Crooner 50.2:Uttar Paschim:Diminishing Arnav rekha

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Cyberpsychooo

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Yeah yeah, 1st... Ab pehle araam se par loon! 😆

Ok...

really nice vm!

I didnt think once about aakash paayal separation coz of the truth coming out... This si totally new aspext to me, but interessting... I thought, bubbly will more help paayal getting closer to maamiji...

And to the north west interpretation, wow... I didnt even thaught, that this phrase has a deeper meaning, thx for that!

I always love ur crooners! 👏

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amisuv

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Posted: 13 years ago

Priya, thanks fr this Sunday Crooner 😃 An amazing quote with heavy-duty interpretations 👍🏼

Priya, ur analysis is perfect 👏 👏 U r so right abt the loaded episodes & layered screenplay. The CVs r too smart, they will not spoon-feed the audience. And for us, the decoding & analysis becomes even more interesting.

" As you sow so shall you reap " Applies to both Arnav & Khushi. Whether good or bad deeds, the have to pay in kind. Khushi, with her irritating antics, is constantly pushing Arnav to the edge. He has been patient till now, but for how long? Arnav, means the ocean. It is the calm before the storm. When he will unleash his anger, Khushi will be hit hard.

The Arnav-rekha...Priya, the Ramayan connection very evident ( also want to mention the original title here 'Vaidehi', another name for Sita). Luved ur subtext here. Khushi declared that she will not cross the rekha knowingly, but fell into the trap of the evil Shyam. Arnav loves her, needs her but the misunderstanding has cluttered his mind. He exercises restraint & doesnt cross the barrier, while hurting himself in the process.

Priya, ur analysis of the side & direction scene is Brilliant. The pigeon reference, them being the messenger birds 👍🏼 The SR confrontation pics...

The North- direction of the Pole star, the fixed point in the sky which denotes stability & security, wisdom & thought. Arnav, the pillar of his family & they look up to him for everything in life. Be it Anjali, Aakash or Maami.

The West- governed by God of water, emotions & spirit. Khushi, the Dil in the relationship, completely driven by emotions.

The North West direction- impacts the interpersonal relationships. Meaning the truth of Arnav-Khushi marriage & the impending revelation of Shyam will wreak havoc on both the families.

Arnav, if we go by the true meaning here, his destiny is to be the facilitator & peacemaker. He will be the one who will bring out the truth in front of everyone & like the North remove the insecurities in various relationships.

Khushi, will channel all her energy & lead Arnav towards the truth.

Priya, I luved the glass reflection pic of the Sangeet day here 😊

The filegate- u rightly said it may turn out to be Shyam's trump card & he may manipulate both Arnav & Khushi here.

Bubbly-Payal relation...The other day when Bubbly asked for Maami's help, Maami didnt bother. So today when Maami asks Bubbly to help her select nail colour, Bubbly shows her lack of interest. She may have rejected Payal's affection here but she didnt ignore the doll. So there is hope that she will be bridge the gap between Payal & Aakash when the separation haapens.

Sorry buddies, dont know if I made any sense here 😉

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Nandalala

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Posted: 13 years ago

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"Important events - whether serious, happy or unfortunate - do not change a man's soul, they merely bring it into relief, just as a strong gust of wind reveals the true shape of a tree when it blows off all its leaves. Such events highlight what is hidden in the shadows, they nudge the spirit towards a place where it can flourish."

-Irene Nemirovsky

'The Tale of Darkness Into Light'

Priya, I am so excited and grateful you decided to breakdown Friday episode into two parts!!! To say I am in agreement with you would be a gross understatement!! You have OUTDONE yourself!!!👏 You've chosen the best quote to highlight essentially what the CVs have mapped out for us...Even under the most unfavorable conditions, hope persists; that is what motivates the gardner to tend to his garden. We as the audience have weathered through the storm...now, we wait to see the light. Works for ArHi too, in what they've gone through together! The bedroom scene was probably one of the most important scenes we've seen on the show, for various reasons. As always, you've done a brilliant job in highlighting the relevance Khushi's words, I would like to elaborate further on this.

The Winds of Change: The minute I heard Khushi make a reference to Uttar Paschim, two things came to mind. Arnav is the North...the fundamental direction...where she belongs, where she is grounded! She is the West...where the sun sets...when the misunderstanding unfolds, when the the guilty will be redeemed, it will happen where she is...I also thought of Vaayu or the Hindu God of Wind who defines Uttar Paschim, North-West in the Vaastu tradition. His blessing is considered the most potent inVaastu because it allows for a shift, it allows for movement--for people to step into something better, upwards, in another direction. To new beginnings! All of this is much needed for ArHi! My quote today pretty much spells what has happened. As we have discussed, the CVs are making sure the dots are connected. While Arnav & Khushi have been hurt from their silences, the truth will come as a gust of wind ultimately bringing relief to both of them. The change will not happen overnight, but the wind is blowing in the right direction!😊

The Lines Of Demarcation: Let me first give a chronological order to the Arnav Rekha. The Arnav-Rekha was drawn that day on the terrace! It was delineated by Arnav on several fronts: to protect his sister, to keep himself from the one who belonged to another, and on a subliminal level, to protect Khushi from Shyam (here's the paradox at play again!) On Friday, he defined the line. A physical demarcation because of their proximity to each other. If we look carefully at the episode, true to his mind, he never crossed over!

Khushi's words as you beautifully referenced above made it clear that she would never cross the line for anyone...BUT HIM! For her, the line was always clear! She is his...She is his wife--she has no qualms in this regard, and it showed! If Khushi had any uneasiness, or lack of conviction in her marriage, her eyes would never have closed that night, and she would have stayed on her side of the bed. Also, if we look at the Rekha in context to what she said the morning after "aapko kaise pata, hum kabhi saath mein ek bistar pe soye nahi" we can see that she notices the void in their relationship, her status as his wife is not complete. She wants it to be fulfilled! Furthermore, we've seen the reference to "crossing the line" several times on the show...Arnav forcing Khushi into marriage was crossing the line, Khushi's continuing antics to break Arnav was crossing the line, but then we also saw moments where the crossover was of a different kind--for example, Khushi taking care of him when he was sick, Arnav agreeing to come to the Guptas. So yes, the line has started to blur...Friday's episode highlighted all these changes--the metamorphosis-- beautifully!

Forgetting Innocence: I completely agree with your take on the Bubbly-Payal-Mummy equation. An adoptive process is always work in progress; so is this track!😊 Orphans hold a dear place in my heart, and on Friday, I finally got the relevance of introducing Bubbly on the show. Her precociousness, a wiseness beyond her years, are all in keeping with the greatest loss she's had to bear at such a young age. Her words were not lost on Payal or on us! Payal is bhabhi, not her mother...Yes, she has accepted Aakash as a father figure in her life because she has complete trust in him...While fate has not been kind to her, Aakash has always been! And now, Payal now holds a place in Aakash's heart. What we understood as Bubby's jealousy is apprehension, the fear that he too will leave her because now someone else has come into his life. Eventually, Payal will be important to Bubbly, but nurturing this kind of a relationship takes time. I also couldn't help but think back to a younger ASR; the loss of innocence in those eyes...I saw it in Bubbly, too...I loved how you connected Bubbly to Arnav...She does understand him; his being alone. She wanted to show him she cared (just as ASR did when he told her to go to sleep that night when he was unwell!) But it will be Khushi who will allow Bubbly to finally come out of her shell and understand Payal. Payal knows the pain of the loss, but she has not lived it like Khushi has (here I am assuming only Khushi was adopted, not Payal!) Bubbly will be critical in highlighting the trust factor on several fronts. I am very, very curious to see what the Khushi-Bubbly-Arnav equation looks like.

You know I am so looking forward to how the CVs play the cards ahead...The Crooner will be an integral part of this...no doubt there at all!!! Btw, wasn't Madhuri's movie Uttar Dakshin?😆 And the VM...ahhh...what can I say...PERFECT LYRICS!!! "Iss pyaar mein sahi aur galat ka koi matlab nahin...bas ek cheez ka matlab hai...ke mein hamesha...hamesha..." "Loh shuru ab Chahaton ka Silsila hoh raha hai...Mit rahi hain dooriyan aur faasla kho raha hai...Shabd ghum...arth, matlab...chupke se kho raha hai..." And then the angst...and the words from Fanaa...The scenes were not just for our enjoyment...you just connected the dots, hun...WELL DONE!!!👏

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shagun

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Posted: 13 years ago

awesum priya,

u have put it so right...i loved the direction meanings n its symbolism in arhi life...i always thought bubbly to be matured because of the circumstances...n u have analysed bubbly-payal's equation really well...but just want to ask that why do u think arnav will support payal along with bubbly if whenever there is a seperation track for payash?

awesum work...n thanks for pm😃

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jakhushi

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I meant to update the reserved post much earlier... but I was being lazzzyyy. Caught up with episode only today and Ohhh MY MY😳😳.

Ok..1st on the Uttar - Paschim point - My 1st reaction, was she supposed to say Dakshin, to imply ther are opposite! But obvioulsy it would be too simple. Naah... it had to be deeper, my thoughts did go to the North - west corner concept in Feng shui... but Priya... your analysis was incredible!!! As usual you brought out aspects that my little brain couldnt even think of initially. That was brilliant girl... I am completely convinced😊.

As for Arnav Rekha - yes Khushi knows very well the limits that are laid out for her, not just as his wife.. even before when her heart would go Dhak dhak for him. Even while she danced with NK, she was extremely uncomfortable with NK placing his hands on her waist... while she never bat eyelid when Arnav touched her numerous times (well almost). That was Arnav Rekha at play too... Khushi will never cross this boundary and even today she is bound to him and stays in the marriage as a reverence to the same Rekha. It stopped being about her Jiji's wedding long back!

Payal Babli scene - Maybe Babli reminds Payal of another 8 year old orphan that had come to their doorstep many years ago and the fact Akash feels very strongly about her, hence her efforts with the child. But somehow my heart has not warmed upto this track. I am not writing it off or anything... just that it needs to be something awesome for it to click with me. I cant help it.. I tried😕... but ki paka bacchaa.. baba re baba!!! So for now... I will just trust your interpretations and wait for the story to unfold.

I missed commenting on the Friday crooner Priya as I was traveling and got back today... so I cant help but indulge in a little Gush fest on something that you have already covered in your 50th Crooner! Do bear with me...😳

It's the Akhara scene that completely got me ... and no it is NOT about the white vest, the biceps, the pout or wet locks. Though they helped... a lottt😉

But let me start from the beginning of the scene...

Khushi starts with her age old challenge game... what blew me away was the way he cocks his head and then very quitely takes up the challenge. Going on to prove what a master he is at the game. And here the CV's began their perfect choreography.

1st Khushi is just mesmerized, her eyes only drinking him in. Then mid way, she notices the admiration reflected in the other men of the akhara. Dont we all like to see a reaffirmation of our respect and admiration for our beloved amongst others. Khushi exbhited the same syptom of being in love.

But when Arnav Singh Raizada came back and held the eyes of Khushi with his steely ones and showed her that he couldnt hold the heavy contraption that she had challenged him with... he just proved to her who is still in control. Yes he might indulge her antics andput up with her swami... but only because at some level, he chose to. Probably because it made her happy. But when pushed before an audience, he will not hestitate to prove to her who is the Man. A power that is seductively silky and such an incredible expression of a mind game. To me... that mind game is what makes this man a master seducer... after all it's the mind that gets Turned On 1st...

And at that moment, I was sucked into the vortex of the whirlpool called Arnav Singh Raizada😍.

And like I said before... the wet hair... helped significantly😛... but the power of that mind... Sighhh☺️

(okaay that was veryyy fan girlish I knowww😳😳)

There is one thing that bothers me though... how the CVs keep Khushi yo-yo-ing between a moment of sheer adulation and the next moment plan something to plague him with. I love that girl... and willing to jump at her defence at the slightest provocation ... but i just dont get this aspect that CVs keep throwing at us😕. Unless they are trying to potray how much ASR has influenced her... and now she blows Hot & Cold with aplomb... just like him!!!!

Sorry about the really long post and going on a slight tangent on your post Priya... but you are a sweetheart so I am sure you will not curse me😉

Will try my best and catch you guys tomorrow...

Have great week Everyone...

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honeypriya

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Cyberpsychooo
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Yeah yeah, 1st... Ab pehle araam se par loon! 😆

Ok...

really nice vm!

I didnt think once about aakash paayal separation coz of the truth coming out... This si totally new aspext to me, but interessting... I thought, bubbly will more help paayal getting closer to maamiji...

And to the north west interpretation, wow... I didnt even thaught, that this phrase has a deeper meaning, thx for that!

I always love ur crooners! 👏

Thanksss dear 😊

Everything in IPK world has deeper meaning, trust me 😉

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Shruti

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Posted: 13 years ago

awesome crooner priya great VM too accompany

and obviously the pics but plzz put the coloured ones they are more beautiful than the black n white ones

anyways it was just a suggestion

loved the analysis on bubbly and obviously she will be matured given her circumstances being orphaned at a young age n staying in hostel

we all knw from spoilers that bubbly will do something which will cause probs in payash marriage but then i agree that arnav n khushi will obviously be on payals side as bcoz payal is khushi's sister n arnav more or less knows abt payal so whatever may be the reason he will support her

great crooner hope u have many more to come

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Cyberpsychooo

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: honeypriya

Thanksss dear 😊

Everything in IPK world has deeper meaning, trust me 😉

Since ive joined IF i know this... Is se pehle never thaught about that! I am not gud at all findings these meanings, but us ke liye aap log jo hain! Thx!

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Newbiesoapfan

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Posted: 13 years ago

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Thanks Priya for the Sunday treat again!

I think you have decoded the North-west thing well... looks as if it will hit and blow away both Khushi and Arnav or atleast Arnav's misconceptions ( I am assuming based on the spoilers that he will tell Khushi about the Shyam angle --- not sure in what detail) and she responds...or her family does. Again , telling him of the fiance angle will surely not clear the air but atleast set his brain cells working ( hopefully)!

Now if the family does intervene , all of them will be tarred in the same brush including Payal , so what happens then ? Arnav cannot throw out both Khushi and Payal ...so i guess Khushi will go back to RM.

If the family does not intervene , she may stay back at GH... but she will have to go back to RM to prove her innocence... she will come back after 6 months.

So I stick with her going back to RM ... there is no other go!

She is now aware of the Shyam angle and will atleast try to put up a better fight with him and stay out of his way...so that is a positive development... hope that her OTT ness will go away as she has discovered the truth she was after... I want a fighting and mature Khushi to come back !

Looks like the ME is postponed , so the truth could be out next week or the week after !

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