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Posted: 13 years ago
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Sorry for hurting you,

Infact I am your ardent admirer.

No hurt at all and you know I do like your posts too. Specially the funny ones.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I have read the above comments and reflected on their contents. I can see their points of view. I have also thought about this from Sandhya's perspective.

So what I understand from these comments is that although Sandhya has tried she is now come to a point where she is unsure as to whether (a) she will ever be able to become a wife in the traditional way because of her background and ambitions and (b) be fit into Bhabho's expectations of a wife in the Rathi family.

I cannot disagree that a girl of Sandhya's background who has led a sheltered life and focused mainly on a career (police officer) which is more masculine than feminine is not your average Indian middle class girl. Added to that the circumstances of the marriage- loss of parents, coercion and betrayal. Further thrown into a family like the Rathis, makes it even more difficult.

The whole problem is the inconsistency of the plot and the character. On Monday she is shown as the bold, barging modern woman standing up for dulhans and devising clever plots and then on Tuesday she is shown as a simpering bahu of the 18th century. On Wednesday they show that she loves Sooraj and considers him the most worthy person and then on Thursday they show her cringing at his touch. She cannot even bear to touch his clothes.

It is most bizarre.

Why could she not have been shown standing up to Bhabho to say (a) I am not the only who may need contraceptives or even to say that I am not going to discuss the issue of contraceptives in front of my father in law. Why can they not show her now being clever as she initially was such as when she refused to swear on Suraj to prove that she was not lying about her periods.

(b) Why could they not show her standing up for her own self respect in refusing to discuss her sex life.

No self respecting woman of Sandhya's background would stand for this and it weaves into the plot as well.

And if she is angry and upset by the whole issue, why can't she just say so.

We all know the matter have come to this because she was too scared to tell the family that she was educated. She hid this. And now for her to say, oh I am a very honest person who cannot bear the thought of living a lie is a load of nonsense.

The reality, in my view, is that the makers have become lazy and could not be bothered to make any effort. They are riding on the TRPS and seems that they are making this up as they go along.

Lastly, I do not think that a career minded woman is not inclined to love or care for their husbands. They do notice what the family likes to eat,how they take their tea. Specially in this story where she has taken up the challenge to prove to Bhabho that she will succeed if only to make her parents proud.

This has nothing to do with "I am a different kind of woman". The message is more "bugger off, I do not care for you and I couldn't be bothered about making any effort for you".

Surely a character like Sandhya who worked out that Sooraj purposely hurt himself to help her and she then took care of him, would notice his likes and dislikes. For heck sake, she knew how her father in law liked his meals.

No, this new babbling about, I do not know if he likes this veggie and I do not know whether I can be bothered is only a plot to prolong the agony for the audience and delay consummation.

No my dear friends, we are trying to defend the indefensible and psychoanalyzing a mound of cow dung.


Edited by Avidfan - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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The whole problem is the inconsistency of the plot and the character. On Monday she is shown as the bold, barging modern woman standing up for dulhans and devising clever plots and then on Tuesday she is shown as a simpering bahu of the 18th century. On Wednesday they show that she loves Sooraj and considers him the most worthy person and then on Thursday they show her cringing at his touch. She cannot even bear to touch his clothes.

No my dear friends, we are trying to defend the indefensible and psychoanalyzing a mound of cow dung.

Nicely put. Reminds me of fairy tales like Beauty and the Beast. Princess and the Frog.
Edited by rightnow - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I wont go in details but all shows becomes crap sooner or later ... why blame one there are many worse than this one

i will neither call the show senseless nor the comments made by other members , the scenes which had shown happens in life both in Urban and Rural areas, at times the tamasha is more than wat bhaboo makes , they are not just dishing garbage , they do try to bring the other emotions and at times spread the message

i know a gal like sandhya who was married but never had physical relation unless a yr , just like sandhya and suraj, but here unlike sandhya she took interest in him though she was not ready for marriage , gals still exist with that thinking , wats wrong ?

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Posted: 13 years ago
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@Juna04 I'm always glad to find your posts on this forum. Thank You. So like some of the others here and I, you too see how she has made an effort on Suraj's behalf. It's the constant conflict both within herself and without.that she is dealing with is what does not allow any semblance of a romantic love grow between her and Suraj. Hopefully they can maintain the audience without losing those who simply want to see the SurYa union without the positive message.


@Avidfan I believe Sandhya's manner of rejecting Suraj has incensed you so much that you may have overlooked a few things which may clarify her actions somewhat.

Remember this promo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFsA28QoMFE

I for one have found her character quite consistent in her actions to date.

As I said earlier, just because she respects him does not mean she is ready to consummate their relationship. She does not openly war with Bhabho as she does not want to hurt Suraj. The old Sandhya comes to the fore when she sees injustice for others. Yet she is still trying to maintain the respect for elders which was instilled in her by her parents whose memory she does not want to tarnish.

I wouldn't say that "she could not bear to touch his clothes". It was more the intimacy of getting his personals was what caused the hesitation. As for not touching, again it's the intimacy of the action which is what makes her jump back.

Now a couple of things to note with the contraceptive scene.

Her father in law was not in the room then.

Most importantly though, by staying silent on who else could be taking the pills, she saved Meenakshi from coming under fire. You saw that in the next scene where she tells Meenakshi this and in addition to that she was also protecting Meenakshi's right to choose. Remember, she told her that what a woman and her husband choose is a matter for them only.

When did she lie about her education?

She did not lie about being educated from the outset. She didn't even know this until lateron and by then she was already married. Her brother and the matchmaker are the ones for responsible for this one lie. Her actions apart from this have been honest all the while. She even told Suraj to tell Bhabho about the ceremony which she was blamed for simply due to Suraj's hesitation.

Just because she didn't notice that he doesn't really like cauliflower does not mean she does not care for him. That's pretty superficial as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure he didn't seem to be saying no to her serving it and in the normal course of things, he could've just as easily said no before Bhabho's interference without it being an issue. I think it was simply Bhabho, once again making a mountain out of a molehill in trying to show Sandhya up as an uncaring wife as opposed to the devoted rice-refusing wife next to her.

Having said that, she has understood him and helped him in more significant ways at other points in the story. Like when he was trying to fill the orders in for the sweets to get money for the family. She was there for him, both in getting Bhabho on board and building up his confidence. She accompanied him to the wedding and helped him cook the order there when she realised he was going to be all alone in this. These actions speak louder of her concern for Suraj as opposed to trying to remember or assimilate his likes and dislikes into her daily routine.

Heck I don't think she would've even been aware of him not liking anything she gave him as he is always too busy making puppy eyes at her to say no to anything she gives him.

As for Sandhya's current state of mind and her outburst at Suraj. I think luluzippadooo's post here sums it up.


Going back to the promo - Her friend says, after marriage the husbands dreams become yours. Sandhya questions, what if my husband makes my dreams his own? Suraj's dream is that the one he weds comes and maintains his family.

DABH has been showing this at every turn. A conundrum, family or career...why not both?

The arguments for why not both is being shown at the moment. There is much to be shown ahead to see if this is possible.

I'm pretty impressed with the makers of the show. Their need to convey a positive message and yet provide a story with entertainment has been quite successful as far as I can see. As Juna04 and others have said, it'll be difficult to satisfy all the viewers and maintain the story. We'll just have to wait and see.

P.S. And yes I saw you used to love the show, but that's why I said I hoped you find something good in it again to bring you back to watching it.


Edited by malmsey_79 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hi Avidfan..Seeing you after a long time here.

I was just curious to know that how do you know all these sequences in such detail if you had not watched the show for weeks? You must be following the WUs...

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Avid Fan's posts are more interesting than the serial itself. Intellectual.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: redruby

Hi Avidfan..Seeing you after a long time here.


I was just curious to know that how do you know all these sequences in such detail if you had not watched the show for weeks? You must be following the WUs...


I have been reading the synopsis. I stopped after they fell in bed episode till yesterday. My mom also told me about the contraceptive thing
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Going back to the subject of your post -

Is there any sense left in this show?


I say yes. Plenty, in fact, if you only cared enough to watch it again!


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