DOTW:Is this love or mutilation of love?

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Basing on the current storyline, I came up with this topic as this week's DOTW.

I want us to discuss the phenomenon of Love. What is love?... What does it mean to you as a person. I for one, always had a strong mindset about love.

It included passion, devotion, loyalty, trust, sacrifice.. and most of all the 'Feelings of warmth and tenderness' that are a part of the package. but never at the expense of ones loved ones. Even if the ones getting hurt are our loved ones, there seems to be some solid logical reason/ stand that a lover takes before taking the plunge of hurting ones family.

1. Here in DEK, our protagonist Monia/ Manyata is all but the above mentioned points. She is everything that our traditional version of love isn't. She doesn't even seem to have the respect for the nobility of the word "Love", the way she's hell bent on trying to get Akash back instead of even thinking about the honour of her family. Akash looks more like her obsession, a craving/ addiction that is ruining her life... but thats just my standpoint. I would like to hear yours. Our other leads Uday, Akash, and Jay have their own philosophy of love as well.

2. Uday loved Manyata and instead of trying to win her heart by his love, he preferred to use his calculative mind to separate Manyata from Akash and in turn expanding the distance between him and his lady love. He does not understand that love is done by one's heart and not by the brain. He needs to let his heart rule over him while dealing with Manyata. So, Uday's philosophy is love comes out as incomplete and one with a huge margin of trial and error. He also badly beat up Akash with a hockey stick while Akash was weapon less... is that manly/ right of our Jaigarh ka sher?

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With Jay, I don't even think she seriously loves Uday. She was dumped on her engagement day and can't get over this fact, along with the reality that Uday chose to love the wild Manyata instead of a beautiful and cultured girl like her. Also, to me it looks like she also wants to be the Maharani of Jaigarh... and this is another motivation for her to seek him. She is now blackmailing him for try to get back in his life... Is this also love???

4. Akash lastly claims to love Monia, but does not realize that she is a princess after all, and she can't be a wild yet naive Monia forever. He wants her to remain as she is and does not want any growth in her character. He does not understand her stature in the society and the influence of her title. He claims to trust Monia yet picks up fights with Udaybeer... when he should only be concerned with Monia and her feelings for him. If she truly loves him, then he shouldn't be afraid of anybody's planning and manipulations. Doesn't love teach one to unconditionally trust their lover?...

Everybody has their own definition of love and are hell bent on justifying it instead of looking at the other person's POV. The Versions of love of either of the main characters seems out of proportion?.. So my question is... Is this really love?.. Any of this?





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Posted: 13 years ago
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Guys pleeejjj give your replies too na... I wanna hear your point of view on love and the current scenario
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I've never posted in a DOTW thread, but there's a first time for everything.

When I think of love sonnet 43 (by Elizabeth Browning) comes to mind:

How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
I love thee to the depth and breadth and height
My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight
For the ends of Being and ideal Grace.
I love thee to the level of everyday's
Most quiet need, by sun and candle-light.
I love thee freely, as men strive for Right;
I love thee purely, as they turn from Praise.
I love thee with the passion put to use
In my old griefs, and with my childhood's faith.
I love thee with a love I seemed to lose
With my lost saints!---I love thee with the breath,
Smiles, tears, of all my life!---and, if God choose,
I shall but love thee better after death.


(copied from http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~keith/poems/count.html)

I have always found it chilling that someone could love this purely, this deeply without expecting anything but the joy of love. Loving every single piece of a person, not wanting them to change, but accepting that change if they ever did (this is my interpretation so not everyone might agree with me). The poem speaks about how much she trusts him, even though she doesn't know if their love will work out or if they will ever have their happy ending, she's willing to reach out to him, to the unknown. All she knows forsure is come what may her love will stand by her, be there when she needs him and that is all she wants. And if death would come and tear her love and her apart, she would continue to love him, nothing, even death could stop her from loving him.

Now coming back to the topic (sorry fro going off topic) I'll go through all the characters in order:
1. M: On the surface some may think that she is displaying all the feelings that Browning has described in her sonnet, but I don't feel this is true. For some reason her love, if we can even call it that, seems flat. Somewhere I feel that M has not experienced the deepth or even scratched the surface of the love that Browning has so beautifully described. M is not at peace when in love, nor is she patient. I don't feel like her "being in love" has filled her with the joy Browning had experienced. I think this has more to do with the fact that maybe M isn't in love with Akash, she just wants to feel the type of love that Browning has. Furthermore, I feel that the main reason she's holding Akash in her vice-like grip is her unwillingness to comprehend that her life has changed, that everything she had ever known was a lie, a facade to keep her away from her home, her true identity. She doesn't understand how to deal with this, so she is doing whatever it takes to keep this illusion alive. In this process, she doesn't understand that she is causing harm to herself and her family. If she keeps this up she will not only burn herself, but everyone around her.

2. UV: I'm not going to lie, but I'm a little biased when it comes to UV. I want to say yes his love true and perfect, but is it really? I can only say its not perfect. I kind of feel that UV's feelings for M are pure and he may be on the edge of falling completely in love. But at the present state he is not completely there yet. There are scenes where you can see he is close to falling into the river of love (I know it's a chessy line, but I can't help it), when he admires her and looks upon her so fondly. But he needs to learn that his calculative ways will not get him far in the matters of the heart. He needs to listen to his heart, as hard as it is. He needs to in a way let M go and stand by her in tough situations and the nuisances of everyday life. Become that one person she needs in order to get through the day. Essentially he needs to take a leap of faith, he found her once when all hope was lost, he can find her again when she has become lost within herself. Most importantly, UV needs to show/make M understand that there is more to him then playing politics and manipulating others. i don't think she has truly seen that, part of her may still believe he's the devil in disguise.

3. J: She is most defintely not in love. She is not able to trust UV, she would never be able to let go of everything and stretch her hands into darkness believing that UV will grab hold of them. Nor is just content in loving UV, for her its more about getting UV. This has more to do with her wanting to be M. She's always lived in M's shadow, whether M was missing or found. Subconsciously she believes that by achieving UV she can have the life that was written for M. In her mind, she believes that M will never become the princess or queen that Devgarh needs, so the estate will automatically be handed to her in the end. The only thing left that is said to be M's is UV. She, like her sister is obsessed with the idea of having the person she thinks she loves. But once both sisters have the men they believe their in love with, will they be happy? I don't think so because I feel the issues both of them are facing don't have anything to do with love at all, it has more to do with what they feel like they need.

4. Akash: What can I say? My mine problem with him is his mind set that M needs to stay exactly they way she is. Naive, impulsive, loud-mouthed and crass. Why doesn't he want her to grow? Why doesn't he want her to evolve into the person she was destined to be? I understand that he loves her the way she is, that he is blinded and can find no fault in her behavior. And part of love is accepting the person you love the way they are. But that doesn't mean we should shun them if they want to change or don't stay the same way when we first met them. Change is inevitable, M is going to change whether she lives with Akash or with her family (usually one becomes wiser, but in M's case it's the reverse). Are you going to reject her, insult her when she does? Besides I don't think Akash really knows M. He has never seen her in her jungli form, which I think would actually turn him off her. I don't think Akash would ever accept if he sees her in her worst form. And in love, I feel its important to accept the other person completely. If you cannot how can that be love?

What does everyone else think?

This turned out longer than I expected. Hope I didn't put anyone to sleep




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