mentioning though is Khushi's reaction to his hostile attitude, because it felt as if a part of her wasn't too surprised either! Upset, yes, of course, but surprised, no. And why would she be, she's been battling with this side of Arnav since day one. Sure, she may not understand him completely, but I reckon she knows him a lot more than he knows himself! And that's also where part of the problem lies. I was a bit put off by some of the posts on this forum with regards to Khushi's character, and how she's wholly to blame this time if he doesn't believe her, etc etc.

But I'd like to think otherwise. In fact, this is the wisest, and bravest I've seen Khushi for quite some time! Her revelation of the truth was perfect; in fact, I felt it left no room for any doubt, that's how honest and heartfelt it came across. It's the kind of confession you actually hope to hear from main leads stuck in misunderstanding - that's how good I felt it was!

But it is the flashing image in HIS mind that prevents him from seeing/accepting the truth for what it is. During the scene Khushi clearly owns up to the fact that she has no idea what is going through his head, as she's unable to understand the impact her being with Shyam had on him that day. However, I think that's down to her inability to see the extent of his love for her, which he too refuses to acknowledge! But it's Khushi's final line of the confrontation that really stood out for me, the fact that no matter what she tells him, he will only believe what he wants to believe. The problem isn't with Khushi, it's with his own lack of faith. For reasons unknown, he's both afraid and in denial of the actual truth. He will only see what he wants to see, hear what he wants to hear, and do what he wants to do. Yes, as a character, he's flawed, but that's why we love him! It maybe disheartening for Khushi, but this is clearly something she understands about his character. Even whilst telling him this truth about his own character, he turns his back on her, which just proves he will believe only what he wants to believe. And what's great about this is that Khushi has accepted this, which is why she will now do what she needs to do in order for the truth to reach him - it's this fighting spirit in Khushi that I am most looking forward to! Let the games begin!

Finally, I look forward to everybody's input, Tanthya, Doods, Sea.Nymph (aka Nia.D?), and all the other regulars at IP Redux who always nail each and every point with their keen analysis and eye for detail; kudos to you all!

Edited by namedx - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: prathikri

Anna loved your post

and this is for you for dedicating the 1st part to ASR 🤗 🤗


Thank you jaana!! 🤗

I had it in my mind from long back! Because I see every one question why Arnav did not trust Khushi - but everyone forgets Shyam and Arnav's equation here and how Shyam's reality has shattered his trust level to grounds!

Shyam - 2 years and Khushi - 9 months - how will he get that trust on her tell me!?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I loved the episode just for the fact that finally the truth is out but a still vital compnent is missing - Shyam's version of the truth, yes the trust is lacking on both sides & believing the fighter Khushi is I am so happy for her, she might make mistakes agn yet somewhere with the attachment Arnav has with her, they gonna throw shyam out. for the first time I saw a Hope for the two of them,
When the confrontation happened, yesterday I had thought Khushi will not speak, bcz of her dignified silence yet she opened it to him, uttered each & every thruth admitted her folly in not confiding him. Arnav ws so vulnerable here, how much & how he wanted to believe her, for a moment when he hears the truth, we saw a breath of relief but than comes the memory of that cruel night & shatters everything, "Agar maine us raat tumse pucha hota to kya tum muje sab bata deti" He has seen Khushi always witty & able to mould situations to her benefit those memories stop him from believing, how he asks " if that is the case than why havent u told to truth to anyone, why havent u shouted on the top of voice to bring out the truth" I really felt for him at this moment. how he is in love with her, how he wants to be proven wrong & defeated by her, how he says " Kyun Khushi Kyun jo hamesha itni bolti rahti aaj chup kaise rah sakti ho, tum jiske pas har sawal ka jawab hota hai aaj kuch bol kyun nahi rahi", n how she realises the magnitude of folly she has committed.
"Chap gaya hai wo Pal mere dimag me jab, maine tumhe aur usee" how hurt he feels here that he cant even utter tha other guys name in the same breath as Khushi,
again I realised Khushi needs to grow up in some instance & understand Arnav---- the trust which is difficult for him can be gained by one thing, by earning it,,,,,, there is no other way for her but to earn it than only she can win him, which she has to introinspect.
Trust is important, but it is also dangerous. It is important because it allows us to form relationships with others and to depend on others'for love, for advice, for help with our beliefs, for there is no guarantee in life that the other person will not harm us if we had any garuntees we would have no need to trust ppl .but it becomes dangerous when we risk our self-respect, love & our beliefs to one person & its loss can change our prespectives & leave us shattered by the betrayal of our trust. this is the very reason for Khushi to realise that her vision is not the same as Arnav, Arnav is hard & he needs hard fact to corece the blame from her to shyam; as only time is favoring Shyam's claim vis a vi her.
Shyam has been epitome of fairness to the Raizada's & Arnav hs always found faults with Khushi. yet when they reach RM she behaves so normally & the agn the much needed conforntation for Khushi to understand. Shyam agn was fab here wedging the way between these two, he has a card up his sleeve he knows both of them dont trust each other.
I wish for once both of these give a chance to each other with blank view abt that night, they gonna find a way to reach other.
Khushi's helpness & mnolouge were good but I fail to understand why cant she use her brains when Arnav is arnd, she could hv told him very clrly that he doesnt let the truth abt their marriage to the guptas & she will take him to them for testimnoy but agn that might put the Guptas in wrong light thats why bcz its a story what remains to be found. but her reaching to shyam is her mistake, I am hoping she keeps her alertness her & doesnt get what shyam wants.
All in all a lovely episode, brilliant acting by BS & SI they were bang on today⭐️⭐️
Tight scrpt & great dialouges all in all for me it was 8/10 episode.
Edited by IPKKNDFAN29 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Edited and updated page 1 - NOW off to sleep!! ;)

Gnight REDUX! :)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Anna--

Hola people!! 🤗


Again what a fantabulous episode!! ⭐️My My - what a come back of intensity and drama in the past two days. Brilliantly done creatives - not only that congo shongo to all Reduxians for all present here are doing a Fab job and when the episode is Fab - everyone's analysis and write-ups are also one notch up!! 😳 👏


Before I start my analysis today ; I really wanted to shed some light on Arnav and on his trust issues - on why trusting someone does not come easily to him.


Who is Arnav!? Arnav is a tormented soul who still let's his past experiences define his life. His lack of the ability to trust anyone is not new - but it is what forms him. His trust was shattered by his very own uncle when he and Anjali were thrown out of their uncle's house at a very young age and were left to fend for themselves. More so, from whatever I understand its not been very easy for him to forgive his father for something that he had done. We have seen that pain in his eyes when Nani compares Arnav to his father. So trust is something that has been lacking in him not from now but since he has fended for himself and he has learnt to trust himself first and then others.


Now comes what he saw on the terrace - He saw Shyam his brother in law hugging the girl he had fallen in love with. What broke him that day!? What shattered him completely that day!? No - his love for Khushi did not shatter much than his relationship with Shyam broke down into million pieces. Shyam was not just Arnav's brother in law - Shyam was a father Arnav never had, he was the man Arnav trusted, relied upon, took suggestions from, listened to and looked upto and that night on the terrace - everything that he had trusted was broken like a mirror into shattering pieces. His belief in love, relationships had broken down. And what added to it was that it was Khushi who was the one breaking it. Shyam the person who he had trusted for 2 years had broken his trust - his di's trust who loved him blindly - where would that trust come for the girl who he had known for 9 months and only 3 months of understanding!? It would not and It could not. Khushi had done nothing to earn his trust persay - and as long as the trust was not earned - why will he want to believe her!? He will believe what he sees and at this moment all he can see is Shyam and Khushi in an embrace and Khushi's haunting words.


Now when I guess that I have explained why its hard for Arnav to believe and trust anyone - I will move onto the episode which was good and again Barun, Sanaya and Abhaas were brilliant! 👏👏 Sanaya shines in emotional scenes and that is where and how I would like to see her.


The confrontation continues - All loops of communication opens


The road scene from yesterday continues - Khushi keeps screaming at Arnav for his distrust in her and stops Arnav from saying anything. She asks him the valid question that - 'Why did you not ask me when you married me for 6 months!?' - Arnav has no answer and that is because he has not come in terms with the realization himself that he is scared to admit that she could love another and it would hurt him. Before he can answer she begins her story of Shyam and his cheating everyone in her family as well. Arnav looks at her in belief and connecting everything in his mind - It was there in his face that he wanted to believe her and understand her. Barun Sobti rocked with the expressions here. She finishes her story off and looks at him with hope that he would have understood her. His face lightens up for a moment when he hears her say that Shyam does not mean anything to her - that she hates him more than anything else - that she would rather die than see her name associated with him and that is where Arnav wants to believe her.


He wants to keep that hope alive - he wants to believe her and that is why he wants to understand why she did not feel the need to express the truth. He makes her realize that if she knew the truth then why did she not tell him or anyone - why did she let Anjali live a lie in the name of marriage - WHY!? This is where we see Khushi lower her eyes with guilt - she has understood that she should have told the truth and maybe this all would have saved her - but yet she fights back when he cups her face asking the same question back again.


She tells him that she did it for his di - she did it for her life - to keep her faith alive. Arnav does not believe her and tells her what He saw on the terrace. I do not think Khushi has connected it - but she could understand his pain when he said that - he has seen her and him in an embrace asking her to leave his di and that is a memory etched in his heart and mind that refuses to acknowledge any sorry and any story that she may tell him. He has seen it all with his own eyes and its like a black patch in his heart that he cannot forget and ignore. He will only believe what he will see - no stories from her will change his thought and nor will he let anything happen to Anjali. He has the last word and leaves in finality leaving Khushi shattered.



Anna... Nicely written...
I think your Arnav completely stole the show for me today! He is a damn nasty fella i tell you.😆...Reverse Psychology????? denial of truth? What all traits he carry🤣

He believes her damn it. He (subconsciously!) clings on to every every word she said.It is a breather for him! 😆....You know I never loved his character this much before. He believes her to the core, the realization has hit him hard and don't forget his dialogue.. "It has stuck to my dimag...the hug"...OH MY OH MY... he is miffed...roota hai bitwa...❤️... Now KKG, you have to woo him...😉


Today my fav character goes to one and only one Arnav..👏. You surprised me today!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nia.D



Skepticism? No... Mistrust? Naah... Hatred? Uh-huh... Annoyance? Pass... Disbelief? Nope... Realization that she's telling the truth?
BINGO!


Updating...


Niaaa.. love love...❤️
It clicked you also? It is ASR, and expect the ulta... So he so believes her. isn't it? He is miffed ...he is angry with her for the lack of trust and hiding such a huge thing with him!!!! He sooo soo believes her... If only she could see the real arnav!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sree07


Niaaa.. love love...❤️
It clicked you also? It is ASR, and expect the ulta... So he so believes her. isn't it? He is miffed ...he is angry with her for the lack of trust and hiding such a huge thing with him!!!! He sooo soo believes her... If only she could see the real arnav!

He is super pissed right now!!! But the last thing he said will come back to bite him so hard.. it was uncalled for.. She will walk out and she will give this back to him...temper I tell you..
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Originally posted by: mommamia

He is super pissed right now!!! But the last thing he said will come back to bite him so hard.. it was uncalled for.. She will walk out and she will give this back to him...temper I tell you..


haaa there goes the beauty of the writer and CVs. Love them.
He knows that she is not a gold digger.! His taunts were as always to protect his weak heart! He was on the verge of exposing himself and his wound to her and he masked it by the taunt. LOVE LOVE ...

Isn't it the real ASR over whom the entire forum went oaa la la..?😆

Reverse physiology thing? or habit to deny the truth first?🤣


He is angry with her... thats it... there is no question of believing or not believing... it is about khushi and arnav. No shyam... no one can come between them.

Anyway I am impressed with him today..😉
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